Oh my This is a terribly grim place. The weather is normally abysmal. The 
people are either locals who hate you setting foot in the county or ex 
Londoners who bought up all the pokey little cottages which tends to be 
ideally stereotypical and everyone hates them for sure. The pubs are 
distantly unfriendly to tourists (locals are welcomed) and the proprieters 
glare at you as though you come from outer space. The panorama is nothing, 
not a patch, on the scale of Snowdonia or most of beautiful Scotland.  Its 
overrun with with hikers and cars because the region isn't THAT large. Over 
rated theres nothing there when you need it but IS perhaps when you dont, 
like a crappy roadside disgustingly fatty burger trailer with overpriced 
teas except in central Exeter but then I expect thats how it should be.To 
cap it all you have Will Hand head local chief in command senior water 
dowser and Meteorological Self Healer, Paul Dawlish from the rabbit Warren, 
his sidekick, Dave Naylor t'other side of the Moor often cannot be found, 
Nick 'the Otter' Gardner always building a damn for himself and several east 
& West Dorset types who try to be part of the cult.

ANY OFFENCE CAUSED IS NOT INTENDED

regards
Dave R

"Dave R."  wrote in message 
news:H5-dnUxWZYaW6-rVRVnyiwA@posted.plusnet...
> Oh my This is a terribly grim place. The weather is normally abysmal. The 
> people are either locals who hate you setting foot in the county or ex 
> Londoners who bought up all the pokey little cottages which tends to be 
> ideally stereotypical and everyone hates them for sure. The pubs are 
> distantly unfriendly to tourists (locals are welcomed) and the proprieters 
> glare at you as though you come from outer space. The panorama is nothing, 
> not a patch, on the scale of Snowdonia or most of beautiful Scotland.  Its 
> overrun with with hikers and cars because the region isn't THAT large. 
> Over rated theres nothing there when you need it but IS perhaps when you 
> dont, like a crappy roadside disgustingly fatty burger trailer with 
> overpriced teas except in central Exeter but then I expect thats how it 
> should be.To cap it all you have Will Hand head local chief in command 
> senior water dowser and Meteorological Self Healer, Paul Dawlish from the 
> rabbit Warren, his sidekick, Dave Naylor t'other side of the Moor often 
> cannot be found, Nick 'the Otter' Gardner always building a damn for 
> himself and several east & West Dorset types who try to be part of the 
> cult.
>
> ANY OFFENCE CAUSED IS NOT INTENDED
>
> regards
> Dave R
--------------------
Well I like it and don't have any of your problems when I go there.

...... uk.sport.cricket is quite a good site for racism :-(

Dave, S.Essex

"Dave Cornwell"  wrote in message 
news:KkLdk.284691$aE7.144229@newsfe16.ams2...
>
> "Dave R."  wrote in message 
> news:H5-dnUxWZYaW6-rVRVnyiwA@posted.plusnet...
>> Oh my This is a terribly grim place. The weather is normally abysmal. The 
>> people are either locals who hate you setting foot in the county or ex 
>> Londoners who bought up all the pokey little cottages which tends to be 
>> ideally stereotypical and everyone hates them for sure. The pubs are 
>> distantly unfriendly to tourists (locals are welcomed) and the 
>> proprieters glare at you as though you come from outer space. The 
>> panorama is nothing, not a patch, on the scale of Snowdonia or most of 
>> beautiful Scotland.  Its overrun with with hikers and cars because the 
>> region isn't THAT large. Over rated theres nothing there when you need it 
>> but IS perhaps when you dont, like a crappy roadside disgustingly fatty 
>> burger trailer with overpriced teas except in central Exeter but then I 
>> expect thats how it should be.To cap it all you have Will Hand head local 
>> chief in command senior water dowser and Meteorological Self Healer, Paul 
>> Dawlish from the rabbit Warren, his sidekick, Dave Naylor t'other side of 
>> the Moor often cannot be found, Nick 'the Otter' Gardner always building 
>> a damn for himself and several east & West Dorset types who try to be 
>> part of the cult.
>>
>> ANY OFFENCE CAUSED IS NOT INTENDED
>>
>> regards
>> Dave R
> --------------------
> Well I like it and don't have any of your problems when I go there.
>
> ...... uk.sport.cricket is quite a good site for racism :-(
>
> Dave, S.Essex

Well, I dont live in the SW, but wish that I did. It has got to be better 
than Reading.
Just for info Dave R, I do find your article offensive and not amusing in 
the slightest.
Why bother to prodiuce such a rant, when you knew that it would cause 
offence to some?
Looks as though you are heading for the 'blocked senders folder'.
Pity, because sometimes you do have something sensible to say regarding the 
weather.

Eric, Reading

>

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 at 16:52:11, Dave Cornwell 
 wrote in uk.sci.weather :

>Well I like it and don't have any of your problems when I go there.
>
>...... uk.sport.cricket is quite a good site for racism :-(

Not our friend Robert Henderson, surely. :)
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:$rEWQMbf54dIFwXo@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 at 16:52:11, Dave Cornwell 
>  wrote in uk.sci.weather :
>
>>Well I like it and don't have any of your problems when I go there.
>>
>>...... uk.sport.cricket is quite a good site for racism :-(
>
> Not our friend Robert Henderson, surely. :)
> -- 
You might think that but...........   ;-)

Ha! Hmmm, amusing.

>>The panorama is nothing, not a patch, on the scale of Snowdonia or most of 
>>beautiful Scotland.

Now that is one thing that Dartmoor has got; Dartmoor exudes panoramic 
views, see here:
http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/RoughTor068ssmall.jpg

And after spending many weekends walking on Dartmoor I can say that is has 
some of the finest ancient oak woodlands in the British Isles.
http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/RoughTor095small.jpg

Dartmoor also has stunning wooded valleys, some of the best I have ever 
seen:
http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/LustleighCleeve067.jpg

And beautiful river valleys aplenty:
http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/LustleighCleeve064.jpg

Plus a history spanning back 1000s of years of settlements, stones circles 
and mining:
http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/Dartmoor024.jpg

I've only been exploring Dartmoor for a couple of years now but the variety 
and rugged beauty of the place makes it very special, and quite unlike 
anywhere else. Dartmoor was also voted the number one natural wonder of the 
South West, beating even the Jurassic Coast.

Dave, methinks you could be a little envious......

Sunshine and beefy showers here today. A max of 20.3°C.
________________
Nick.
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

>
> Sunshine and beefy showers here today. A max of 20.3°C.
> ________________
> Nick.
> Otter Valley, Devon
> 83 m amslhttp://www.ottervalley.co.uk

No showers here - just the sunny spells.

Smug of Penzance (Mind you Wednesday was something else)

"Eric Belton"  wrote in message 
news:48778bb2$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>

>>
>> Dave, S.Essex
>
> Well, I dont live in the SW, but wish that I did. It has got to be better 
> than Reading.
> Just for info Dave R, I do find your article offensive and not amusing in 
> the slightest.
> Why bother to prodiuce such a rant, when you knew that it would cause 
> offence to some?
> Looks as though you are heading for the 'blocked senders folder'.
> Pity, because sometimes you do have something sensible to say regarding 
> the weather.

He fancies himself as the group joker, unfortunately he has none of
the wit, charm and humour Lawrence had.
-- 
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Col"  wrote in message 
news:4877ae75$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> "Eric Belton"  wrote in message 
> news:48778bb2$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>
>>>
>>> Dave, S.Essex
>>
>> Well, I dont live in the SW, but wish that I did. It has got to be better 
>> than Reading.
>> Just for info Dave R, I do find your article offensive and not amusing in 
>> the slightest.
>> Why bother to prodiuce such a rant, when you knew that it would cause 
>> offence to some?
>> Looks as though you are heading for the 'blocked senders folder'.
>> Pity, because sometimes you do have something sensible to say regarding 
>> the weather.
>
> He fancies himself as the group joker, unfortunately he has none of
> the wit, charm and humour Lawrence had.
> -- 
> Col
>
> Bolton, Lancashire
> 160m asl
------------------------
Indeed - will he make a winter comeback?
Dave
>
>

Beautiful set of photos
Peter J

"Nick Gardner"  wrote in message 
news:4ICdnbrjaoj6PerVRVnyhAA@bt.com...
> Ha! Hmmm, amusing.
>
>>>The panorama is nothing, not a patch, on the scale of Snowdonia or most 
>>>of beautiful Scotland.
>
> Now that is one thing that Dartmoor has got; Dartmoor exudes panoramic 
> views, see here:
> http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/RoughTor068ssmall.jpg
>
> And after spending many weekends walking on Dartmoor I can say that is has 
> some of the finest ancient oak woodlands in the British Isles.
> http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/RoughTor095small.jpg
>
> Dartmoor also has stunning wooded valleys, some of the best I have ever 
> seen:
> http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/LustleighCleeve067.jpg
>
> And beautiful river valleys aplenty:
> http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/LustleighCleeve064.jpg
>
> Plus a history spanning back 1000s of years of settlements, stones circles 
> and mining:
> http://www.btinternet.com/~nickgardner/devonweather/images/dartmoor/Dartmoor024.jpg
>
> I've only been exploring Dartmoor for a couple of years now but the 
> variety and rugged beauty of the place makes it very special, and quite 
> unlike anywhere else. Dartmoor was also voted the number one natural 
> wonder of the South West, beating even the Jurassic Coast.
>
> Dave, methinks you could be a little envious......
>
> Sunshine and beefy showers here today. A max of 20.3°C.
> ________________
> Nick.
> Otter Valley, Devon
> 83 m amsl
> http://www.ottervalley.co.uk
>

Dave R. wrote:
> Oh my This is a terribly grim place. The weather is normally abysmal. 
> The people are either locals who hate you setting foot in the county or 
> ex Londoners who bought up all the pokey little cottages which tends to 
> be ideally stereotypical and everyone hates them for sure. The pubs are 
> distantly unfriendly to tourists (locals are welcomed) and the 
> proprieters glare at you as though you come from outer space. The 
> panorama is nothing, not a patch, on the scale of Snowdonia or most of 
> beautiful Scotland.  Its overrun with with hikers and cars because the 
> region isn't THAT large. Over rated theres nothing there when you need 
> it but IS perhaps when you dont, like a crappy roadside disgustingly 
> fatty burger trailer with overpriced teas except in central Exeter but 
> then I expect thats how it should be.To cap it all you have Will Hand 
> head local chief in command senior water dowser and Meteorological Self 
> Healer, Paul Dawlish from the rabbit Warren, his sidekick, Dave Naylor 
> t'other side of the Moor often cannot be found, Nick 'the Otter' Gardner 
> always building a damn for himself and several east & West Dorset types 
> who try to be part of the cult.
> 
> ANY OFFENCE CAUSED IS NOT INTENDED
> 
> regards
> Dave R


If you want depressingly grim and terrible come to Wolverhampton!

It has shootings, stabbings, chavs, and illegal immigrants.  Most of the 
city is taken up by chav council estates.   It as a  1970's town centre 
that tries to pretend to be a modern 21st century city centre.  There’s 
new pavements and lampposts but most of the buildings are from the first 
half of the C20th.  The newest shops in the city centre are shopping 
centres that were built in the 1960's .  There's nothing of note, the 
University is near the bottom of the league table, it should be called a 
polytechnic at most.  There's no modern new buildings towering toward 
heaven.  The old buildings are dilapidated and dirty.  No prestigious 
entertainment halls. No luxury  hotels.  Our Global and national renown 
manufacturing industries have all but gone.

WHY DO I LIVE IN THIS DAMN CITY !!!!!

On Jul 11, 5:34 pm, "Eric Belton"  wrote:
> "Dave Cornwell"  wrote in message
>
> news:KkLdk.284691$aE7.144229@newsfe16.ams2...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Dave R."  wrote in message
> >news:H5-dnUxWZYaW6-rVRVnyiwA@posted.plusnet...
> >> Oh my This is a terribly grim place. The weather is normally abysmal. The
> >> people are either locals who hate you setting foot in the county or ex
> >> Londoners who bought up all the pokey little cottages which tends to be
> >> ideally stereotypical and everyone hates them for sure. The pubs are
> >> distantly unfriendly to tourists (locals are welcomed) and the
> >> proprieters glare at you as though you come from outer space. The
> >> panorama is nothing, not a patch, on the scale of Snowdonia or most of
> >> beautiful Scotland.  Its overrun with with hikers and cars because the
> >> region isn't THAT large. Over rated theres nothing there when you need it
> >> but IS perhaps when you dont, like a crappy roadside disgustingly fatty
> >> burger trailer with overpriced teas except in central Exeter but then I
> >> expect thats how it should be.To cap it all you have Will Hand head local
> >> chief in command senior water dowser and Meteorological Self Healer, Paul
> >> Dawlish from the rabbit Warren, his sidekick, Dave Naylor t'other side of
> >> the Moor often cannot be found, Nick 'the Otter' Gardner always building
> >> a damn for himself and several east & West Dorset types who try to be
> >> part of the cult.
>
> >> ANY OFFENCE CAUSED IS NOT INTENDED
>
> >> regards
> >> Dave R
> > --------------------
> > Well I like it and don't have any of your problems when I go there.
>
> > ...... uk.sport.cricket is quite a good site for racism :-(
>
> > Dave, S.Essex
>
> Well, I dont live in the SW, but wish that I did. It has got to be better
> than Reading.
> Just for info Dave R, I do find your article offensive and not amusing in
> the slightest.
> Why bother to prodiuce such a rant, when you knew that it would cause
> offence to some?
> Looks as though you are heading for the 'blocked senders folder'.
> Pity, because sometimes you do have something sensible to say regarding the
> weather.
>
> Eric, Reading
>
>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh Dave! Mr. Perennially Grumpy! That personal raincloud continues to
rain on you, doesn't it? *>)) I wish you good weather this weekend and
a super day on Monday!

Paul

"Peter"  wrote in message
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> Beautiful set of photos
> Peter J

Yes, I was thinking the same, right up there with Ian Collins' efforts.

Jon.

"Eric Belton"  wrote in message 
news:48778bb2$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Just for info Dave R, I do find your article offensive and not amusing in 
> the slightest.

Hmmm Eric seems quite touchy then? and he's not even from there, as for the 
rest well they don't really care much it seems at my rants.

> Why bother to prodiuce such a rant, when you knew that it would cause 
> offence to some?
I was bored as hell

> Looks as though you are heading for the 'blocked senders folder'.
> Eric, Reading

well its not much of an imposistion is that. Look after yourself Eric. be 
good.

Dave R

On Jul 11, 4:02 pm, "Dave R."  wrote:
> Oh my This is a terribly grim place. The weather is normally abysmal. The
> people are either locals who hate you setting foot in the county or ex
> Londoners who bought up all the pokey little cottages which tends to be
> ideally stereotypical and everyone hates them for sure. The pubs are
> distantly unfriendly to tourists (locals are welcomed) and the proprieters
> glare at you as though you come from outer space. The panorama is nothing> not a patch, on the scale of Snowdonia or most of beautiful Scotland.  Its
> overrun with with hikers and cars because the region isn't THAT large. Over
> rated theres nothing there when you need it but IS perhaps when you dont,
> like a crappy roadside disgustingly fatty burger trailer with overpriced
> teas except in central Exeter but then I expect thats how it should be.To
> cap it all you have Will Hand head local chief in command senior water
> dowser and Meteorological Self Healer, Paul Dawlish from the rabbit Warren,
> his sidekick, Dave Naylor t'other side of the Moor often cannot be found,
> Nick 'the Otter' Gardner always building a damn for himself

Oh dear, I seem to have started something.


     and several east
> & West Dorset types who try to be part of the cult.

Are you *quite* sure of that?


> ANY OFFENCE CAUSED IS NOT INTENDED

Infirm of purpose!  (Macbeth)


Tudor Hughes

Jimmy Mullen was a hero of mine in my early days.
I would have moved to Wolverhampton, but my father used to take me to watch 
Derby County then.
Peter J

"Joe Egginton"  wrote in message 
news:6dprbmF3rdgiU1@mid.individual.net...
> If you want depressingly grim and terrible come to Wolverhampton!
>
> It has shootings, stabbings, chavs, and illegal immigrants.  Most of the 
> city is taken up by chav council estates.   It as a  1970's town centre 
> that tries to pretend to be a modern 21st century city centre.  There’s 
> new pavements and lampposts but most of the buildings are from the first 
> half of the C20th.  The newest shops in the city centre are shopping 
> centres that were built in the 1960's .  There's nothing of note, the 
> University is near the bottom of the league table, it should be called a 
> polytechnic at most.  There's no modern new buildings towering toward 
> heaven.  The old buildings are dilapidated and dirty.  No prestigious 
> entertainment halls. No luxury  hotels.  Our Global and national renown 
> manufacturing industries have all but gone.
>
> WHY DO I LIVE IN THIS DAMN CITY !!!!!

Dave R. wrote:

> Oh my This is a terribly grim place. The weather is normally abysmal. The
> people are either locals who hate you setting foot in the county or ex
> Londoners who bought up all the pokey little cottages which tends to be
> ideally stereotypical and everyone hates them for sure. The pubs are
> distantly unfriendly to tourists (locals are welcomed) and the proprieters
> glare at you as though you come from outer space.

I bet you get that response wherever you go - at least when they get to know
you for the ignorant bore that you are.

Say hello to my kill-file.

-- 
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK.  E-mail: newsman not newsboy