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date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:09:36 -0800 (PST),    group: uk.sci.misc        back       
Mike Huckabee's Magical Beliefs   
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) -- Republican presidential
    candidate Mike Huckabee, a Southern Baptist
    preacher who has surged in Iowa with evangelical
    Christian support, bristled Tuesday when asked if
    creationism should be taught in public schools.
    Huckabee -- who raised his hand at a debate last
    May when asked which candidates disbelieved the
    theory of evolution -- asked this time why there
    is such a fascination with his beliefs.

Maybe because if he believes God has told him he
should be the instrument to bring about The End of
The World ... maybe we might want to know that...?

    ''I believe God created the heavens and the
    Earth,'' ''I wasn't there when he did it, so how
    he did it, I don't know,'' Huckabee said. But he
    expressed frustration that he is asked about it so
    often, arguing with the questioner that it
    ultimately doesn't matter what his personal views
    are.

I wish somebody might ask Hucklebuck whether
he believes in Leprechauns. And if he doesn't,
could he then explain why he believes in some
supernatural creature and not in others... because
this has always baffled me: It seems to me that if I
believed in any supernatural creatures I would
believe in them all. After all, "One magical rabbit is
just as good as every other magical rabbit." And,
certainly a lot many more people have seen and
talked with leprechauns than with gods!

  About the only people who still talk with God
  these days are those preachers who say things
  like, "Me and God were in the Jacuzzi the other
  day and He said to me: 'Tell my people to give you
  all their money so you can build My House... where
  in I will dwell when I return to earth. And,
  meanwhile, of course, you can live in there until
  I return and have the use on my BMW and shit--"

Now, why anyone would stop at believing in just some
magical creatures and not in as many as are imagined
is a profound mystery to me. There are photographs
of pixies, millions have been bitten by werewolves
AND vampires, thousands of Irishmen drink with their
Leprechauns in pubs every day, so why this refusal
to go all the way, baby? Strange, very strange.

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://mp3.sdrodrian.com

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.

***************************************
On Dec 5, 7:57 pm, "Doorman"  wrote:

> Just the fact there are extinct animals, and that
> there are multiple variations within species, proves
> evolution is real.  It may well have started by
> intervention of a force foreign to us, but plants
> and animals have evolved.

You're wasting your time: The superstitious
do not understand the difference between
"proofs" and "beliefs." Look at the following
quote:

>    You appear to believe in the theory of
>    evolution. How can you then not believe
>    in all theories, including the theory of
>    creationism?

You can say to such persons: "'Beliefs' don't
require 'proofs.'" But they will just fire back
that 'proofs' require 'belief.' And then you will
get into some innate/insane argument which
will only serve to prove that while it is possible
to argue the facts, it's pointless to argue with
persons who literally can/and sometimes do
believe anything/nothing strictly according to
their will or lack of same, or mischievousness.

Pray that we shall 'evolve' a better educational
system out of the fear to not be left (alongside
the wretched Muslims) behind by the unforgiving
advance of civilization.

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://mp3s.sdrodrian.com

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.
date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:09:36 -0800 (PST)   author:   sdr

Re: Mike Huckabee's Magical Beliefs   
On Dec 5, 10:09 pm, sdr  wrote:

> Pray that we shall 'evolve' a better educational
> system out of the fear to not be left (alongside
> the wretched Muslims) behind by the unforgiving
> advance of civilization.

How about you pray the politics "evolves" into a more honest and
serviceable system.  So let me see if I've got this right. The Theory
of Evolution is fact beyond all doubt and there are NO as in ZERO data
discovered anywhere that is at odds with this theory, right? And that
is why you accept it as the "random" basis of your religion of
atheistic beliefs.  As a person of science, I wonder how you got so
far off the track as to accept blind faith over scientific data?  Next
I presume you'll be telling us that politics "evolves" by random
"selection" and that the beliefs of FDR that "nothing ever happens by
chance in politics" should be banned from schools under the
"separation of church and state".

You belong in the dark ages, not as a spokesman for science or
"civilization"!
date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:49:54 -0800 (PST)   author:   Benj

Re: Mike Huckabee's Magical Beliefs   
On Dec 8, 1:49 pm, Benj  wrote:
> On Dec 5, 10:09 pm, sdr  wrote:
>
> > Pray that we shall 'evolve' a better educational
> > system out of the fear to not be left (alongside
> > the wretched Muslims) behind by the unforgiving
> > advance of civilization.
>
> How about you pray the politics "evolves" into a more honest and
> serviceable system.  So let me see if I've got this right. The Theory
> of Evolution is fact beyond all doubt and there are NO as in ZERO data
> discovered anywhere that is at odds with this theory, right? And that
> is why you accept it as the "random" basis of your religion of
> atheistic beliefs.  As a person of science, I wonder how you got so
> far off the track as to accept blind faith over scientific data?  Next
> I presume you'll be telling us that politics "evolves" by random
> "selection" and that the beliefs of FDR that "nothing ever happens by
> chance in politics" should be banned from schools under the
> "separation of church and state".
>
> You belong in the dark ages, not as a spokesman for science or
> "civilization"!

Do you believe in the tooth fairy too?
date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 13:40:03 -0800 (PST)   author:   RP

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