Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the side [or 
cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, M1, M42, 
M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms.

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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:32:58 +0000, alexd wrote:

> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the
> side [or cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in
> Yorkshire, M1, M42, M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use,
> eg telecoms.

  http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=purple+pipes+motorways




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"alexd"  wrote in message 
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> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the 
> side [or
> cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, M1, 
> M42,
> M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms.
>
http://www.highways.gov.uk/news/pressrelease.aspx?pressreleaseid=136596

"alexd"  wrote in message 
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> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the 
> side [or
> cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, M1, 
> M42,
> M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms.
>
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>


Found this on Google
http://www.johnstonestrade.com/media/18048/pipeline%20identification%20leaflet.pdf

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"David"  wrote in message 
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>
> "alexd"  wrote in message 
> news:2917246.0E7s5MMGUR@ale.cx...
>> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the 
>> side [or
>> cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, M1, 
>> M42,
>> M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms.
>>
>> -- 
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>> 21:30:03 up 14 days, 18:49,  4 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.16, 0.11
>> "Stupid is a condition. Ignorance is a choice" -- Wiley Miller
>>
>
>
> Found this on Google
> http://www.johnstonestrade.com/media/18048/pipeline%20identification%20leaflet.pdf
>

Can't be right surely

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> "David"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "alexd"  wrote in message 
>> news:2917246.0E7s5MMGUR@ale.cx...
>>> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the 
>>> side [or
>>> cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, 
>>> M1, M42,
>>> M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> <http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEsNpEaTm@ale.cx)
>>> 21:30:03 up 14 days, 18:49,  4 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.16, 0.11
>>> "Stupid is a condition. Ignorance is a choice" -- Wiley Miller
>>>
>>
>>
>> Found this on Google
>> http://www.johnstonestrade.com/media/18048/pipeline%20identification%20leaflet.pdf
>>
>
> Can't be right surely

No it can't.
That is for buildings, not motorways!

George

Wibble wrote:
> "alexd"  wrote in message 
> news:2917246.0E7s5MMGUR@ale.cx...
>> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the 
>> side [or cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, M1, 
>> M42, M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms.

"Fibre optic cabling is to be installed along the M62 between junctions 
22 and 26 from Monday 7 August. The cabling is part of a sophisticated 
new transmission system, which will provide drivers with a more reliable 
and informed journey."

And just what is all that new bandwidth to be used for ? Why no mention 
of video feeds from all the new cameras ??

On 01/11/09 21:32, alexd wrote:

> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the side [or
> cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, M1, M42,
> M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms

Apparently purple just signifies motorway

http://www.pavingexpert.com/ducting.htm#colours

"Andy Burns"  wrote in message 
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> On 01/11/09 21:32, alexd wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the 
>> side [or
>> cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, M1, 
>> M42,
>> M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms
>
> Apparently purple just signifies motorway
>
> http://www.pavingexpert.com/ducting.htm#colours

Thanks that clarifies from the link I quoted just being buildings.

Rather surprising some uses different.

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Gaius wrote:
> Wibble wrote:
>> "alexd"  wrote in message
>> news:2917246.0E7s5MMGUR@ale.cx...
>>> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by
>>> the side [or cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in
>>> Yorkshire, M1, M42, M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain
>>> use, eg telecoms.
>
> "Fibre optic cabling is to be installed along the M62 between
> junctions 22 and 26 from Monday 7 August. The cabling is part of a
> sophisticated new transmission system, which will provide drivers
> with a more reliable and informed journey."
>
> And just what is all that new bandwidth to be used for ? Why no
> mention of video feeds from all the new cameras ??

http://www.abd.org.uk/road_user_charging.htm

Pete Zahut wrote:
> Gaius wrote:
>> Wibble wrote:
>>> "alexd"  wrote in message
>>> news:2917246.0E7s5MMGUR@ale.cx...
>>>> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by
>>>> the side [or cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in
>>>> Yorkshire, M1, M42, M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain
>>>> use, eg telecoms.
>> "Fibre optic cabling is to be installed along the M62 between
>> junctions 22 and 26 from Monday 7 August. The cabling is part of a
>> sophisticated new transmission system, which will provide drivers
>> with a more reliable and informed journey."
>>
>> And just what is all that new bandwidth to be used for ? Why no
>> mention of video feeds from all the new cameras ??
> 
> http://www.abd.org.uk/road_user_charging.htm 

Good point. Also have a look at Project 
Indect:(http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/01/project-indect-set-to-monitor-europe-like-its-1984/).
In particular, note the reference to "Mobile object tracking". Don't 
bother about tinfoil hats. This is for real.

On Nov 2, 2:41 am, Andy Burns  wrote:
> On01/11/09 21:32, alexd wrote:
>
> > Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the side [or
> > cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, M1, M42,
> > M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms
>
> Apparently purple just signifies motorway

Apparently for fibre optic cabling to give us better traffic
information.
http://www.highways.gov.uk/news/pressrelease.aspx?pressreleaseid=136596

Gareth Tucker wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2:41 am, Andy Burns  wrote:
>> On01/11/09 21:32, alexd wrote:
>>
>>> Does anybody know what the purple pipes are that seem to be laid by the side [or
>>> cable tied to the barriers] of many motorways? Eg A1(M) in Yorkshire, M1, M42,
>>> M62, etc? I assume purple signifies a certain use, eg telecoms
>> Apparently purple just signifies motorway
> 
> Apparently for fibre optic cabling to give us better traffic
> information.
> http://www.highways.gov.uk/news/pressrelease.aspx?pressreleaseid=136596

Fibre optics = big bandwidth = real time video streams from cameras. 
Have you counted them recently ?

Gaius  wrote:
> Fibre optics = big bandwidth = real time video streams from cameras. 

A growing number of the roadside cameras are now using 3G for video
transmission. 2-3fps is perfectly acceptable, and it's much cheaper than
laying private infrastructure to provide cabled feeds.

Chris

Chris Davies wrote:
> Gaius  wrote:
>> Fibre optics = big bandwidth = real time video streams from cameras. 
> 
> A growing number of the roadside cameras are now using 3G for video
> transmission. 2-3fps is perfectly acceptable, and it's much cheaper than
> laying private infrastructure to provide cabled feeds.
> 
> Chris

OK - what's all the excess bandwith for ? Who has paid for it ?

(Hint - 3G may not have sufficient BW for multiple high resolution video 
streams).

Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom Job Justification Hearings, Gaius chose the tried 
and tested strategy of:

>>> Fibre optics = big bandwidth = real time video streams from cameras.
> OK - what's all the excess bandwith for ? Who has paid for it ?

Why the obsession with bandwidth? Had you considered that fibre is better for 
long runs than copper?

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Gaius  wrote:
> OK - what's all the excess bandwith for ? Who has paid for it ?

No idea.
Chris

Chris Davies wrote:

> Gaius  wrote:
>> OK - what's all the excess bandwith for ? Who has paid for it ?
> 
> No idea.
> Chris

If I think along the following lines, would I be unduly paranoid/cynical?

Highways Agency management to Treasury: We really, really need these 
cameras/signs/whatever and, by the way, we need to lay big purple pipes so 
we can connect them up. We know it's expensive but there's no other way...

Some years later, after a change of government:

Highways Agency management: I suppose we could come up with the readies for 
a management buyout of this privatised motorway. Mind you, it's never going 
to be a moneyspinner so we'd expect to get it cheaply...

6-12 months later after the deal is done:

British Highways owners: Oh look, big purple pipes! We can offer them to all 
and sundry for their backbone fibres and rake in lots of boodle. How come we 
never thought of that before?

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