Hi all!

I was just doing a little research online and came across starting
salaries for nursing online.  It said the UK starting was only £18-23k
- is that right?  Is that because it's NHS and private nursing pays
more?

Cheers,
Shaun

On 28 Dec 2005 06:36:41 -0800, "Shaunism" 
wrote:

>Hi all!
>
>I was just doing a little research online and came across starting
>salaries for nursing online.  It said the UK starting was only £18-23k
>- is that right?  Is that because it's NHS and private nursing pays
>more?

Exactly how much do you think starting salery should be? Don't want to
appear rude but  starting salery of £18 000 is very good voeral
compared to other career streams where post grad/college you can look
at £14000 or even less.

DOH website should have A4C salery scale.

Andre
See my blog at http://ccgi.andre02.plus.com/wordpress/

"Andre C" wrote ...
> Exactly how much do you think starting salery should be? Don't want to
> appear rude but  starting salery of £18 000 is very good voeral
> compared to other career streams where post grad/college you can look
> at £14000 or even less.

Well, yes and no.
All things are relative, and while Nursing starts off fairly well post grad, 
most other graduate careers rapidly overtake, and by age 30, the average 
graduate who stys in clinical nursing (as opposed to manager with a 
pseudo-nurse title), will be fairly lucky to top £28,000 - while those 
others will easily equal or surpass that, with much better terms and 
conditions.

Even the 18 grand is not actually 'VERY good' - many do better, though it's 
certainly not bad when graduate pay is tumbling as degrees become 
two-a-penny shite.

http://www.unison.org.uk/acrobat/B1823.pdf - NB it's a pdf - is a good guide 
to nurses pay, though will soon be obsolete as "Agenda for Change" takes 
over.


-- 
Andrew Heenan
http://www.realnurse.net/

On 28 Dec 2005 06:36:41 -0800, "Shaunism" 
wrote:

>Hi all!
>
>I was just doing a little research online and came across starting
>salaries for nursing online.  It said the UK starting was only £18-23k
>- is that right?  Is that because it's NHS and private nursing pays
>more?
>
>Cheers,
>Shaun

You're not another paki/indian/filipino/african looking to take away
yet another job from our vastly superior workforce, are you?

No, you can't be - you write intelligible English.

Sorry, you're not welcome in the NHS. 

Nowadays, if the patients can understand what you're saying and you
can't routinely make potentially life-threatening drug errors because
you can't read English, let alone speak it, then you have no place in
today's British Nursing 'Profession'.

Hope this helps.

Mark.

If it wasn't for the hard work of those you refer to as 
paki/indian/filipino/african, the NHS will without any shadow of doubt grind 
to a halt. Strangely enough you did not include those nurses coming from 
Eastern Europe, EU, Scandinavia etc. One Belgian nurse couldn't even answer 
the phone in English. I remember her asking me what to say. But, given time 
and once settled in and six months down the line she is doing just as well 
or even better, in some cases, than her scanty British counterparts. The 
world is a global village and unlike you many among us are beginning to 
realise it. It's never too late to snap out of your sleepwalking.


"Mark"  wrote in message 
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> On 28 Dec 2005 06:36:41 -0800, "Shaunism" 
> wrote:
>
>>Hi all!
>>
>>I was just doing a little research online and came across starting
>>salaries for nursing online.  It said the UK starting was only £18-23k
>>- is that right?  Is that because it's NHS and private nursing pays
>>more?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Shaun
>
> You're not another paki/indian/filipino/african looking to take away
> yet another job from our vastly superior workforce, are you?
>
> No, you can't be - you write intelligible English.
>
> Sorry, you're not welcome in the NHS.
>
> Nowadays, if the patients can understand what you're saying and you
> can't routinely make potentially life-threatening drug errors because
> you can't read English, let alone speak it, then you have no place in
> today's British Nursing 'Profession'.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Mark.
>

Strongly recommend you don't come live in the SW UK. I see adverts for
degree level stuff computing, accountants and the like for £15k. Quite
depressing really as it give me litle alternate avenues to pursue.

Well, my starting salary out of college in IT was about £32,000, so
since this is a health profession I didn't think it could start for
much less than that, certainly not almost half.  :-\

Shaun

On 31 Dec 2005 01:43:55 -0800, shaunec1@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>Well, my starting salary out of college in IT was about £32,000, so
>since this is a health profession I didn't think it could start for
>much less than that, certainly not almost half.  :-\
>
>Shaun

Well as I said down here for example a graduate with c# or java will
get £14-20 on entry.Vey rare to see £32 in IT here other than manager
level. You must be either wonder kid or live in LOndon.

Of course you enterr the health profession not for the money but
because you care  - thus this philiosophy keeps the wages down!!!

Andre

wrote ...
> my starting salary out of college in IT was about £32,000,
> so since this is a health profession I didn't think it could
> start for much less than that, certainly not almost half.  :-\

Well, as an IT professional, you should have heard of Google - my search 
found a web site that shows nurses starting at around £18,000.

Of course,  I knew anyway, being a nurse  ;o)

Also, I don't follow your logic; cleaners start at little over £10,000, 
Doctors at rather more - what link have you found between IT and Health 
Profession salaries? I cannot find any linkage.
-- 
Andrew Heenan
http://www.realnurse.net/

a shade under 19 K basic starting salary EXCLUDING unsocial hours
payments

lucky to top out at 28 K ?

odd considering the basic salary of a band 6 nurse   is over 30 K on
top increment, before  unsocial hours, given that the senior staff
nurses, sisters and Charge nurses on band 6 are very much hands on
roles... never mind the senior siters and Nurse practitioners on band 7
.....

On 1 Jan 2006 14:41:40 -0800, "Martyn H" 
wrote:

>lucky to top out at 28 K ?
>
>odd considering the basic salary of a band 6 nurse   is over 30 K on
>top increment, before  unsocial hours, given that the senior staff
>nurses, sisters and Charge nurses on band 6 are very much hands on
>roles... never mind the senior siters and Nurse practitioners on band 7
>....

Lets not confuse the poor bloke with A4C  :)

Andre

"Martyn H"  wrote ...
> lucky to top out at 28 K ?
>
> odd considering the basic salary of a band 6 nurse   is over 30 K on
> top increment, before  unsocial hours, given that the senior staff
> nurses, sisters and Charge nurses on band 6 are very much hands on
> roles... never mind the senior siters and Nurse practitioners on band 7

Well, if you choose to quote selectively, you can always prove me wrong.

But if you respond to what I actually said, it ain't so easy.

 I'm going to disengage -- it appears to me that you are so interested in 
having an argument that you are not even correctly reading what is being 
written.

I'm always willing to help people who want to be helped, even if they 
disagree, but I cannot waste my time correcting misattributions.
-- 
Andrew Heenan
http://www.realnurse.net/