Dark and deserted, only the spirits of Halloweens past.

So sad.

Anyone got the toffee apples?


-- 
Bob.

A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest
imaginary friend.

Ye Old One wrote:
> Dark and deserted, only the spirits of Halloweens past.
> 
> So sad.
> 
> Anyone got the toffee apples?

You can have mine. I tried them once and couldn't see the point. I'll 
either eat apple (preferably russets) or toffee, but not both together.
-- 
Flash Gordon

Flash Gordon  writes:

> Ye Old One wrote:
>> Dark and deserted, only the spirits of Halloweens past.
>> 
>> So sad.

Like much else on Usenet. ):

>> Anyone got the toffee apples?
>
> You can have mine. I tried them once and couldn't see the point. I'll 
> either eat apple (preferably russets) or toffee, but not both together.

Huh. You're not a fan of the softer caramel dips for apple either, then,
I guess? At a restaurant tonight we just had, among other things, some
apple slices accompanied by mango chutney dipping sauce, of all things.
(Came with the baked brie pie thing.)

The apple with chutney was okay, I guess, but nothing special. I liked
toffee apples somewhat when I was much younger but I've not tried one
for a long time. Given the time of year, my interest would probably be
more in treacle toffee.

Mark

"Mark T. B. Carroll"  writes:

> Huh. You're not a fan of the softer caramel dips for apple either, then,
> I guess?

One thing I like is baked bramley apples, where they've been cored and
brown sugar and sultanas were baked in the core. So I suppose I do like
sweetness and apple together in that way.

Mark

In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
writes
>"Mark T. B. Carroll"  writes:
>> Huh. You're not a fan of the softer caramel dips for apple either, then,
>> I guess?

>One thing I like is baked bramley apples, where they've been cored and
>brown sugar and sultanas were baked in the core.

That does it. I have a treeful of Bramleys - well actually most of them 
are probably on the ground by now - in the back garden. I've done 
several apple crumbles; I reckon tomorrow it'll be sugar-cored baked 
apples and custard for pud, after the roast shoulder of pork, baked 
spuds, brussels sprouts, and (possibly) roast parsnips.

> So I suppose I do like
>sweetness and apple together in that way.

I enjoy sweetness with apples, but I avoid toffee, as it tends to pull 
the fillings out of my teeth.
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Andrew Marshall  writes:

> I've done several apple crumbles; I reckon tomorrow it'll be
> sugar-cored baked apples and custard for pud, after the roast shoulder
> of pork, baked spuds, brussels sprouts, and (possibly) roast parsnips.

Sounds good. (-: (I normally wrap the apples in foil parcels to keep
them moist while they bake.)

(snip)
> I enjoy sweetness with apples, but I avoid toffee, as it tends to pull 
> the fillings out of my teeth.

Oh no! That must be annoying. I'm surprised dentistry isn't yet up to
that challenge.

Mark

In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
writes
>Andrew Marshall  writes:
>> I've done several apple crumbles; I reckon tomorrow it'll be
>> sugar-cored baked apples and custard for pud, after the roast shoulder
>> of pork, baked spuds, brussels sprouts, and (possibly) roast parsnips.
>
>Sounds good. (-: (I normally wrap the apples in foil parcels to keep
>them moist while they bake.)

They do quite well in the microwave too, and that way they don't get a 
chance to dry up.

>(snip)
>> I enjoy sweetness with apples, but I avoid toffee, as it tends to pull
>> the fillings out of my teeth.

>Oh no! That must be annoying. I'm surprised dentistry isn't yet up to
>that challenge.

The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As 
I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my 
current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently 
adequate) dentition I have.
-- 
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Andrew Marshall, G8BUR, M0MAA.
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Ye Old One wrote:
> Dark and deserted, only the spirits of Halloweens past.

It has to be said, that with the disappointment of Halloweens past round 
here - no one seems to take any notice - we went out last night and a 
jolly good night it was, first going to a restaurant for some food and 
being served by a woman dressed up for the occasion including a *very* 
short skirt, and then going on to a concert by a band called "The 
Poozies" who were playing in the absolute middle of nowhere, but with a 
carved out pumpkin at the front of the stage. Even if it was in the 
middle of nowhere it was packed.

-- 

I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore

?John Wright

In message , Andrew Marshall 
 writes
>
>I enjoy sweetness with apples, but I avoid toffee, as it tends to pull 
>the fillings out of my teeth.

Toffee tends to pull the teeth out of my skull!

I have recently tried one of my wife's favourite treats, apple and 
cheese, either in a sandwich, or as a snack.     We always found the 
combination pleasant, my preference being Cox's.
-- 
Gordon H
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In message , John Wright 
writes
>Ye Old One wrote:
>> Dark and deserted, only the spirits of Halloweens past.
>
>It has to be said, that with the disappointment of Halloweens past 
>round here - no one seems to take any notice - we went out last night 
>and a jolly good night it was, first going to a restaurant for some 
>food and being served by a woman dressed up for the occasion including 
>a *very* short skirt, and then going on to a concert by a band called 
>"The Poozies" who were playing in the absolute middle of nowhere, but 
>with a carved out pumpkin at the front of the stage. Even if it was in 
>the middle of nowhere it was packed.
>
I went to a Halloween dance on Friday evening, and there were some 
delectable witches in attendance.     Of course I forgot to take my 
$%£%& camera...    :-(
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Andrew Marshall  writes:

> The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As 
> I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my 
> current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently 
> adequate) dentition I have.

I never quite understood how NHS dentistry ended up harder to get and
rather more expensive than most other NHS healthcare provision. It's
a strange inconsistency.

Mark

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:35:11 -0400, "Mark T. B. Carroll"
 enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>"Mark T. B. Carroll"  writes:
>
>> Huh. You're not a fan of the softer caramel dips for apple either, then,
>> I guess?
>
>One thing I like is baked bramley apples, where they've been cored and
>brown sugar and sultanas were baked in the core. So I suppose I do like
>sweetness and apple together in that way.

Bugger, now I feel hungry :)
>
>Mark



-- 
Bob.

A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest
imaginary friend.

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:30:16 -0500, "Mark T. B. Carroll"
 enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>Andrew Marshall  writes:
>
>> The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As 
>> I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my 
>> current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently 
>> adequate) dentition I have.
>
>I never quite understood how NHS dentistry ended up harder to get and
>rather more expensive than most other NHS healthcare provision. It's
>a strange inconsistency.
>
>Mark

Well......

It is a long story - one of greed and stupidity.

-- 
Bob.

In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
writes
>Andrew Marshall  writes:
>> The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As
>> I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my
>> current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently
>> adequate) dentition I have.

>I never quite understood how NHS dentistry ended up harder to get and
>rather more expensive than most other NHS healthcare provision. It's
>a strange inconsistency.

Well exactly - the same could be said for opticians' NHS services. Other 
body parts are treated FOC (apart from prescription charges) under the 
NHS - why not teeth and eyes?
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In message , Gordon H 
<Gordon_News@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
>In message , Andrew Marshall 
> writes
>>I enjoy sweetness with apples, but I avoid toffee, as it tends to pull 
>>the fillings out of my teeth.

>Toffee tends to pull the teeth out of my skull!

Eek! I hope I never suffer anything like that!

>I have recently tried one of my wife's favourite treats, apple and 
>cheese, either in a sandwich, or as a snack.     We always found the 
>combination pleasant, my preference being Cox's.

I tried that once, long ago, and didn't care at all for the two flavours 
together. I enjoy cheese on its own, but not with most other foods (with 
the honourable exception of a good cheese and onion sandwich or roll).

Our Cox's didn't do very well this year; the apples are tiny and not 
really worth bothering with. However, there's a small Charles Ross 
(dual-purpose eater/cooker) apple tree in the north-east corner of our 
orchard, and it's still got quite a few nice big apples on it. They 
taste very much like a Cox's. They seem to taste much better if they're 
left on the tree as long as possible, and only picked when wanted (or 
when the frosty weather really sets in). I've been enjoying rather a lot 
of them recently.
-- 
73,
Andrew Marshall, G8BUR, M0MAA.
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Andrew Marshall  writes:

> I tried that once, long ago, and didn't care at all for the two flavours 
> together. I enjoy cheese on its own, but not with most other foods (with 
> the honourable exception of a good cheese and onion sandwich or roll).

My father actually likes Cheddar cheese and jam together. I did try a
cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night, crumbled and melted on top
of a beefburger and that worked okay. But, yes, cheese and fresh onion
is great.

Mark

Mark T. B. Carroll wrote:

> 
> 
> Andrew Marshall  writes:
> 
>> The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As
>> I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my
>> current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently
>> adequate) dentition I have.
> 
> I never quite understood how NHS dentistry ended up harder to get and
> rather more expensive than most other NHS healthcare provision. It's
> a strange inconsistency.
> 
Having shafted the taxpaying public, the government then tried shafting the 
dentists, most of whom stopped providing NHS treatment and only offered 
private. So there are very few dentists that will treat you as an NHS 
patient now, and those that will are overworked. The rest of us try not to 
grit our teeth (lest it damage them) and pay for private cover.
-- 
Dave
da ve@llondel.org (without the space)
So many gadgets, so little time.

Gordon H wrote:

> 
> 
> In message , John Wright
> writes
>>Ye Old One wrote:
>>> Dark and deserted, only the spirits of Halloweens past.
>>
>>It has to be said, that with the disappointment of Halloweens past
>>round here - no one seems to take any notice - we went out last night
>>and a jolly good night it was, first going to a restaurant for some
>>food and being served by a woman dressed up for the occasion including
>>a *very* short skirt, and then going on to a concert by a band called
>>"The Poozies" who were playing in the absolute middle of nowhere, but
>>with a carved out pumpkin at the front of the stage. Even if it was in
>>the middle of nowhere it was packed.
>>
> I went to a Halloween dance on Friday evening, and there were some
> delectable witches in attendance.     Of course I forgot to take my
> $%£%& camera...    :-(

But did you remember your Viagra?
-- 
Dave
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So many gadgets, so little time.

In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
writes
>Andrew Marshall  writes:
>> I tried that once, long ago, and didn't care at all for the two flavours
>> together. I enjoy cheese on its own, but not with most other foods (with
>> the honourable exception of a good cheese and onion sandwich or roll).

>My father actually likes Cheddar cheese and jam together.

Each to their own, but I couldn't stomach that...

> I did try a
>cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night,

I've seen that in the deli counters of the usual shops, but haven't been 
moved to try it, much as I like Wensleydale, both standard, blue, and 
smoked blue.

> crumbled and melted on top
>of a beefburger and that worked okay.

Unfortunately the smell of hot, melted, or even worse, singed cheese is 
one of my all-time worst olfactory experiences, beaten only by the smell 
of baked beans.

> But, yes, cheese and fresh onion
>is great.

A good wodge of one of the crumbly white cheeses, with a thick slab of 
mild Spanish onion, is a real treat for me.
-- 
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Andrew Marshall  writes:

(snip)
> Unfortunately the smell of hot, melted, or even worse, singed cheese is 
> one of my all-time worst olfactory experiences, beaten only by the smell 
> of baked beans.

Oh no! Melted Cheddar cheese on toast with baked beans is a meal I quite
like. It's interesting how people differ.

Many years ago my mother went on some diet called the F-Plan and it
seemed to involve mixing baked beans and cheese and having it in jacket
potatoes a lot. If I recall correctly, she went through a period
thereafter when could hardly look at beans.

> A good wodge of one of the crumbly white cheeses, with a thick slab of 
> mild Spanish onion, is a real treat for me.

I admit that sounds better though. (-:

Mark

Andrew Marshall wrote:

> Unfortunately the smell of hot, melted, or even worse, singed cheese is
> one of my all-time worst olfactory experiences, beaten only by the smell
> of baked beans.
> 
Most people object to the smell of baked beans, just that most of them don't 
like the smell after they've been digested.
-- 
Dave
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So many gadgets, so little time.

"Dave {Reply Address In.Sig}" <noone$$@llondel.org> writes:

> Andrew Marshall wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately the smell of hot, melted, or even worse, singed cheese is
>> one of my all-time worst olfactory experiences, beaten only by the smell
>> of baked beans.
>> 
> Most people object to the smell of baked beans, just that most of them don't 
> like the smell after they've been digested.

Oh, good point! I hope he's been smelling new ones, not used ones. That
mistake would explain the problem.

Mark

In message , Andrew Marshall 
 writes
>In message , Gordon H 
><Gordon_News@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes

>>Toffee tends to pull the teeth out of my skull!
>
>Eek! I hope I never suffer anything like that!
>
I mean that my denture gets pulled down, not my own teeth!
Sorry to friken you.     :)

>>I have recently tried one of my wife's favourite treats, apple and 
>>cheese, either in a sandwich, or as a snack.     We always found the 
>>combination pleasant, my preference being Cox's.
>
>I tried that once, long ago, and didn't care at all for the two 
>flavours together. I enjoy cheese on its own, but not with most other 
>foods (with the honourable exception of a good cheese and onion 
>sandwich or roll).
>
>Our Cox's didn't do very well this year; the apples are tiny and not 
>really worth bothering with. However, there's a small Charles Ross 
>(dual-purpose eater/cooker) apple tree in the north-east corner of our 
>orchard, and it's still got quite a few nice big apples on it. They 
>taste very much like a Cox's. They seem to taste much better if they're 
>left on the tree as long as possible, and only picked when wanted (or 
>when the frosty weather really sets in). I've been enjoying rather a 
>lot of them recently.

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In message , Dave {Reply Address In.Sig} 
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>Gordon H wrote:
>
>> In message , John Wright
>> writes
>>>Ye Old One wrote:
>>>> Dark and deserted, only the spirits of Halloweens past.
>>>
>>>It has to be said, that with the disappointment of Halloweens past
>>>round here - no one seems to take any notice - we went out last night
>>>and a jolly good night it was, first going to a restaurant for some
>>>food and being served by a woman dressed up for the occasion including
>>>a *very* short skirt, and then going on to a concert by a band called
>>>"The Poozies" who were playing in the absolute middle of nowhere, but
>>>with a carved out pumpkin at the front of the stage. Even if it was in
>>>the middle of nowhere it was packed.
>>>
>> I went to a Halloween dance on Friday evening, and there were some
>> delectable witches in attendance.     Of course I forgot to take my
>> $%£%& camera...    :-(
>
>But did you remember your Viagra?

I haven't heard of that dance, but I do a mean Tango...
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Andrew Marshall wrote:
> In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
> writes

>> I did try a
>> cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night,
> 
> I've seen that in the deli counters of the usual shops, but haven't been 
> moved to try it, much as I like Wensleydale, both standard, blue, and 
> smoked blue.
> 
I do find it very moreish.
I once drove to the creamery at Hawes and obhtug half of a whole round 
cheesy thing.  By the time I got back home in Barlik there were only 
crumbs left.

-- 
Nev

Gordon H wrote:
> In message , Andrew Marshall 
>  writes
>> In message , Gordon H 
>> <Gordon_News@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
> 
>>> Toffee tends to pull the teeth out of my skull!
>>
>> Eek! I hope I never suffer anything like that!
>>
> I mean that my denture gets pulled down, not my own teeth!
> Sorry to friken you.     :)
> 
Toffee do it to non dentures too. A few days ago I found a nice chewy 
caramel suddenly became rather crunchy as it extracted half of a toof.
-- 
nev

John Wright > wrote:
> Ye Old One wrote:
>> Dark and deserted, only the spirits of Halloweens past.
> 
> It has to be said, that with the disappointment of Halloweens past round 
> here - no one seems to take any notice - we went out last night and a 
> jolly good night it was, first going to a restaurant for some food and 
> being served by a woman dressed up for the occasion including a *very* 
> short skirt, and then going on to a concert by a band called "The 
> Poozies" who were playing in the absolute middle of nowhere, but with a 
> carved out pumpkin at the front of the stage. Even if it was in the 
> middle of nowhere it was packed.
> 
Oooo nice. Me and friends gathered in a private wood round a roaring 
wood fire where we celebrated Samhain in our own way including some 
rather nice nosh. It were a very picturesque night what with the full 
moon shining down on us through the trees. The heavy fog that evening 
also made it feel just right.
-- 
nev

In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
writes
>Andrew Marshall  writes:
>(snip)
>> Unfortunately the smell of hot, melted, or even worse, singed cheese is
>> one of my all-time worst olfactory experiences, beaten only by the smell
>> of baked beans.

>Oh no! Melted Cheddar cheese on toast with baked beans is a meal I quite
>like. It's interesting how people differ.

'Tis, isn't it. I've seen people ordering baked spuds with cheese and 
beans at outdoor show catering stalls, and they're welcome to them. I 
try to keep away from them, to avoid the smell of their food. - the 
smell of baked beans actually makes me nauseous.

>Many years ago my mother went on some diet called the F-Plan and it
>seemed to involve mixing baked beans and cheese and having it in jacket
>potatoes a lot. If I recall correctly, she went through a period
>thereafter when could hardly look at beans.

I can well understand that! I could never contemplate such a diet.

>> A good wodge of one of the crumbly white cheeses, with a thick slab of
>> mild Spanish onion, is a real treat for me.

>I admit that sounds better though. (-:

Something similar may well form my lunch tomorrow, accompanied by a pint 
of tea.
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In message , Dave {Reply Address In.Sig} 
<noone$$@llondel.org> writes
>Andrew Marshall wrote:
>> Unfortunately the smell of hot, melted, or even worse, singed cheese is
>> one of my all-time worst olfactory experiences, beaten only by the smell
>> of baked beans.

>Most people object to the smell of baked beans, just that most of them don't
>like the smell after they've been digested.

IME all food smells horrible post-digestion.
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In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
writes
>"Dave {Reply Address In.Sig}" <noone$$@llondel.org> writes:
>> Andrew Marshall wrote:
>>> Unfortunately the smell of hot, melted, or even worse, singed cheese is
>>> one of my all-time worst olfactory experiences, beaten only by the smell
>>> of baked beans.

>> Most people object to the smell of baked beans, just that most of them don't
>> like the smell after they've been digested.

>Oh, good point! I hope he's been smelling new ones, not used ones. That
>mistake would explain the problem.

No mistake; I cannot abide the aroma of new baked beans, especially when 
they're hot, and their smell is wafting around the kitchen, dining room 
or anywhere else. I hated them from the first whiff.
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In message <hcl1ad$3js$1@news.eternal-september.org>, nev young 
 writes
>Andrew Marshall wrote:
>> In message , Mark T. B. Carroll 
>>  writes
>>> I did try a
>>> cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night,

>>  I've seen that in the deli counters of the usual shops, but haven't 
>>been moved to try it, much as I like Wensleydale, both standard, blue, 
>>and smoked blue.

>I do find it very moreish.
>I once drove to the creamery at Hawes and obhtug half of a whole round 
>cheesy thing.  By the time I got back home in Barlik there were only 
>crumbs left.

I suspect that in similar circs I might do much the same. I remember, 
though, during a trip to the North Norfolk Railway a few years ago, 
looking sadly at a large piece of smoked blue Wensleydale in Larner's 
delicatessen in Holt, and cursing the fact that, as I was several days 
away from being able to put it in the fridge, I had to eschew it rather 
than chew it. I should, of course, have bought a couple of rolls and a 
chunk of the cheese and scoffed the lot.
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In message , Gordon H 
<Gordon_News@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
>In message , Andrew Marshall 
> writes
>>In message , Gordon H 
>><Gordon_News@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
>>>Toffee tends to pull the teeth out of my skull!

>>Eek! I hope I never suffer anything like that!

>I mean that my denture gets pulled down, not my own teeth!
>Sorry to friken you.     :)

OIC. That said, I have encountered some dangerously-adhesive toffee, 
which would probably have been capable of extracting any iffy teeth from 
my jaw.
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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:12:01 퍍, "Dave {Reply Address In.Sig}"
<noone$$@llondel.org> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>Mark T. B. Carroll wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Marshall  writes:
>> 
>>> The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As
>>> I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my
>>> current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently
>>> adequate) dentition I have.
>> 
>> I never quite understood how NHS dentistry ended up harder to get and
>> rather more expensive than most other NHS healthcare provision. It's
>> a strange inconsistency.
>> 
>Having shafted the taxpaying public, the government then tried shafting the 
>dentists, most of whom stopped providing NHS treatment and only offered 
>private.

Actually, not quite true. The dentists did the shafting, got caught,
had the rules changed, so they took a sulk.

> So there are very few dentists that will treat you as an NHS 
>patient now,

But you do have the legal right to a NHS dentist and it is up to your
local PCT to provide one.

> and those that will are overworked. The rest of us try not to 
>grit our teeth (lest it damage them) and pay for private cover.

-- 
Bob.

In uk.singles,  (Mark T. B. Carroll) wrote in
::

>Andrew Marshall  writes:
>
>> I tried that once, long ago, and didn't care at all for the two flavours 
>> together. I enjoy cheese on its own, but not with most other foods (with 
>> the honourable exception of a good cheese and onion sandwich or roll).
>
>My father actually likes Cheddar cheese and jam together. I did try a
>cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night, crumbled and melted on top
>of a beefburger and that worked okay. But, yes, cheese and fresh onion
>is great.

Wensleydale and blackcurrant.  Mmmm.
-- 
Marc

"A millihelen is the amount of beauty required to launch a single ship.  " (anon)

In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
::

>In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
>writes
>>Andrew Marshall  writes:
>>> The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As
>>> I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my
>>> current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently
>>> adequate) dentition I have.
>
>>I never quite understood how NHS dentistry ended up harder to get and
>>rather more expensive than most other NHS healthcare provision. It's
>>a strange inconsistency.
>
>Well exactly - the same could be said for opticians' NHS services. Other 
>body parts are treated FOC (apart from prescription charges) under the 
>NHS - why not teeth and eyes?

It was costing too much, according to the NHS.  And not paying enough,
according to the dentists. There seems to be no answer to the deadlock.

Bizarrely, we have not one but two NHS dentistry practices in my area,
which is relatively well-off.  Staffed entirely by non-Brits, of course.
My current dentist is a lovely lass from (IIRC) Galway: I could listen
to her all day.
-- 
Marc

"A millihelen is the amount of beauty required to launch a single ship.  " (anon)

In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
::

>The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As 
>I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my 
>current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently 
>adequate) dentition I have.

You don't have an NHS dentist round your way?
-- 
Marc

"A millihelen is the amount of beauty required to launch a single ship.  " (anon)

In uk.singles,  (Mark T. B. Carroll) wrote in
::

>"Dave {Reply Address In.Sig}" <noone$$@llondel.org> writes:
>
>> Andrew Marshall wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately the smell of hot, melted, or even worse, singed cheese is
>>> one of my all-time worst olfactory experiences, beaten only by the smell
>>> of baked beans.
>>> 
>> Most people object to the smell of baked beans, just that most of them don't 
>> like the smell after they've been digested.
>
>Oh, good point! I hope he's been smelling new ones, not used ones. That
>mistake would explain the problem.

Explains the "F" in "F-plan".
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On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:30:14 퍍, Andrew Marshall
 enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
>writes
>>Andrew Marshall  writes:
>>> I tried that once, long ago, and didn't care at all for the two flavours
>>> together. I enjoy cheese on its own, but not with most other foods (with
>>> the honourable exception of a good cheese and onion sandwich or roll).
>
>>My father actually likes Cheddar cheese and jam together.
>
>Each to their own, but I couldn't stomach that...
>
>> I did try a
>>cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night,
>
>I've seen that in the deli counters of the usual shops, but haven't been 
>moved to try it, much as I like Wensleydale, both standard, blue, and 
>smoked blue.
>
>> crumbled and melted on top
>>of a beefburger and that worked okay.
>
>Unfortunately the smell of hot, melted, or even worse, singed cheese is 
>one of my all-time worst olfactory experiences, 

I love it.

>beaten only by the smell 
>of baked beans.

Never have mine unless they are straight out the fridge.
>
>> But, yes, cheese and fresh onion
>>is great.
>
>A good wodge of one of the crumbly white cheeses, with a thick slab of 
>mild Spanish onion, is a real treat for me.

Sounds good to me as well. Trouble is, I'm not allowed too much fat :(

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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:16:58 퍍, nev young
 enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>Andrew Marshall wrote:
>> In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
>> writes
>
>>> I did try a
>>> cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night,
>> 
>> I've seen that in the deli counters of the usual shops, but haven't been 
>> moved to try it, much as I like Wensleydale, both standard, blue, and 
>> smoked blue.
>> 
>I do find it very moreish.
>I once drove to the creamery at Hawes and obhtug half of a whole round 
>cheesy thing.  By the time I got back home in Barlik there were only 
>crumbs left.

I remember that place well. IIRC my feet were still wet :)

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On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:11:27 퍍, Andrew Marshall
 enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>In message <hcl1ad$3js$1@news.eternal-september.org>, nev young 
> writes
>>Andrew Marshall wrote:
>>> In message , Mark T. B. Carroll 
>>>  writes
>>>> I did try a
>>>> cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night,
>
>>>  I've seen that in the deli counters of the usual shops, but haven't 
>>>been moved to try it, much as I like Wensleydale, both standard, blue, 
>>>and smoked blue.
>
>>I do find it very moreish.
>>I once drove to the creamery at Hawes and obhtug half of a whole round 
>>cheesy thing.  By the time I got back home in Barlik there were only 
>>crumbs left.
>
>I suspect that in similar circs I might do much the same. I remember, 
>though, during a trip to the North Norfolk Railway a few years ago, 
>looking sadly at a large piece of smoked blue Wensleydale in Larner's 
>delicatessen in Holt, and cursing the fact that, as I was several days 
>away from being able to put it in the fridge, I had to eschew it rather 
>than chew it. I should, of course, have bought a couple of rolls and a 
>chunk of the cheese and scoffed the lot.

I was always taught that you should never keep cheese in the fridge.

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In message <hcl1ad$3js$1@news.eternal-september.org>, nev young 
 writes
>Andrew Marshall wrote:
>> In message , Mark T. B. Carroll 
>>  writes
>
>>> I did try a
>>> cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night,
>>  I've seen that in the deli counters of the usual shops, but haven't 
>>been moved to try it, much as I like Wensleydale, both standard, blue, 
>>and smoked blue.
>>
>I do find it very moreish.
>I once drove to the creamery at Hawes and obhtug half of a whole round 
>cheesy thing.  By the time I got back home in Barlik there were only 
>crumbs left.
>
I became partial to Wensleydale (sometimes with cranberry) after a few 
days in the Dales with Pat, my ex g/f (Andrew met us at a steam boink on 
the ELR, IIRC).     It was supposed to be a walking holiday, but it 
pissed down the whole time, so we were reduced to tours of the rope 
works at Hawes (more interesting than we thought it would be) and the 
cheese factory at Wensley.

It was slightly perturbing to see the quantity of salt being literally 
shovelled into the huge vats...
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In message <hcl1fq$3js$2@news.eternal-september.org>, nev young 
 writes
>Gordon H wrote:
>> In message , Andrew Marshall 
>> writes
>>> In message , Gordon H 
>>><Gordon_News@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
>>
>>>> Toffee tends to pull the teeth out of my skull!
>>>
>>> Eek! I hope I never suffer anything like that!
>>>
>> I mean that my denture gets pulled down, not my own teeth!
>> Sorry to friken you.     :)
>>
>Toffee do it to non dentures too. A few days ago I found a nice chewy 
>caramel suddenly became rather crunchy as it extracted half of a toof.

Yes, it has happened to me.   The dentist has to do a repair job every 
month or two, and the nice thing is he doesn't charge for it because I 
am careful about regular 6 month examinations.
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 writes
>
>I do find it very moreish.
>I once drove to the creamery at Hawes and obhtug half of a whole round 
>cheesy thing.  By the time I got back home in Barlik there were only 
>crumbs left.
>
There is something spooky about the word "bought".

Anyone notice that its ROT13 value is also its anagram?
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>In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>::
>>The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As
>>I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my
>>current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently
>>adequate) dentition I have.

>You don't have an NHS dentist round your way?

Even NHS dental charges are currently far more than I can currently 
afford. There's nothing significantly awry, so I'm leaving things as 
they are.
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>On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:11:27 +0000, Andrew Marshall
> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>> I remember,
>>though, during a trip to the North Norfolk Railway a few years ago,
>>looking sadly at a large piece of smoked blue Wensleydale in Larner's
>>delicatessen in Holt, and cursing the fact that, as I was several days
>>away from being able to put it in the fridge, I had to eschew it rather
>>than chew it.

>I was always taught that you should never keep cheese in the fridge.

I've never heard that one - I always keep it in the fridge, and it comes 
to no harm there.

Had I bought the cheese, and kept it with me for the next week or so, 
it'd have walked out of the car on its own when I got it home.
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In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
::

>In message , Marc Wilson 
> writes
>>In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>>::
>>>The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As
>>>I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my
>>>current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently
>>>adequate) dentition I have.
>
>>You don't have an NHS dentist round your way?
>
>Even NHS dental charges are currently far more than I can currently 
>afford. There's nothing significantly awry, so I'm leaving things as 
>they are.

Are you sure?  If you're in receipt of benefits, you should get it
substantially reduced or SFP.
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Make love as though you don't need the money. 
Dance and hope no one gets hurt" - Anonymous

In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
::

>In message , Ye Old One 
> writes
>>On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:11:27 +0000, Andrew Marshall
>> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>>> I remember,
>>>though, during a trip to the North Norfolk Railway a few years ago,
>>>looking sadly at a large piece of smoked blue Wensleydale in Larner's
>>>delicatessen in Holt, and cursing the fact that, as I was several days
>>>away from being able to put it in the fridge, I had to eschew it rather
>>>than chew it.
>
>>I was always taught that you should never keep cheese in the fridge.
>
>I've never heard that one - I always keep it in the fridge, and it comes 
>to no harm there.

The purist would tell you that, at the least, it should be removed from
the fridge some time before eating.  In a perfect world, you'd have a
big granite or marble slab in your pantry to store cheeses, rather than
the fridge.
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Make love as though you don't need the money. 
Dance and hope no one gets hurt" - Anonymous

In uk.singles,  (Gordon H) wrote in
::

>In message <hcl1ad$3js$1@news.eternal-september.org>, nev young 
> writes
>>
>>I do find it very moreish.
>>I once drove to the creamery at Hawes and obhtug half of a whole round 
>>cheesy thing.  By the time I got back home in Barlik there were only 
>>crumbs left.
>>
>There is something spooky about the word "bought".
>
>Anyone notice that its ROT13 value is also its anagram?

Gods, is it 2004 already?

Sometimes known as a "perfect ROT".
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Make love as though you don't need the money. 
Dance and hope no one gets hurt" - Anonymous

Ye Old One wrote:
> 
> I was always taught that you should never keep cheese in the fridge.
> 
I think that deep ends on if you wish it to continue maturing or not.
These days most folk[1] think cheese has gorn off just because it has 
grown a green fur coat.

[1] I am included in that set.
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Gordon H wrote:
> In message <hcl1ad$3js$1@news.eternal-september.org>, nev young 
>  writes
>>
>> I do find it very moreish.
>> I once drove to the creamery at Hawes and obhtug half of a whole round 
>> cheesy thing.  By the time I got back home in Barlik there were only 
>> crumbs left.
>>
> There is something spooky about the word "bought".
> 
> Anyone notice that its ROT13 value is also its anagram?

Oooo good spot of a top ROT.
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In message , Marc Wilson 
 writes
>In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>::
>>Even NHS dental charges are currently far more than I can currently
>>afford. There's nothing significantly awry, so I'm leaving things as
>>they are.

>Are you sure?  If you're in receipt of benefits, you should get it
>substantially reduced or SFP.

I'm not in receipt of benefits, as I still have too much in the 
piggybank.
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Andrew Marshall wrote:
> In message , Marc Wilson 
>  writes
>> In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>> ::
>>> Even NHS dental charges are currently far more than I can currently
>>> afford. There's nothing significantly awry, so I'm leaving things as
>>> they are.
> 
>> Are you sure?  If you're in receipt of benefits, you should get it
>> substantially reduced or SFP.
> 
> I'm not in receipt of benefits, as I still have too much in the piggybank.

MTAAW.

It's all a plot to skew the unemployment figures you know.

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In message , Marc Wilson 
 writes
>In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>::
>>In message , Ye Old One
>> writes
>>>I was always taught that you should never keep cheese in the fridge.

>>I've never heard that one - I always keep it in the fridge, and it comes
>>to no harm there.

>The purist would tell you that, at the least, it should be removed from
>the fridge some time before eating.

Ah well, I've always been more practical than pure...

>  In a perfect world, you'd have a
>big granite or marble slab in your pantry to store cheeses, rather than
>the fridge.

That'd certainly slow down any temperature change, but both upwards and 
downwards, so I'm not sure that it'd be of much use in hot weather; in a 
day or two I'd have some rather hairy cheese.
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In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
::

>In message , Marc Wilson 
> writes
>>In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>>::
>>>Even NHS dental charges are currently far more than I can currently
>>>afford. There's nothing significantly awry, so I'm leaving things as
>>>they are.
>
>>Are you sure?  If you're in receipt of benefits, you should get it
>>substantially reduced or SFP.
>
>I'm not in receipt of benefits, as I still have too much in the 
>piggybank.

Careless. :)

Should have drawn it all out and kept it under the mattress.
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:14:24 퍍, nev young
 enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>Ye Old One wrote:
>> 
>> I was always taught that you should never keep cheese in the fridge.
>> 
>I think that deep ends on if you wish it to continue maturing or not.
>These days most folk[1] think cheese has gorn off just because it has 
>grown a green fur coat.
>
>[1] I am included in that set.

Just trim off the green bits :)

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In message <hcm8t8$ief$1@news.eternal-september.org>, nev young 
 writes
>Andrew Marshall wrote:
>> In message , Marc Wilson 
>> writes
>>> In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>>> ::
>>>> Even NHS dental charges are currently far more than I can currently
>>>> afford. There's nothing significantly awry, so I'm leaving things as
>>>> they are.

>>> Are you sure?  If you're in receipt of benefits, you should get it
>>> substantially reduced or SFP.

>>  I'm not in receipt of benefits, as I still have too much in the 
>>piggybank.

>MTAAW.

>It's all a plot to skew the unemployment figures you know.

Oh absolutely. I signed off at the Jobcentre once my contribution-based 
JSA ran out, as l had already paid enough NI contributions for my State 
pension, so I don't need any more credits. That suited them, as it took 
me off the 'unemployed' stats, and made me 'non-employed' instead.

<rant>
In much the same vein, the various recent 'controlled services' 
regulations, such as Part P, and other building rules (new windows and 
doors being one example) have hooter-all to do with safety or similar 
concerns, but everything to do with the reduction of unemployment 
statistics, and, even more importantly, the collection of more income 
tax, VAT and corporation tax, from the extra business gained by 
professional[44806] tradesfolk, and from the payments extracted from 
their enforced customers. Turn a £50 job into a £500 one, and the 
government coins it big-time.

[44806]but not necessarily competent.
</rant>
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In message , Ye Old One 
 writes
>On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:14:24 +0000, nev young
> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>
>>Ye Old One wrote:
>>>
>>> I was always taught that you should never keep cheese in the fridge.
>>>
>>I think that deep ends on if you wish it to continue maturing or not.
>>These days most folk[1] think cheese has gorn off just because it has
>>grown a green fur coat.
>>
>>[1] I am included in that set.
>
>Just trim off the green bits :)
>
That still leaves most of it to be thrown away.
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In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
::

>In message <hcm8t8$ief$1@news.eternal-september.org>, nev young 
> writes
>>Andrew Marshall wrote:
>>> In message , Marc Wilson 
>>> writes
>>>> In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>>>> ::
>>>>> Even NHS dental charges are currently far more than I can currently
>>>>> afford. There's nothing significantly awry, so I'm leaving things as
>>>>> they are.
>
>>>> Are you sure?  If you're in receipt of benefits, you should get it
>>>> substantially reduced or SFP.
>
>>>  I'm not in receipt of benefits, as I still have too much in the 
>>>piggybank.
>
>>MTAAW.
>
>>It's all a plot to skew the unemployment figures you know.
>
>Oh absolutely. I signed off at the Jobcentre once my contribution-based 
>JSA ran out, as l had already paid enough NI contributions for my State 
>pension, so I don't need any more credits. That suited them, as it took 
>me off the 'unemployed' stats, and made me 'non-employed' instead.
>
><rant>
>In much the same vein, the various recent 'controlled services' 
>regulations, such as Part P, and other building rules (new windows and 
>doors being one example) have hooter-all to do with safety or similar 
>concerns, but everything to do with the reduction of unemployment 
>statistics, and, even more importantly, the collection of more income 
>tax, VAT and corporation tax, from the extra business gained by 
>professional[44806] tradesfolk, and from the payments extracted from 
>their enforced customers. Turn a £50 job into a £500 one, and the 
>government coins it big-time.
>
>[44806]but not necessarily competent.
></rant>

"All professions are conspiracies against the laity" - GBS.
-- 
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And we're supposed to be discouraged? Oh please. 
We're being opposed by people who denounced the fork" (Robin Morgan)

Andrew Marshall  writes:

> I'm not in receipt of benefits, as I still have too much in the 
> piggybank.

Argh. I do often feel myself strongly incentivized to avoid bothering to
save.

Mark

In message , Mark T. B. Carroll  
writes
>Andrew Marshall  writes:
>> I'm not in receipt of benefits, as I still have too much in the
>> piggybank.

>Argh. I do often feel myself strongly incentivized to avoid bothering to
>save.

Ridiculous, isn't it. Still, if it's cheaper for TPTB they'll usually do 
it, and hooter the poor Joe who gets the sharp end of the stick.
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Marc Wilson wrote:
> In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
> ::
> 
>> In message , Marc Wilson 
>>  writes
>>> In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>>> ::
>>>> Even NHS dental charges are currently far more than I can currently
>>>> afford. There's nothing significantly awry, so I'm leaving things as
>>>> they are.
>>> Are you sure?  If you're in receipt of benefits, you should get it
>>> substantially reduced or SFP.
>> I'm not in receipt of benefits, as I still have too much in the 
>> piggybank.
> 
> Careless. :)
> 
> Should have drawn it all out and kept it under the mattress.

In the current light of day it would have been at least as interesting.
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Andrew Marshall wrote:

> <rant>
> In much the same vein, the various recent 'controlled services'
> regulations, such as Part P, and other building rules (new windows and
> doors being one example) have hooter-all to do with safety or similar
> concerns, but everything to do with the reduction of unemployment
> statistics, and, even more importantly, the collection of more income
> tax, VAT and corporation tax, from the extra business gained by
> professional[44806] tradesfolk, and from the payments extracted from
> their enforced customers. Turn a £50 job into a £500 one, and the
> government coins it big-time.
> 
I know people who've done courses for Part P so they can self-certify the 
work they're planning. However, the evil bit is that you have to do work to 
keep the certificate current. If I need Part P then I'll do the work myself 
and pay one of the aforementioned people to come and certify it for me.
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Andrew Marshall wrote:
> 
> That'd certainly slow down any temperature change, but both upwards and
> downwards, so I'm not sure that it'd be of much use in hot weather; in a
> day or two I'd have some rather hairy cheese.

You ought to go down to Cheddar and watch the man make the stuff. Once 
you've seen how it's made, they show you the stored maturing rounds, which 
are covered in mould.

Hard cheese is one of those useful foods where you can clean the mould off 
the outside, it doesn't penetrate.
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In article , noone$$@llondel.org says...
> Andrew Marshall wrote:
> 
> > <rant>
> > In much the same vein, the various recent 'controlled services'
> > regulations, such as Part P, and other building rules (new windows and
> > doors being one example) have hooter-all to do with safety or similar
> > concerns, but everything to do with the reduction of unemployment
> > statistics, and, even more importantly, the collection of more income
> > tax, VAT and corporation tax, from the extra business gained by
> > professional[44806] tradesfolk, and from the payments extracted from
> > their enforced customers. Turn a £50 job into a £500 one, and the
> > government coins it big-time.
> > 
> I know people who've done courses for Part P so they can self-certify the 
> work they're planning. However, the evil bit is that you have to do work to 
> keep the certificate current. If I need Part P then I'll do the work myself 
> and pay one of the aforementioned people to come and certify it for me.

Part P for

   Prescott 
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   Pedantic
   Paperwork
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   problems...

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In message , Dave {Reply Address In.Sig} 
<noone$$@llondel.org> writes
>Andrew Marshall wrote:
>> In much the same vein, the various recent 'controlled services'
>> regulations, such as Part P, and other building rules (new windows and
>> doors being one example) have hooter-all to do with safety or similar
>> concerns, but everything to do with the reduction of unemployment
>> statistics, and, even more importantly, the collection of more income
>> tax, VAT and corporation tax

>I know people who've done courses for Part P so they can self-certify the
>work they're planning. However, the evil bit is that you have to do work to
>keep the certificate current.

Yes; probably specifically intended to stop people doing the course just 
so they can DIY and circumvent the tax grab.

> If I need Part P then I'll do the work myself
>and pay one of the aforementioned people to come and certify it for me.

Same with me, though I doubt it'll happen any time soon. A good stock of 
pre-owned parts can come in handy.

ICBW, but ISTR seeing somewhere (I can't remember where) that the 
building control folk may be obliged to certify others' work free of 
charge.
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In message , Dave {Reply Address In.Sig} 
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>Andrew Marshall wrote:
>> That'd certainly slow down any temperature change, but both upwards and
>> downwards, so I'm not sure that it'd be of much use in hot weather; in a
>> day or two I'd have some rather hairy cheese.

>You ought to go down to Cheddar and watch the man make the stuff. Once
>you've seen how it's made, they show you the stored maturing rounds, which
>are covered in mould.

That's something I might well do, if/when I can again allocate myself a 
recreational travel budget. I think I might prefer to head 
Wensleydale-wards, though, if the creameries in that area host tours.

>Hard cheese is one of those useful foods where you can clean the mould off
>the outside, it doesn't penetrate.

Oh yes; I've done that now and then - if there are no cracks in the 
cheese, it's usually OK.
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"Mark T. B. Carroll"  wrote:
> Andrew Marshall  writes:
> 
>> I tried that once, long ago, and didn't care at all for the two
>> flavours together. I enjoy cheese on its own, but not with most
>> other foods (with the honourable exception of a good cheese and
>> onion sandwich or roll). 
> 
> My father actually likes Cheddar cheese and jam together. I did
> try a cranberry-punctuated Wensleydale last night, crumbled and
> melted on top of a beefburger and that worked okay. But, yes,
> cheese and fresh onion is great.

The one I learned from my father is toast with peanut butter and 
cottage cheese on top.  Sounds awful but is really quite tasty.

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>In message , Dave {Reply Address In.Sig} 
><noone$$@llondel.org> writes

>>You ought to go down to Cheddar and watch the man make the stuff. Once
>>you've seen how it's made, they show you the stored maturing rounds, which
>>are covered in mould.
>
>That's something I might well do, if/when I can again allocate myself a 
>recreational travel budget. I think I might prefer to head 
>Wensleydale-wards, though, if the creameries in that area host tours.

We had a tour of the cheese factory at Wensley.
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In message , Gordon H 
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>In message <y7sT3lCQx17KFw+a@g8bur.demon.co.uk>, Andrew Marshall 
> writes
>>In message , Dave {Reply Address In.Sig} 
>><noone$$@llondel.org> writes
>>>You ought to go down to Cheddar and watch the man make the stuff.

>>I think I might prefer to head Wensleydale-wards, though, if the 
>>creameries in that area host tours.

>We had a tour of the cheese factory at Wensley.

In that case, I'll definitely put it on the list of things to do should 
I take a trip to that neck of the woods.
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Mark T. B. Carroll wrote:
> Andrew Marshall  writes:
> 
>> The fillings were mostly put in when I was a kid, about 50 years ago. As 
>> I haven't mined any salt for over two years now, dentistry is beyond my 
>> current means, so I have to take very great care of what (currently 
>> adequate) dentition I have.
> 
> I never quite understood how NHS dentistry ended up harder to get and
> rather more expensive than most other NHS healthcare provision. It's
> a strange inconsistency.

I don't understand it at all! Especialy since I can now get private 
treatment cheaper than I could through the NHS. The only thing I do is 
tell them I might well be able to claim it back. (My employer does a 
good line in private healthcare - it should do being American.


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I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore

?John Wright

Andrew Marshall wrote:
> In message <hcm8t8$ief$1@news.eternal-september.org>, nev young 
>  writes
>> Andrew Marshall wrote:
>>> In message , Marc Wilson 
>>>  writes
>>>> In uk.singles,  (Andrew Marshall) wrote in
>>>> ::
>>>>> Even NHS dental charges are currently far more than I can currently
>>>>> afford. There's nothing significantly awry, so I'm leaving things as
>>>>> they are.
> 
>>>> Are you sure?  If you're in receipt of benefits, you should get it
>>>> substantially reduced or SFP.
> 
>>>  I'm not in receipt of benefits, as I still have too much in the 
>>> piggybank.
> 
>> MTAAW.
> 
>> It's all a plot to skew the unemployment figures you know.
> 
> Oh absolutely. I signed off at the Jobcentre once my contribution-based 
> JSA ran out, as l had already paid enough NI contributions for my State 
> pension, so I don't need any more credits. That suited them, as it took 
> me off the 'unemployed' stats, and made me 'non-employed' instead.
> 
> <rant>
> In much the same vein, the various recent 'controlled services' 
> regulations, such as Part P, 

I suspect you're totally right here. My brother is/was an electrician 
but of the industrial variety. He was making a reasonable income doing 
"foreigners" for most of his life till part P came in. Since it would 
cost him around £750 per year to register he didn't bother. Part P saved 
precisely 0 lives. He lost a lot of cash. Companies employing people 
made quite a bit more - they are the only ones who can afford it.

I would feel safer in a house he had re-wired than one done by a 
beneficiary of Part P. I could do it myself since I actually understand 
it all but I would not be allowed to. I don't have the certification, 
I'm only a physicist.
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I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore

?John Wright

Andrew Marshall wrote:
> In message , Gordon H 
> <Gordon_News@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
>> In message <y7sT3lCQx17KFw+a@g8bur.demon.co.uk>, Andrew Marshall 
>>  writes
>>> In message , Dave {Reply Address In.Sig} 
>>> <noone$$@llondel.org> writes
>>>> You ought to go down to Cheddar and watch the man make the stuff.
> 
>>> I think I might prefer to head Wensleydale-wards, though, if the 
>>> creameries in that area host tours.
> 
>> We had a tour of the cheese factory at Wensley.
> 
> In that case, I'll definitely put it on the list of things to do should 
> I take a trip to that neck of the woods.

Make sure you have good shoes. (re Bob's post prev of a visit there).
Although I'm sure the dampness of foot occurred later at White Scar.

an you'll want this un
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=6870083252562672425&q=cheese&hl=en&cd=2&cad=src:pplink&ei=7ELxSu3dJ53UjAf9p62gAg&sig2=hT9xwvVH0O8k8Q5ebKnlWQ
not this un
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=8134181234815645932&q=cheese&hl=en&cd=1&cad=src:pplink&ei=7ELxSu3dJ53UjAf9p62gAg&sig2=MNmGJWe2EA3vlZOftlpQyQ
for proper Wallace and Grommit cheese.

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nev