I've put some photo's up on the web of some of the "after" shots of
the Morpeth floods.

http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=34283&l=c1d74&id=563002144

I was brought up in the town, but I'm just too young to remember the
1963 flood.

Kind regards

Paul

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 00:23:05 -0700 (PDT), jimmymarsoatgooglemail.com wrote:

> http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=34283&l=c1d74&id=563002144

Image 4

"One of the worst hit streets in Morpeth. They had to break down the door 
to get the folks out."

Why did they have to get the folks out? Less than 24hrs later the water 
has gone and it didn't get any higher than just above the ground floor 
window cills. Was the terrace in danger of collapse or being undermined by 
the water?

I do have a little sympathy for those homes flooded to 3 or 4 feet as this 
does look like the "100 year" flood(*). But not for anyone who complains 
"they" didn't tells us we could be flooded. Use a bit of common sense, I 
reckon if you are less than 20' above the normal water level of almost any 
water course you are at risk of flood. Less than 50' above for larger 
water courses.

(*) Recent years has seen some rather wetter than normal periods. Is this 
just normal variation or something more long term...

-- 
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:

> "One of the worst hit streets in Morpeth. They had to break down the door
> to get the folks out."
> 
> Why did they have to get the folks out? Less than 24hrs later the water
> has gone and it didn't get any higher than just above the ground floor
> window cills. Was the terrace in danger of collapse or being undermined by
> the water?

No toilet facilities available for 24 hours? I suppose they could just do
their business in the flood water I suppose, as it might well already have
sewage in it anyway.

-- 
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK.  E-mail: newsman not newsboy

On Sep 8, 12:32 pm, Graham P Davis  wrote:
> Dave Liquorice wrote:
> > "One of the worst hit streets in Morpeth. They had to break down the door
> > to get the folks out."
>
> > Why did they have to get the folks out? Less than 24hrs later the water
> > has gone and it didn't get any higher than just above the ground floor
> > window cills. Was the terrace in danger of collapse or being undermined by
> > the water?
>
> No toilet facilities available for 24 hours? I suppose they could just do
> their business in the flood water I suppose, as it might well already have
> sewage in it anyway.

20" above the DPC and the sewage is in the house from everyone
upstream if you have a downstairs loo. It will come in through other
outlets Bath = 24"? W/machine? Kitchen sink about 30".

The power will have gone out and fridges contaminated. Even the gas
supply if you have one will be suspect. But the crook thing is that
the foundations are now in danger from movement.

Beware of any loss adjusters rushing to settle your claims.

On Sep 8, 8:23 am, "jimmymarsoatgooglemail.com" 
wrote:
> I've put some photo's up on the web of some of the "after" shots of
> the Morpeth floods.
>
> http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=34283&l=c1d74&id=563002144
>
> I was brought up in the town, but I'm just too young to remember the
> 1963 flood.

"The wall on the right is about 6 foot high, and at it's height the
river came over the top and deposited a bench and a freezer on this
poor chaps car."

When you say poor....

The car is a write off now.

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:32:51 +0100, Graham P Davis wrote:

>> Why did they have to get the folks out? Less than 24hrs later the water
>> has gone ...
> 
> No toilet facilities available for 24 hours? 

Don't people have buckets anymore?

> just do their business in the flood water I suppose, as it might well 
> already have sewage in it anyway.

No might about it, it will. How diluted will be very variable.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.

On Sep 8, 10:30 am, "Dave Liquorice" 
wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 00:23:05 -0700 (PDT), jimmymarsoatgooglemail.com wrote> >http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=34283&l=c1d74&id=563002144
>
> Image 4
>
> "One of the worst hit streets in Morpeth. They had to break down the door
> to get the folks out."
>
> Why did they have to get the folks out? Less than 24hrs later the water
> has gone and it didn't get any higher than just above the ground floor
> window cills. Was the terrace in danger of collapse or being undermined by
> the water?
>
> I do have a little sympathy for those homes flooded to 3 or 4 feet as this
> does look like the "100 year" flood(*). But not for anyone who complains
> "they" didn't tells us we could be flooded. Use a bit of common sense, I
> reckon if you are less than 20' above the normal water level of almost any
> water course you are at risk of flood. Less than 50' above for larger
> water courses.
>
> (*) Recent years has seen some rather wetter than normal periods. Is this
> just normal variation or something more long term...
>
> --
> Cheers
> Dave.

    The flood water, if 4 feet deep, is going to come in whether
you're told in advance or not, and your entire downstairs will be
ruined.  Pretty well everything.  All you can do is get out and return
later to a stinking pile of rot.  So it's good to know that you have
"a little sympathy" for a household suffering such a fate.  What would
it take for you to show "a great deal of sympathy"?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

On 8 Sep, 19:34, Weatherlawyer  wrote:
> On Sep 8, 8:23 am, "jimmymarsoatgooglemail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> > I've put some photo's up on the web of some of the "after" shots of
> > the Morpeth floods.
>
> >http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=34283&l=c1d74&id=563002144
>
> > I was brought up in the town, but I'm just too young to remember the
> > 1963 flood.
>
> "The wall on the right is about 6 foot high, and at it's height the
> river came over the top and deposited a bench and a freezer on this
> poor chaps car."
>
> When you say poor....
>
> The car is a write off now.

There is an update on this storey ....

The car was originally at the other end of the street and floated to
this position next to the "No Parking" sign.  The owner was, and still
is on holliday.

Regards

Paul

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tudor Hughes wrote:

> All you can do is get out and return later to a stinking pile of rot.  

Why do you need to "get out" or be "rescued"? If the building is in danger 
of collapse or undermining fair enough but other wise? Go up stairs and 
sit it out. In the majority of locations the water will rise, wreck your 
ground floor and fall again in a matter of hours.

> So it's good to know that you have "a little sympathy" for a household 
> suffering such a fate.  What would it take for you to show "a great deal 
> of sympathy"?

For some one to have their home similary flooded by natural flood waters, 
when they are *not* within the flood risk zone I previously descibed. ie 
more than 20 vertical feet above normal water levels of any water course 
or 50 vertical feet above a larger river. Anything lower than that and you 
*are* going to get flooded at some point. A little brook or stream at the 
bottom of the garden may look pretty and harmless but it does pose a flood 
threat, anyone with any common sense can see that.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.