What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?

by Dr. Anders Bruun Laursen
.
Global Research, August 20, 2009 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14851

There seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about the technical nature of 
Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccines.

As a medical doctor, I wish to clarify a number of improtant issues: First, 
we should talk about vaccines instead of vaccine, since the vaccines vary as 
for their compositions and even their ways of being dispensed: some by 
injection, another by the nose.

I think the fears as for the vaccines can be referred to:

1. the adjuvants - in particular squalene which was in all probability 
responsible for the Gulf War syndrome,

2. the virus antigen´s condition (dead, attenuated, live)

3. a deeply rooted mistrust in our politicians and the vaccine producers´ 
motives and morals: e.g. Baxter´s live bird flu virus last Winter (12), the 
Bayer AIDS haemophiliac product scandal (15).

First it is necessary to understand, that pandemic vaccines are made 
according to two procedures:

1. The Developement of a totally new vaccine from scratch. This takes more 
time, administration and testing than mock up vaccines (see below).

2. A Mock-up vaccine is a vaccine with all the adjuvants of the pandemic 
vaccine - but without the killed or attenuated pandemic virus. (1) This 
virus is - until the pandemic virus is known - a different, attenuated known 
potentially pandemic virus, in the case of the Pandemrix vaccine for the EU 
it is an attenuated H5N1 bird flu virus. This is the mock-up vaccine. When 
the nature of the pandemic swine flu virus (H1N1) is known, it replaces the 
H5N1 virus in an attenuated form, the adjuvants being left unchanged.

Until now mock-up vaccine test-vaccinations have been going on on 
voluntary "human guinea pigs." Since most of the contents of the vaccine has 
already been approved, the approval of the pandemic vaccine is easier to 
implement.

After the exchange of virus in the vaccine, the company will have to apply 
for a "variation". However, this is just a matter of form, since such a 
variation approval is given by the EU within 5 days - which means that there 
is no objective testing of the vaccine requiring official approval. The 
safety is entirely left to the vaccine producer, who has been granted 
immunity to actions of damages due to expected side effects (2).

So, as you see, there is no confusion with regard to swine flu and bird flu 
viruses. But there is another important consideration: the role of squalene.

The average quantity of squalene injected into the US soldiers abroad and at 
home in the anthrax vaccine during and after the Gulf War was 34.2 
micrograms per billion micrograms of water. According to one study, this was 
the cause of the Gulf War syndrome in 25% of 697.000 US personnel at home 
and abroad. (3). You can find this table of FDA analyses from the Gulf War 
lots on The Military Vaccine Resource Directory website (4)

a.. AVA 020 - 11 ppb squalene (parts per billion)
> b.. AVA 030 - 10 ppb squalene
> c.. AVA 038 - 27 ppb squalene
> d.. AVA 043 - 40 ppb squalene
> e.. AVA 047 - 83 ppb squalene

These values were confirmed by Prof. R. F. Garry (5) before the House of 
Representatives. Prof Garry was the man to discover the connection between 
the Gulf War syndrome and squalene.

According to his findings, the Gulf War syndrome was caused by squalene, 
which was banned by a Federal Court Judge in 2004 from the Pentagon´s use. 
(6)

As seen on p. 6 of this EMEA document (7), the Pandremix vaccine contains 
10,68 mg of squalene per 0,5 ml. This corresponds to 2.136.0000 microgrammes 
pr. billion microgrammes of water, i.e. one million times more squalene per 
dose than in (4). There is any reason to believe that this will make people 
sick to a much higher extent than in 1990/91. This appears murderous to me.

I have contacted the Danish National Health Service: They are to decree mass 
vaccinations in Denmark - and yet they knew nothing about the composition of 
the Pandremix vaccine.

Then I addressed the Danish Medicinal Agency. They admitted that the 
Pandremix vaccine from GlaxoSmithKline does contain squalene and thimerosal. 
They have not rejected my remark that the squalene concentration is 
dangerous. In contrast, the AstraZeneca MedImmune nasal vaccination (8) 
avoids squalene side effects.

So far the use of squalene has been banned by the FDA in the US according to 
Der Spiegel (9). However, this may not last long (10).

"Clearly bypassing the FDA requirements for safety testing of these new 
adjuvants and the vaccines which contain them puts the entire population at 
risk for serious, possibly life threatening side effects, particularly any 
of the 12,000 paid trial participants (6,000 children) who are unfortunate 
enough to be randomized into the adjuvant containing groups."

Still, on July 23, 2009, the FDA announced, "Currently, no U.S. licensed 
vaccine contains the adjuvants MF-59 or ASO3 (squalene). It is expected that 
a novel influenza A (H1N1) vaccine manufactured using the same process as 
U.S. licensed seasonal inactivated influenza vaccine but administered with 
MF-59 or ASO3 will be authorized for emergency use only."

Furthermore, "Two of the manufacturers (Novartis and GSK) have proprietary 
oil-in-water adjuvants (MF-59 and ASO3, respectively) which have been 
evaluated in a number of clinical studies including studies with influenza 
vaccines. These manufacturers will include an evaluation of the utility of 
the adjuvant for dose sparing and higher effect in their clinical studies."

"The same document indicates that vaccines containing the un-approved 
adjuvants will be given to 100 children 6 months to 3 years old, 100 
children 3 years old to 8 years, 100 individuals 18 to 64 years old and 100 
individuals 65 and older in each of the multiple clinical trials. In 
addition, 700 individuals in each trial will be given non-adjuvanted 
vaccine".

Now for the immunological side effects of squalene to occur takes months to 
years - and cannot be evaluated after up to 6 weeks of observation. Der 
Spiegel (9) calls the mass vaccinations on Europeans a gigantic cost free 
experiment to provide the FDA with mass vaccination experience to clear the 
track for sale in the US.

EMEA admits that side effects can only be found through extensive 
vaccination campaigns! (1).

Here is what EMEA (4) has to say about risks of GSK Pandemrix:

EMEAs Pandemrix is commonly or very commonly associated with a range of 
local and systemic adverse reactions but these are not often of severe 
intensity and the safety profile would not preclude the use of the vaccine 
in healthy adults aged 18-60 years or > 60 years.

However, there are some adverse reactions known to be very rarely associated 
with influenza vaccines and it is currently not possible to predict if 
higher rates might be observed with Pandemrix compared with, for example, 
seasonal influenza vaccines.

Dr Keiji Fukuda, the WHO's flu chief, today warned about the potential 
dangers of the untested vaccine (11): "There are certain areas where you 
simply do not try to make any economies. One of the things which cannot be 
compromised is the safety of vaccines."

Which is exactly what is going on!

What I do not know is, if they are going to leave the attenuated (or live - 
Baxter (12)) bird flu vaccine - or to totally replace it by the H1N1 virus.

Other severe, but rare side effects are autism in children due to thimerosal 
(13) and the Guillan-Barré syndrome seen with 400-500 Americans after the 
1976 unnecessary mass vaccinations against swine flu (14) - videos. As for 
additional severe side effects of squalene - see Stephen Lendman (15).

My advice: If you are forced to be vaccinated against the harmless swine flu 
(H1N1) - demand a vaccination with the AstraZeneca nasal vaccine MedImmune 
(8)- thereby avoiding squalene side effects.

References
(1) EMEA
http://www.emea.europa.eu/pdfs/human/pandemicinfluenza/PandemicVaccines_Q&A_46147609en.pdf
(2) Global Research 20 July
 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14453
(3 Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome
(4) The Military Vaccine Resource Directory
http://www.mvrd.org/showpage.cfm?ID=69 .
(5) Statement for Hearing Record, The House Subcommittee on National 
Security, Veterans Affairs, and International Relations
http://www.autoimmune.com/SubcommitteeRFGarry24Jan02.html
(6)  Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome
(7) EMEA 
http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/PDFs/EPAR/pandemrix/H-832-en6.pdf
(8) Reuters 
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssHealthcareNews/idUSL11997420090601
(9) Der Spiegel 
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,640853-2,00.html
(10) Your Spine 
http://www.yourspine.com/Chiropractic/Swine+Flu+Squalene+Adjuvant.aspx
(11) The London Evening Standard
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23724398-details/Vaccine+for+swine+flu+may+be+unsafe+warns+WHO/article.do

(12) The Toronto Sun 
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html
(13) Global Research 23 July, 2009 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14510
(14) Video 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFcnneAqnTM

Video 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Bvf9AaC-4
(15) Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs
(13) Global Research 23 July 2009 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14510
(14) 1. video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFcnneAqnTM 2. video 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Bvf9AaC-4
(15) Stephen Lendman, Global Research, 10 June, 2009 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13925
Surveys can be seen here http://euro-med.dk/?p=9152 and here 
http://euro-med.dk/?p=9895

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:55:49 +0100, "john"  wrote:

>
>
>What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?

Clear answer: all those who spread fear against the vaccination. Because it is
them who cause dead.

-- 
                   Homöopathisches Akutmittel bei Asthma 

                  http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_akut.htm

> >What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>
> Clear answer: all those who spread fear against the vaccination. Because it is
> them who cause dead.



BULL SCHIT!

On Aug 27, 8:42 pm, Kevysmom  wrote:
> > >What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>
> > Clear answer: all those who spread fear against the vaccination. Because it is
> > them who cause dead.
>
> BULL SCHIT!

Correct. John posted bull shit.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:42:04 -0700 (PDT), Kevysmom  wrote:

>
>> >What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>>
>> Clear answer: all those who spread fear against the vaccination. Because it is
>> them who cause dead.
>
>BULL SCHIT!

Seems, Kevymom got caught here... 

-- 
                   Homöopathisches Akutmittel bei Asthma 

                  http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_akut.htm

john wrote:
> What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
> 
> by Dr. Anders Bruun Laursen
> .
> Global Research, August 20, 2009 
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14851
> 
> There seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about the technical nature of 
> Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccines.
> 
> As a medical doctor, I wish to clarify a number of improtant issues: First, 
> we should talk about vaccines instead of vaccine, since the vaccines vary as 
> for their compositions and even their ways of being dispensed: some by 
> injection, another by the nose.
> 
> I think the fears as for the vaccines can be referred to:
> 
> 1. the adjuvants - in particular squalene which was in all probability 
> responsible for the Gulf War syndrome,

What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants. 
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.

The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.

Jeff

On Aug 27, 7:47 pm, Jeff  wrote:
> john wrote:
> > What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>
> > by Dr. Anders Bruun Laursen
> > .
> > Global Research, August 20, 2009
> >http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14851
>
> > There seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about the technical nature of
> > Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccines.
>
> > As a medical doctor, I wish to clarify a number of improtant issues: First,
> > we should talk about vaccines instead of vaccine, since the vaccines vary as
> > for their compositions and even their ways of being dispensed: some by
> > injection, another by the nose.
>
> > I think the fears as for the vaccines can be referred to:
>
> > 1. the adjuvants - in particular squalene which was in all probability
> > responsible for the Gulf War syndrome,
>
> What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants.http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>
> The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>
> Jeff- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

  So who is correct here. Who should we believe. Either there is or
there isnt going to be these adjuvants in the vaccine.

Once again amazing how so much information is on the internet. Can
both be right.

"Jeff"  wrote in message news:EGGlm.1203
>
> What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants. 
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>
> The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>
> Jeff

they lie 24/7

"We probed the CDC official further about this and he insisted that the hope 
of the gov't at this time is that the adjuvent-free version will be 
sufficient and they won't have to "resort" to going ahead with the licensing 
of the adjuvent version.   One of the enlightened women in my group went 
further to ask, "If that is so, then how do you explain the fact that $300 
million has been spent for the manufacture of the non-adjuvent version while 
over $758 million has been spent on the manufacture of the version that 
contains squalene.  The man couldn't answer the questioned, turned very red 
and soon after excused himself from the  room." 
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/feedback.html

"Jeff"  wrote in message news:EGGlm.1203
>
> What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants. 
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>
> The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>
> Jeff

PS: "the CDC lady says the vaccine being used in the clinical trials does 
NOT contain any adjuvant."  http://www.whale.to/vaccine/injecting.html

On Aug 27, 10:19�pm, Happy Oyster  wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:42:04 -0700 (PDT), Kevysmom  wrote:
>
> >> >What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>
> >> Clear answer: all those who spread fear against the vaccination. Because it is
> >> them who cause dead.
>
> >BULL SCHIT!
>
>  Kevymom

Is not the subject.

Jeffrey, Pter Utz, not kids doc still believes the CDC (ORGANIZED
MEDICINE). and the government.

How sad.

On Aug 27, 8:45�pm, Mark Probert  wrote:
> On Aug 27, 8:42�pm, Kevysmom  wrote:
>
> > > >What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>
> > > Clear answer: all those who spread fear against the vaccination. Because it is
> > > them who cause dead.
>
> > BULL SCHIT!
>
 This thread is not about John.  Furthermore, Donna was replying to
Yappy.

Butt out, and read your Torah, disbarred attorney.

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:07:30 -0700 (PDT), Jan Drew  wrote:

>On Aug 27, 10:19?pm, Happy Oyster  wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:42:04 -0700 (PDT), Kevysmom  wrote:
>>
>> >> >What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>>
>> >> Clear answer: all those who spread fear against the vaccination. Because it is
>> >> them who cause dead.
>>
>> >BULL SCHIT!
>>
>>  Kevymom
>
>Is not the subject.

Janet Mae Stidd, one of the big imposts here in usenet, SHE decides hat? 

She, the liar?

She, the person who stalks others for 10 years now?

She, who abuses the name of god?

She, who denies even she most simple facts?

She, who cannot even count to 2?


Just look at what happened in this news-group: 

 A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on 26.11.1946 born
 A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on 26.11.1947 1 year old
 A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on 26.11.1948 2 years old

According to Jan Drew that child would be born as a 1-year-old, and 1 year
later, it already would be 2 years old. 

Jan Drew even can't count to 2. 


If you don't believe that, look at the original, which was posted by Jan Drew: 

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:11:53 -0400, "Jan Drew"  wrote:

>
>[person who for years is stalked by Jan Drew] wrote in message 
>news:e5d4c9a4-edb6-429e-a95f-9b7fef936df5@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>On Jul 9, 8:51 pm, "Jan Drew"  wrote:
>> "Jan Drew"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:rzd5m.6677$kA.770@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Posted that Noah his son's birthday was 11/26/96 (my birthday).
>>
>> > He has numerous posts that are [person who for years is stalked by Jan Drew]
>>
>> > 2009- 1946 = 64 -in November. My math is not wrong.
>>
>> > Thus, [person who for years is stalked by Jan Drew] is a liar.
>
>Since November 2009 is in the future, I will not be 63 until then.
>
>You are amazingly stupid.
>
>November 26th 2009 is in 2009.
>2009-1946 YOU will be 64, not 63.  You are 63 now.  On November 26, 2009 you 
>will be 64.
>Period.
>
>Thanks for proving you are a liar again.
>And, I am correct.
[...]


What will Jan Drew claim next?

-- 
                   Homöopathisches Akutmittel bei Asthma 

                  http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_akut.htm

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:10:29 -0700 (PDT), Jan Drew  wrote:

>Jeffrey, Pter Utz, not kids doc still believes the CDC (ORGANIZED
>MEDICINE). and the government.
>
>How sad.

Janet Mae Stidd is a liar. How sad. 

Janet Mae Stidd denies that vaccination works. How sad. 

Here is a real sad story about a girl who died. She could not get the medicament
which could have saved her life. 


http://www.childalert.co.uk/absolutenm/templates/newstemplate.asp?articleid=291&zoneid=2

[*QUOTE*]
--------------------------------------------------------
MEASLES: A dangerous illness
by ROALD DAHL

Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - LivingwithKids Blog

[ZITATENDE]
.................................................................
Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. 

As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed
and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. 

Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on
her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners,
and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and
her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.

"Are you feeling all right?" I asked her. 

"I feel all sleepy,"  she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead. 

The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and
there was nothing the doctors could do to save her. 


That was twenty-four years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles
happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there
would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her. 

On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure
that this sort of tragedy does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist
that their child is immunised against measles. I was unable to do that for
Olivia in 1962 because in those days a reliable measles vaccine had not been
discovered. 

Today a good and safe vaccine is available to every family and all you have to
do is to ask your doctor to administer it. 

It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness.
Believe me, it is. 

In my opinion parents who now refuse to have their children immunised are
putting the lives of those children at risk. 

In America, where measles immunisation is compulsory, measles like smallpox, has
been virtually wiped out. 

Here in Britain, because so many parents refuse, either out of obstinacy or
ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunised, we still have a
hundred thousand cases of measles every year. 

Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another. 
At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections. 
About 20 will die. 

LET THAT SINK IN.

Every year around 20 children will die in Britain from measles. 

So what about the risks that your children will run from being immunised? They
are almost non-existent. 

Listen to this. In a district of around 300,000 people, there will be only one
child every 250 years who will develop serious side effects from measles
immunisation! That is about a million to one chance. 

I should think there would be more chance of your child choking to death on a
chocolate bar than of becoming seriously ill from a measles immunisation. So
what on earth are you worrying about? 

It really is almost a crime to allow your child to go unimmunised. 

The ideal time to have it done is at 13 months, but it is never too late. All
school-children who have not yet had a measles immunisation should beg their
parents to arrange for them to have one as soon as possible. 

Incidentally, I dedicated two of my books to Olivia, the first was "James and
the Giant Peach". That was when she was still alive. The second was "The BFG",
dedicated to her memory after she had died from measles. 

You will see her name at the beginning of each of these books. 

And I know how happy she would be if only she could know that her death had
helped to save a good deal of illness and death among other children.
.................................................................
[/ZITATENDE]


PLEASE NOTE:  this article was written some 23 years ago and as a result, the
numbers are significantly different to today, thanks to people taking his
advice. 

Death from measles is now uncommon in UK and the number of cases are down to
around 1500 per year. It is extremely important  to ensure that people are
encouraged to vaccinate to get these numbers even lower. The number of measles
has been rising in the last few years - we need more people to continue to take
Roald's advice.
--------------------------------------------------------
[*/QUOTE*]

More about that family:
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/list/141.php


Dying is no joke.



Without vaccination in Germany alone there would die 1:1000 to 1:500 children
EACH YEAR, that is 1:1000 to 1:500 of about 700.000 children. Makes 700 to 1400
dead children EACH YEAR. 

No vaccination for the children is equivalent to mass murder. 


In Germany alone each year about 1700 women die of a type of cancer, which could
in about 70 percent be prevented by the HPV vaccination. Each year that
vaccination alone would save about 1000 lives. 

-- 
                   Homöopathisches Akutmittel bei Asthma 

                  http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_akut.htm

"Jeff"  wrote in message news:EGGlm.1203
>
> What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants. 
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>
> The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>
> Jeff

http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2009pres/07/20090713b.html

Bulk Oil and Water Adjuvant

$71,400,000

$343,810,470

"Jeff"  wrote in message 
news:EGGlm.1203$5c6.2@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> john wrote:
>> What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>>
>> by Dr. Anders Bruun Laursen
>> .
>> Global Research, August 20, 2009 
>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14851
>>
>> There seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about the technical nature 
>> of Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccines.
>>
>> As a medical doctor, I wish to clarify a number of improtant issues: 
>> First, we should talk about vaccines instead of vaccine, since the 
>> vaccines vary as for their compositions and even their ways of being 
>> dispensed: some by injection, another by the nose.
>>
>> I think the fears as for the vaccines can be referred to:
>>
>> 1. the adjuvants - in particular squalene which was in all probability 
>> responsible for the Gulf War syndrome,
>
> What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants. 
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>
> The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>
> Jeff 
> Looks like ol Jeffy has brain fog again. Gets it from constipation.

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:34:08 -0500, "t"  wrote:



The Rise of Diseases caused by Homeopaths and Ayurvedes using Hg, like
Hydrargyrum bijodatum rubrum


On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:05:37 +0100, "john"  wrote:

>RE: "The Rise of Autoimmune and Other Diseases in Adults"
>
>Thimerosal/Merthiolate/Thiomersal(UK) has been being
>used to subacutely mercury-poison us all since the
>1930s!
>
>Before that, Calomel, mercurous chloride was the
>subacute mercury poison of choice from the late
>1800s to the 1920s.

...and the homeopaths still use mercury in a lot of very poisonous compounds. 

So we know *who* is actually responsible 
**********************************************
for "The Rise of Autoimmune and Other
**********************************************
Diseases in Adults": it is the homeopaths!
**********************************************


There even is a guy in Germany who said 
that mercury is safe BECAUSE it is used 
in ayurvedic medicaments. 


http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_rep1.htm
<quote>
Repertorium hydrargyrum
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Deutsche Homöopathie-Union . Karlsruhe 
Dort finden Sie (in der Ausgabe von 1994 ab Seite 318) ein "Register der
Hauptindikationen". 
Was stellen Sie fest?: Alle oben genannten Krankheiten/Beschwerden/Symptome
werden von Homöopathen mit Quecksilber
"behandelt"... 
Quecksilber, ein Gift, vor dem überall gewarnt wird, ausgerechnet QUECKSILBER
soll in Medikamenten sein? Ja, es ist. Leider. 
Überzeugen Sie sich selbst! 
Einen kleinen Hinweis möchte ich Ihnen bei der Suche nach dem Buch geben: 
Dieses Repetitorium 
ist nur zur Abgabe 
an Fachkreise bestimmt
Dieser Vermerk befindet sich auf der 2. Umschlagseite. 
Warum dieses? Vielleicht, weil die Patienten sonst dahinterkommen könnten, was
ihnen zugemutet wird? 
Im Detail handelt es sich um folgende Formen/Verbindungen von Quecksilber: 
(Die Seitenzahl bezieht sich auf die Ausgabe von 1994, aus der die Daten
entnommen sind)
(Hervorhebungen von mir) 
Tabelle 2 
Mercurius bijodatus 
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(Seite 202)
Mercurius jodatus ruber
Hydrargyrum bijodatum rubrum
Quecksilberjodid

HgJ2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3


Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1
SV Lösung = D3

Gebräuchliche Tabletten (Dil): D4, D6, D3
Gebräuchliche Ampullen       : D6, D8, D15

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung 
bei Anginen und Adnexitis.

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Organspezifizität 
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und 
Modalitäten :

Tonsillen, Adnexe, im übrigen wie bei Mercurius solubilis. 

Anginen im akuten und chronischen Stadium, besonders wenn die 
regionären Lymphdrüsen stark geschwollen sind. In diesem Fall 
gutes Unterstützungsmittel der Serumtherapie bei Diphterie. Bei 
chronischer Tonsillenhyperplasie täglich 2 Tabletten D4 für etwa 
6 Wochen. Ferner gut wirksam bei akuter und subakuter Adnexitis. 

AMB und Leitsymptome wie unter Mercurius solubilis (siehe dort).
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Mercurius cyanatus 
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(Seite 202)
Hydrargyrum cyanatum
Mercuricyanid
Quecksilbercyanid
Hg(CN)2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1
Lösung = D2

Gebräuchliche Tabletten (Dil): D6, D4
Gebräuchliche Ampullen       : D6

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung 
bei der malignen Diphterie oder Angina und deren Komplikationen.

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Organspezifizität 
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und 
Modalitäten :

Tonsillen und Mundhöhle, Leber und Nieren.

Mercurius cyanatus gehört zu den hochtoxischen Hg-Verbindungen. 
Neben der Serumtherapie ist es besonders zur zusätzlichen 
Behandlung bei Diphterie oder schwerer Angina zu empfehlen, 
wenn diese Krankheiten einen malignen Charakter mit starken 
Nekrosen oder Gangraeneszenz annehmen und offensichtlich auf 
die parenchymatösen Organe, besonders Leber und Niere, toxisch 
zu streuen scheinen. Vorsichtige Dosierung! Mercurius cyanatus D6 
genügt meist. Eventuell mit Lachesis Amp. D8 bis D12 oder 
Chinacea (Urtinktur) kombinieren. Das AMB entspricht im übrigen 
dem von Mercurius solubilis (siehe dort). 
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Mercurius dulcis 
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(Seite 202)
Calomel
Mercurius chloratus
Hydrargyrum chloratum
Quecksilberchlorür
Hg2Cl2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4,D3
Gebräuchliche Ampullen  : D8

Hepatopathie, Hepatitis, Cholecystitis, Ikterus, akute 
Gastoenteritis, Metalues.

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Organspezifizität 
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und 
Modalitäten :

Leber, gallenblase, Darm, Bindegewebe.

Mercurius dulcis ist bei passendem AMB (siehe unter Mercurius 
solubilis) besonders wirksam in der D4 - D6 bei den 
nebenstehenden Indikationen. Metaluetische Prozesse erfordern 
täglich 3mal 1 Tablette D2 in Kombination mit Kalium jodatum Dil 
D1 täglich 3mal 10 Tropfen. 
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Mercurius solubilis 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 204)
Mercurius solubilis Hahnemanni
Hydrargyrum oxydulatum nigrum Hahnemanni
Ein Gemenge, das im wesentlichen Mercuroamidonitrat = NH2Hg2NO3, 
metallisches Hg und Quecksilber(I)oxid Hg2O enthält.

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1


Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4, D6, D12, D3
Dil                     : D8
Gebräuchliche Ampullen  : D8, D10, D12, D15 und höher

Schleimhautentzündungen der Mundhöhle und des Magen-Darm-Kanals. 
Angina, Stomatitis, Gingivitis, chronische Rhinbitis und 
chronische Otitis med. Dysenterie, Colitis simplex et ulcerosa. 
Akute und chronische Entzündungen des gesamten lymphatischen 
Apparates. Pyodermie, Furunkulose, Skrofulose. Dermatitis und 
Dermatosen, chronische Bindegewebsaffektionen. Blepharo-
Konjunktivitis, Opthalmie. Periostitis, Knochenkaries. Sinusitis. 
Tendovaginitis, Pulpitis, Periodontitis. Hepatitis. Nephritis. 
Lues und deren Folgezustände, besonders Neurolues. Adnexitis, 
Metritis. 

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Organspezifizität 
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und 
Modalitäten 

ZNS, periphere Nerven, Drüsen, Knochen, Periost, alle 
Schleimhäute, Mastdarm, Haut, Bindegewebe, Zähne, Leber, Nieren, 
Augen. 

Akute Vergiftungssymptome: Metallgeschmack, Brennen, Schwellung 
und Geschwulstbildung im Munde, Speichelfluß, Zahnlockerung, 
Leberschwellung, ruhrartige Durchfälle mit Blut und Tenesmen. 
Albuminurie, Anurie, Kreislaufkollaps. 
Chronische Vergiftungssymptome: Psychisch ist die gesamte 
Symptomatologie der progr. Paralyse im AMB von Hg zu erkennen, 
einschließlich der fortschreitenden Demenz, der Schriftstörung, 
des Tremor mercurialis und Erethismus mercurialis. Kachexie, 
Kiefernekrose, Nephrocirrhose. Ostitis, Periostitis, hartnäckige, 
meist oberflächliche Hautulcerationen. Eitrige Bindehaut- und 
Hornhautentzündungen. 

Die wichtigsten Charakteristika sind:

1. Foetor ex ore und Speichelfluß.
2. Dick belegte, geschwollene, schrammige Zunge mit sichtbaren 
   Zahneindrücken.
3. Übelriechende, klebrige, gelbliche Nachtschweiße. 
4. Empfindlichkeit gegen kalte Luft und gegen Bettwärme. 
5. Alle entzündlichen Absonderungen sind ätzend, scharf und von 
   eitrigem Charakter. 
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Mercurius sublimatus corrosivus 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 204)
Mercurius corrosivus
Hydrargyrum bichloratum
Sublimat
Quecksilebrchlorid
HgCl2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 5a: Lösung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten (Dil): D6, D4

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung 
bei Dysenterie, Colitis, Stomatitis apthosa et ulcerosa, Angina, 
Sycosis simplex barbae.

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Organspezifizität 
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und 
Modalitäten :

Die pathologisch-anatomischen Beziehungen und die AM-Symptome 
entsprechen ganz denen von Mercurius solubilis. Bei Mercurius 
sublimatus corrosivus sind nur alle Symptome viel heftiger. In 
erster Linie bei den nebenstehend hervorgehobenen Indikationen zu 
verwenden. Bei Sycosis simplex äußerliche Betupfung mit Mercurius 
sublimatus corrosivus Dil. D4.
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Mercurius sulfuratus ruber 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 206)
siehe auch Cinnabaris
Hydrargyrum sulfuratum rubrum
Quecksilbersulfid
Zinnober

(wird allgemein als "Cinnabaris" rezeptiert)

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4, D3, D6

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung 
bei subakuter und chronischer Sinusitis.

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Organspezifizität 
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und 
Modalitäten :

Die pathologisch-anatomischen Beziehungen und die AM-Symptome 
entsprechen ganz denen von Mercurius solubilis. Es besteht jedoch 
eine bevorzugte Wirkung auf die subakuten und chronischen Entzü
ndungen der Nasen-Nebenhöhlen und der Nasenschleimhaut. "Druck an 
der Nasenwurzel" ist ein typisches Leitsymptom. Häufig ist die 
Kombination mit Kalium bichromic. D4 - D6 (siehe dort) angezeigt.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius vivus 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 206)
Hydargyrum
Quecksilber
Hg

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4

Entspricht vollkommen den Indikationen von Mercurius solubilis.

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Organspezifizität subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und Modalitäten :

Die pathologisch-anatomischen Beziehungen und die AM-Symptome 
entsprechen völlig denen von Mercurius solubilis. 
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Cinnabaris 
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Cinnabaris = rotes Quecksilbersulfid, 

Daten wie Mercurius sulfuratus ruber
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Ich will hier nicht weiter auf die einzelnen Verbindungen eingehen. Wichtig ist
bei ALLEN die angegebene Verdünnung: Beachten Sie, in
welch starker Dosierung es eingesetzt wird. Der Vermerk über die
"Verschreibungspflicht bis einschließlich D3" ist bei einem so starken
Gift wie Quecksilber der blanke Hohn. 

In der Tabelle 1 steht nichts über die jeweiligen Verdünnungen. Man darf also
die oben bei den Quecksilberverbindungen aufgeführten
Verdünnungen vermuten. Diese Verdünnungen sind aber in einem Bereich, wo
DEUTLICH meßbare Materialmengen an Gift enthalten
sind! 
In diesem Zusammenhang ein Hinweis auf die Arbeit von Fernsehredaktionen. 
Die Redaktion des "MDR TV: Hier ab vier -Ratgeber" des MDR hat eine Web-Site. Zu
einer Sendung, die anscheinend am 19.1.1999
ausgestrahlt wurde, heißt es in der auch heute noch (Datum 19.10.2001)
unveränderten Webseite (einschließlich Tippfehler) 
http://www.mdr.de/hier-ab-vier/ratgeber/inhalt_990119.html : 
(Hervorhebungen von mir) 
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<quote>
Krankheitsursachen in der Mundhöhle 

Herde (siehe oben), auch Eiterherde 
Energetische Störungen, die sich durch gestörte
Energieflüsse auf bestimmte Körperregionen
auswirken können, z.B. Zahn 7 oben oder unten auf
Lunge und Dickdarm, können aber auch Ausdruck
von übergeordneten Phänomenen sein z.B.
unbewältigte Traurigkeit, nichtgelebte Toleranz [1]
etc.etc. - Zähne als Grenzfläche für die Abweichung
vom richtigen Weg? Zumindest als Zeichen der
Auseinandersetzung zwischen Mensch und Umwelt. 
Handfester ist die Belastung durch Quecksilber aus
dem Amalgam, das inzwischen laut
wissenschaftlichen Gutachten (Kieler Gutachten
1997) für medizinisch und rechtlich bedenklich
gehalten wird. Amalgam vergiftet den Speichel, führt
zu einer Mundbatterie mit Stromproduktion und hat
jede Menge Nebenwirkungen. Nur - keiner liest den
Beipackzettel - es gibt ihn (so) nicht. Zitat: "Amalgam
gehört entweder in den Sondermüll oder in den Mund
des Menschen". Kleiner Auszug aus den möglichen
Nebenwirkungen: Zittern, erhöhte Erregbarkeit,
Gingivitis, Schilddrüsen- und Verdauungsstörungen,
Candida-Pilz-Belastungen, Depressionen,
Vergeßlichkeit, massives Schwitzen, Knötchenflechte
der Wangenschleimhaut, das Blutbild kann sich
verschlechtern und die Resistenz von Bakterien
entstehen. Teste: Kaugummi-Test, Urin-Test (Amtest
- Adresse, Tel. siehe unten). Auch andere
Zahn-Werkstoffe können toxische Belastungen
hervorrufen, allen voran das Edelmetall Palladium. 
Funktionelle Störungen entstehen durch
Disharmonien zwischen Kopfhaltung
(Halswirbelsäule) und Kiefergelenken, Zahnstellung
und Kaumuskulatur und durch falsches Kauen. 
Mundspüllösung: Listerine,
Dentaperfekt+ƒ-Mundwasser (mit CH 7),
Parodontitis-Behandlung mit St. Johanser
Matricell-Ampullen. 1 Ampulle in den Mund entleeren
und 10 Minuten im Mund bewegen, erst süß, dann
wirkt das Propolis antibakteriell und antientzündlich. 
Vorbeugung: Reichlich Kalzium aus der Nahrung
durch Wirsing, Broccoli, Mandeln, Grünkohl, nicht
nur durch Milch! Pflanzliches Calcium reicht aus. 
Mundgeruch: Entsteht durch Parodontose und
schlechte Darmregulation - Darm und Mund hängen
zusammen. 
Herztest: Prüft die Herzaktion und gibt per Computer
Auskunft über die Vitalität des Körpers und den
Schaden von z.B. Amalgam -
Reliability-Heart-Rate-Test, zeigt auch die Wirkung
der Behandlung. Sensationell einfache und sichere
Überprüfung von Gesundheitszustand und
Therapieerfolg. [2]

Wie erkennen Sie einen Herd in den Zähnen? 

Körperliche Beschwerden, die nicht zu erklären sind,
können ein Zahnstörfeld zur Ursache haben. 
Milchzahn im Erwachsenengebiß = immer ein
Störfeld 
Zähne beschliffen mit hochturbinigem Bohrer?
Vielleicht ein Störfeld. 
Schwäche oder Kollaps bei (nach) Zahnbehandlung. 
Zahn- und Kopfschmerzen zur gleichen Zeit. 

Ausleitung von Quecksilber, das zur
Unfruchtbarkeit und mannigfaltigen Krankheiten
(siehe oben) führen kann: 
Derivatio Ha - homöopathisches Komplexmittel [3]
Dentaperfektƒ Mundwasser vor und nach
Amalgam-Entfernung 
Zinkorotat (20 oder 40) 1x1 
Selen - homöopathisch z.B. D4/D6 
Mercusius solubilis hanemannii D6 30,0 + D12 15,0
+ D30 5,0 zusammen 50 ml, 3x10 Tropfen [4]

Achtung! Dies sind nur Möglichkeiten, alle
Behandlungen nur mit Arzt und Zahnarzt zusammen.
Endgültige Quecksilber-Ausleitungen können über 1
Jahr in Anspruch nehmen. 

Weitere Methoden: Koriander-Kraut, Chlorella-Alge,
Bioresonanz-Therapie; [5]

Merke: Jede Methode sollte im Einzelfall ausgetestet 
werden. [6]
</quote>
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Anmerkungen: 
[1]
"Energetische Störungen" ist typisches Vokabular der "alternativen"
"Heiler"-Szene. 
[2]
Die Aussagekraft dieses angeblichen Tests wage ich ganz entschieden zu
bezweifeln! 
[3]
"Ausleitung" mit homöopathischen Mitteln ist NICHT möglich! 
[4]
"Mercusius solubilis hanemannii D6 30,0 + D12 15,0
+ D30 5,0 zusammen 50 ml, 3x10 Tropfen [4]" 
50 Kubikzentimer einer Quecksilber-Lösung D6... 
[5]
Koriander-Kraut, Chlorella-Alge und "Bioresonanz"-"Therapie" sind
Schwindel-Verfahren. 
[6]
"Jede Methode sollte im Einzelfall ausgetestet werden." 
Das ist ein Kernsatz fast jeder Argumentation der "alternativen" "Heiler"-Szene.
Er enthält einen besonders hinterhältigen Trick,
angesetzt mit der Standard-Formel des "individuellen Eingehens" auf jeden
einzelnen Patienten: Der Patient denkt, daß man sich
seiner besonders schonend annimmt. 
In Wirklichkeit wird ihm durch diesen Trick eine ganze Serie von "Tests"
verkauft, die er natürlich bezahlen muß. Hilft der erste
Test nicht, dann vielleicht der zweite. Hilft der nicht, dann vielleicht der
dritte... Und so weiter... Im Nullkommanichts sind Kosten
von mehreren Hundert Mark, nicht selten sogar mehreren Tausend Mark aufgelaufen.
 


So ungeniert wird heute Quecksilber als Medikament angepriesen. Und verkauft...
Und angewendet... 
Auch bei Ihnen? 
Aribert Deckers 
 

PS: Erwähnen möchte ich auch dieses makabre Fundstück aus dem "Repertorium" der
Deutschen Homöopathie-Union, Karlsruhe: 
    Poliomyelitis: Aconit., Belladonna, Ferrum phosph., Gelsenium, 
                   Phosphor., Plumbum acet.

("Poliomyelitis", abgekürzt "Polio", ist Kinderlähmung...) 
hier geht's weiter !
[ Das Amalgam-Zentrum ]
Copyright © 2001
Aribert Deckers
and
Copyright © 2001
Antares Real-Estate
Jegliche Weiterverwendung der Texte der Amalgam-Page ist verboten.
Verlage dürfen sich wegen der Nachdruckrechte per Email an mich wenden.
Aribert Deckers
</quote>


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t wrote:
> "Jeff"  wrote in message 
> news:EGGlm.1203$5c6.2@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>> john wrote:
>>> What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>>>
>>> by Dr. Anders Bruun Laursen
>>> .
>>> Global Research, August 20, 2009 
>>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14851
>>>
>>> There seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about the technical nature 
>>> of Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccines.
>>>
>>> As a medical doctor, I wish to clarify a number of improtant issues: 
>>> First, we should talk about vaccines instead of vaccine, since the 
>>> vaccines vary as for their compositions and even their ways of being 
>>> dispensed: some by injection, another by the nose.
>>>
>>> I think the fears as for the vaccines can be referred to:
>>>
>>> 1. the adjuvants - in particular squalene which was in all probability 
>>> responsible for the Gulf War syndrome,
>> What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants. 
>> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>>
>> The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>>
>> Jeff 
>> Looks like ol Jeffy has brain fog again. Gets it from constipation. 
> 
> 

Rather than making personal attacks, why don't you provide information 
that shows I am incorrect?

"Jeff"  wrote in message 
news:kyRlm.6$Jd7.4@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>t wrote:
>> "Jeff"  wrote in message 
>> news:EGGlm.1203$5c6.2@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>>> john wrote:
>>>> What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>>>>
>>>> by Dr. Anders Bruun Laursen
>>>> .
>>>> Global Research, August 20, 2009 
>>>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14851
>>>>
>>>> There seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about the technical nature 
>>>> of Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccines.
>>>>
>>>> As a medical doctor, I wish to clarify a number of improtant issues: 
>>>> First, we should talk about vaccines instead of vaccine, since the 
>>>> vaccines vary as for their compositions and even their ways of being 
>>>> dispensed: some by injection, another by the nose.
>>>>
>>>> I think the fears as for the vaccines can be referred to:
>>>>
>>>> 1. the adjuvants - in particular squalene which was in all probability 
>>>> responsible for the Gulf War syndrome,
>>> What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants. 
>>> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>>>
>>> The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>>>
>>> Jeff Looks like ol Jeffy has brain fog again. Gets it from constipation.
>>
>>
>
> Rather than making personal attacks, why don't you provide information 
> that shows I am incorrect? 
> Why would one believe the CDC?

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:14:16 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
Jan Drew  wrote:

>On Aug 27, 8:45?pm, Mark Probert  wrote:
>> On Aug 27, 8:42?pm, Kevysmom  wrote:
>>
>> > > >What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>>
>> > > Clear answer: all those who spread fear against the vaccination. Because it is
>> > > them who cause dead.
>>
>> > BULL SCHIT!
>>
> This thread is not about John.  Furthermore, Donna was replying to
>Yappy.

Jan you seem to lack a general understanding that any thread is open
for anyone to comment upon it at any time. 

The suggestion that Donna or John or happy can't speak for themselves
lends credence that you are a control freak.

>Butt out, and read your Torah, disbarred attorney.

Do you know what a read herring is, Jan?


-- 
Bob Officer
Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au

"Bob Officer"  wrote in message 
news:rsfg95hh8nrr0aho85iucj3kdok2jhba96@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:14:16 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
> Jan Drew  wrote:
>
>>On Aug 27, 8:45?pm, Mark Probert  wrote:
>>> On Aug 27, 8:42?pm, Kevysmom  wrote:
>>>
>>> > > >What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>>>
>>> > > Clear answer: all those who spread fear against the vaccination. 
>>> > > Because it is
>>> > > them who cause dead.
>>>
>>> > BULL SCHIT!
>>>
>> This thread is not about John.  Furthermore, Donna was replying to
>>Yappy.
>
> Jan you seem to lack a general understanding that any thread is open
> for anyone to comment upon it at any time.
>
> The suggestion that Donna or John or happy can't speak for themselves
> lends credence that you are a control freak.
>
>>Butt out, and read your Torah, disbarred attorney.
>
> Do you know what a read herring is, Jan?
>
>
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                                             
       Wow! what a social reject. No wonder you are here all the time. Sad 
that you don't have anything better to do but I guess when you have no 
outside life you get a bit mentaly unhinged and need someplace to show it. 
Glad you are the one living your unfortunate life though. If it were not you 
some other less worthy person might have to take your place. Be sure to get 
your vacs.

Sam  wrote:

>On Aug 27, 7:47 pm, Jeff  wrote:
>> john wrote:
>> > What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>>
>> > by Dr. Anders Bruun Laursen
>> > .
>> > Global Research, August 20, 2009
>> >http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14851
>>
>> > There seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about the technical nature of
>> > Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccines.
>>
>> > As a medical doctor, I wish to clarify a number of improtant issues: First,
>> > we should talk about vaccines instead of vaccine, since the vaccines vary as
>> > for their compositions and even their ways of being dispensed: some by
>> > injection, another by the nose.
>>
>> > I think the fears as for the vaccines can be referred to:
>>
>> > 1. the adjuvants - in particular squalene which was in all probability
>> > responsible for the Gulf War syndrome,
>>
>> What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants.http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>>
>> The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>>
>> Jeff- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>  So who is correct here. Who should we believe. Either there is or
>there isnt going to be these adjuvants in the vaccine.

Sodium chloride is an adjuvant in chicken soup.

>
>Once again amazing how so much information is on the internet. Can
>both be right.

Could some alternauts please comment on these alternative medicine web
sites promoting the healthy qualities of squalene. How come it's bad
if it's in vaccines but good if it's in a health food shop?

http://www.lifetimehealth.com/squalene.asp

http://www.thenaturalhealthguy.com/benefits-of-squalene.html

and one I particularly like:

http://www.naturalhealth.net.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=45

"Squalene helps strengthen the immune system. Squalene is already
present in our bodies, primarily in the skin. As we age, the levels of
Squalene decreases, that is why we need to replenish Squalene in our
bodies".

So, get to it alternauts - tell us why squalene is bad and it is
dangerous in vaccines.

-- 
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On Aug 28, 8:07 pm, Peter Bowditch  wrote:
> Sam  wrote:
> >On Aug 27, 7:47 pm, Jeff  wrote:
> >> john wrote:
> >> > What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations?
>
> >> > by Dr. Anders Bruun Laursen
> >> > .
> >> > Global Research, August 20, 2009
> >> >http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14851
>
> >> > There seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about the technical nature of
> >> > Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccines.
>
> >> > As a medical doctor, I wish to clarify a number of improtant issues: First,
> >> > we should talk about vaccines instead of vaccine, since the vaccines vary as
> >> > for their compositions and even their ways of being dispensed: some by
> >> > injection, another by the nose.
>
> >> > I think the fears as for the vaccines can be referred to:
>
> >> > 1. the adjuvants - in particular squalene which was in all probability
> >> > responsible for the Gulf War syndrome,
>
> >> What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants.http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>
> >> The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>
> >> Jeff- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >  So who is correct here. Who should we believe. Either there is or
> >there isnt going to be these adjuvants in the vaccine.
>
> Sodium chloride is an adjuvant in chicken soup.
>
>
>
> >Once again amazing how so much information is on the internet. Can
> >both be right.
>
> Could some alternauts please comment on these alternative medicine web
> sites promoting the healthy qualities of squalene. How come it's bad
> if it's in vaccines but good if it's in a health food shop?
>
> http://www.lifetimehealth.com/squalene.asp
>
> http://www.thenaturalhealthguy.com/benefits-of-squalene.html
>
> and one I particularly like:
>
> http://www.naturalhealth.net.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=vie> "Squalene helps strengthen the immune system. Squalene is already
> present in our bodies, primarily in the skin. As we age, the levels of
> Squalene decreases, that is why we need to replenish Squalene in our
> bodies".
>
> So, get to it alternauts - tell us why squalene is bad and it is
> dangerous in vaccines.
>
> --
> Peter Bowditch aa #2243
> The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
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I eat squalene. Its in sardines. I recall listening to the
Michael Reagan radio show some years back and
he had a woman on that made the claim that it
was the cause of Gulf War syndrome. MR was supportive
of her views but then again he also a mouth piece of the
political right views and interests.

And given its chemical nature I no doubt absorb it as
have my ancestors since they first wandered down
to the ocean and found means of eating sea life.

The only concern I have is if my immune system
could be made reactive to it. Perhaps the risk
would come at site in the body where a small bolus
of a mixture designed to incite the immune system
was injected.

Is it a risk? Have we really looked? If it is
a risk is it long term or short term? Will it
be evident in a timely fashion? I don't know.

sardines and cheese for a snack.................Trig

On Aug 28, 5:13�am, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...@ariplex.com wrote:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIK5F4zRN0Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIK5F4zRN0Y

On Aug 28, 4:48�am, "john"  wrote:
> "Jeff"  wrote in message news:EGGlm.1203
>
> > What adjuvants? According the CDC, the vaccine won't contain adjuvants.
> >http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm.
>
> > The person who wrote the article can't get his facts strait.
>
> > Jeff
>
> http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2009pres/07/20090713b.html
>
> Bulk Oil and Water Adjuvant
>
> $71,400,000
>
> $343,810,470

http://www.hhs.gov/Disclaimer.html

On Aug 28, 11:07�pm, Peter Bowditch  wrote<snip spam>