Hi Group,

I am looking at installing a Panasonic KX-TE308 in our office. It has
three incoming lines and I only need to utilise 5 of the 8 extensions
this unit is capable of.

My question is, I notice looking at the manual that the unit has 8
modular extension sockets which I presume is designed to have the
panasonic telephones plugged directly into, what I want to do is
utilise our existing CAT5 infrastructure and setup a patch system just
like we do with out PC network.

So, is this possible with this unit? Can I fit another patch panel
into our datacab and  have the 5 extension cables terminated into this
new patch panel, or do I need a voice only patch panel?

I think the unit is using 8 RJ11 sockets so I guess I'd use cat 5 and
terminate the 5 of them with RJ11 ends then puch the other end of the
cable into the patch panel I fited....

Any info would be appreciated

Many thanks

Lee

On 18 May, 23:10, LeeBridgewater  wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> I am looking at installing a Panasonic KX-TE308 in our office. It has
> three incoming lines and I only need to utilise 5 of the 8 extensions
> this unit is capable of.
>
> My question is, I notice looking at the manual that the unit has 8
> modular extension sockets which I presume is designed to have the
> panasonic telephones plugged directly into, what I want to do is
> utilise our existing CAT5 infrastructure and setup a patch system just
> like we do with out PC network.
>
> So, is this possible with this unit? Can I fit another patch panel
> into our datacab and  have the 5 extension cables terminated into this
> new patch panel, or do I need a voice only patch panel?
>
> I think the unit is using 8 RJ11 sockets so I guess I'd use cat 5 and
> terminate the 5 of them with RJ11 ends then puch the other end of the
> cable into the patch panel I fited....
>
> Any info would be appreciated
>
> Many thanks
>
> Lee

Yes lee - This will definitely work. We have installed many of these
Panasonic systems on to CAT 5 cabling systems.
Regards
Steve
Green Telecom

Hi Steve, thanks for this.

So just terminate the ends of the RJ11 extension system leads into a
generic patch panel (I presume blue and orange pairs) then go from
their.

I checked out your web site Steve and I notice you install KXTDA 15's
- The reason I ask is that a business I support wants to utilise 2
incoming lines (via ISDN) and also have 3 IP phones at each of the
regional sales guys houses - wuold the KXTDA 15 do this? and are they
based on a similar installation method as above?

Thanks

Lee

LeeBridgewater was thinking very hard :
> Hi Steve, thanks for this.
>
> So just terminate the ends of the RJ11 extension system leads into a
> generic patch panel (I presume blue and orange pairs) then go from
> their.
>
> I checked out your web site Steve and I notice you install KXTDA 15's
> - The reason I ask is that a business I support wants to utilise 2
> incoming lines (via ISDN) and also have 3 IP phones at each of the
> regional sales guys houses - wuold the KXTDA 15 do this? and are they
> based on a similar installation method as above?
>
> Thanks

The 15 would do this, yes. However, the ports on the 15 are RJ45, not 
11/12; theoretically, even easier that the 308.

Jono, thanks for this...

I have seen some Pansonic units with multicore going direct into the
CCU then terminating onto a voice rail/patch panel in the data cab -
Is this still in existance today or do you have to use individual
RJ45's for each extension then terminate onto the patch panel? I guess
this is easier as most users I guess would just plug the RJ45 for each
extension into the relvent module on the structured cabling patch
panel... sorry if Im wrong.

Lee

LeeBridgewater explained on 19/05/2008 :
> Jono, thanks for this...
>
> I have seen some Pansonic units with multicore going direct into the
> CCU then terminating onto a voice rail/patch panel in the data cab -
> Is this still in existance today or do you have to use individual
> RJ45's for each extension then terminate onto the patch panel? I guess
> this is easier as most users I guess would just plug the RJ45 for each
> extension into the relvent module on the structured cabling patch
> panel... sorry if Im wrong.
>
> Lee

Well, the KXTDA100 and above would use a Telco (25 pair). The one you 
were asking about the KXTDA15 has, in its out-of-the-box configuration, 
4 physical extension ports - all of which are presented on RJ-45 
sockets.

Each extension port uses 2 pairs within the cable (Blues & Oranges, I 
believe.)

The Blue pair supports a single analogue extension.

The Orange pair supports a digital extension (each of which can support 
an additional digital phone plugged into the bottom of the phone in 
each port.)

You could plug 4 patch leads into 4 structured cabling patch panel 
sockets. At the other end, you could plug in 4 analogue phones & 
nothing else. Or you could plug in 4 of the 24 button digital phones. 
At the bottom of each are 1 analogue socket and a digital socket - 
giving you another 8 extensions.....or you could break out the blues at 
the voice patch panel and send them to diffrent outlets

As you stated, there is nothing to stop you plugging the patch lead 
directly into the structured cabling patch panel & not having a voice 
patch panel, however, depending upon where you want to present the 
analogue ports, it's easier to break the blues out if thy're connected 
to a voice patch panel.

On 19 May, 22:19, Jono <notha...@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> LeeBridgewater explained on 19/05/2008 :
>
> > Jono, thanks for this...
>
> > I have seen some Pansonic units with multicore going direct into the
> > CCU then terminating onto a voice rail/patch panel in the data cab -
> > Is this still in existance today or do you have to use individual
> > RJ45's for each extension then terminate onto the patch panel? I guess
> > this is easier as most users I guess would just plug the RJ45 for each
> > extension into the relvent module on the structured cabling patch
> > panel... sorry if Im wrong.
>
> > Lee
>
> Well, the KXTDA100 and above would use a Telco (25 pair). The one you
> were asking about the KXTDA15 has, in its out-of-the-box configuration,
> 4 physical extension ports - all of which are presented on RJ-45
> sockets.
>
> Each extension port uses 2 pairs within the cable (Blues & Oranges, I
> believe.)
>
> The Blue pair supports a single analogue extension.
>
> The Orange pair supports a digital extension (each of which can support
> an additional digital phone plugged into the bottom of the phone in
> each port.)
>
> You could plug 4 patch leads into 4 structured cabling patch panel
> sockets. At the other end, you could plug in 4 analogue phones &
> nothing else. Or you could plug in 4 of the 24 button digital phones.
> At the bottom of each are 1 analogue socket and a digital socket -
> giving you another 8 extensions.....or you could break out the blues at
> the voice patch panel and send them to diffrent outlets
>
> As you stated, there is nothing to stop you plugging the patch lead
> directly into the structured cabling patch panel & not having a voice
> patch panel, however, depending upon where you want to present the
> analogue ports, it's easier to break the blues out if thy're connected
> to a voice patch panel.

Thanks Jono, just what I was after - a clear and concise breakdown.

Once again, appreciate your time.

Lee