In article <3130303030373135480C58EB69@invalid.invalid>,
   NOSPAM <nospam@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> The message <fufeov$i6i$1@news.albasani.net> from "Steve
> Terry"  contains these words:

> > True, the first time Orange tried to charge for 0800,
> > there was a big outcry from Orange list users, but that
> > was in the days when the Orange list still had some
> > clout when read by Orange management.

> > By the 2nd time the list had just about died, and T
> > Mobile had already successfully got rid of free 0800,
> > making Orange the last one, lifting any pressure left.

> Presumably they have to pay to connect the call so make a
> loss.  Perhaps what is needed is three types of Freephone
> number - one that is free from any UK telephone, one that
> is free from any UK landline and one that is free from
> any UK mobile that is in the UK?  

> I would have thought there would be a market for a number
> that can be called free from any mobile phone?

AFAIK, there is still a legal requirement on any telephone
operator in Germany, landline, mobile, voip, to provide free
calls to any 0800 number.

I certainly get free 0800 calls on my German PAYG o2 mobile.

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"Russell Hafter News" <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote in message 
news:4f957c4c64see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid...
> In article <3130303030373135480C58EB69@invalid.invalid>,
>   NOSPAM <nospam@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> The message <fufeov$i6i$1@news.albasani.net> from "Steve
>> Terry"  contains these words:
>
>> > True, the first time Orange tried to charge for 0800,
>> > there was a big outcry from Orange list users, but that
>> > was in the days when the Orange list still had some
>> > clout when read by Orange management.
>
>> > By the 2nd time the list had just about died, and T
>> > Mobile had already successfully got rid of free 0800,
>> > making Orange the last one, lifting any pressure left.
>
>> Presumably they have to pay to connect the call so make a
>> loss.  Perhaps what is needed is three types of Freephone
>> number - one that is free from any UK telephone, one that
>> is free from any UK landline and one that is free from
>> any UK mobile that is in the UK?
>> I would have thought there would be a market for a number
>> that can be called free from any mobile phone?
>
> AFAIK, there is still a legal requirement on any telephone
> operator in Germany, landline, mobile, voip, to provide free
> calls to any 0800 number.
>
> I certainly get free 0800 calls on my German PAYG o2 mobile.
>
AFAIK most Spanish networks do too
Dutch used to

With no effective Gov control, it's simply greed on the part of the UK 
mobile networks

Especially when they won't even include 0800 from inc mins.

Steve Terry

In article <fut5jq$trj$1@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry
 wrote:

> "Russell Hafter News" <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
> wrote in message
> news:4f957c4c64see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid...

> > In article
> >   <3130303030373135480C58EB69@invalid.invalid>, NOSPAM
> >   <nospam@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> >> The message <fufeov$i6i$1@news.albasani.net> from
> >> "Steve Terry"  contains these
> >> words:

> >> > True, the first time Orange tried to charge for
> >> > 0800, there was a big outcry from Orange list users,
> >> > but that was in the days when the Orange list still
> >> > had some clout when read by Orange management.

> >> > By the 2nd time the list had just about died, and T
> >> > Mobile had already successfully got rid of free
> >> > 0800, making Orange the last one, lifting any
> >> > pressure left.

> >> Presumably they have to pay to connect the call so
> >> make a loss.  Perhaps what is needed is three types of
> >> Freephone number - one that is free from any UK
> >> telephone, one that is free from any UK landline and
> >> one that is free from any UK mobile that is in the UK?
> >> I would have thought there would be a market for a
> >> number that can be called free from any mobile phone?

> > AFAIK, there is still a legal requirement on any
> > telephone operator in Germany, landline, mobile, voip,
> > to provide free calls to any 0800 number.

> > I certainly get free 0800 calls on my German PAYG o2
> > mobile.

> AFAIK most Spanish networks do too Dutch used to

I have not tried 0800 with my Swiss, Belgian, Dutch or Czech
PAYG mobiles - I think I have done it in Austria, but not
100% certain... 

> With no effective Gov control, it's simply greed on the
> part of the UK mobile networks.

Yes, won't, not can't do anything about it.

> Especially when they won't even include 0800 from inc
> mins.

Indeed.

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Russell
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Holiday specialists for Germany, Alsace, Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg, Czech Republic