On Sep 22, 12:28 pm, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2:02 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 22, 10:10 am, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 22, 11:37 am, BradGuth  wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 22, 7:07 am, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sep 22, 12:48 am, BradGuth  wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sep 21, 2:09 pm, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 21, 2:43 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > “What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
> > > > > > > > nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
> > > > > > > > that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
> > > > > > > > understand?”
> > > > > > > >  ~ BG
>
> > > > > > > As a former NASA employee who worked in the Office of Manned Space
> > > > > > > Flight in the 60ties while attending GU law school, I can state
> > > > > > > without reservation that you are a nutcase!
>
> > > > > > No you can't.
>
> > > > > > > Hundreds of thousands of government employees and contractors could
> > > > > > > keep such a secret for 30 years with no leaks??
>
> > > > > > What's to leak if you and 99.9% of all others didn't know squat to
> > > > > > begin with?
>
> > > > > > > You have no clue as to
> > > > > > > how the federal government operates; "leaks" are a tactical, political
> > > > > > > tool and Washington way of life frequently used for a variety of
> > > > > > > nefarious objectives.
>
> > > > > > Are you suggesting that our government doesn't create and publish all
> > > > > > sorts of disinformation?
>
> > > > > > >  Do you also believe the government is hiding little green men?? Alien
> > > > > > > space ships??
>
> > > > > > I believe our government lies and otherwise tells us only whatever
> > > > > > they want to share.
>
> > > > > > > BTW, I have no "job security or benefits" to worry about--I have
> > > > > > > accumulated a rather large sum of money in savings over the last 40
> > > > > > > years.
>
> > > > > > Most all of which being of public loot, I suspect.
>
> > > > > > Would you care to share a copy of your various nondisclosure policies
> > > > > > that you and others had to sign in your own blood?
>
> > > > > >  ~ BG
>
> > > > > I had a top secret clearance and DID NOT sign a non-disclosure policy.
>
> > > > > And you are suggesting that only .1% of the folks would have known the
> > > > > lunar landings were fake?? You are totally clueless. Nobody can be
> > > > > that dumb; you are either a troll having fun stirring people up or you
> > > > > have a serious mental problem.
>
> > > > > Top management of the manned lunar program during the mid-60ties were
> > > > > virtually all outside private industry top managers from companies
> > > > > such as IBM and Raytheon, not "government civil servants worried about
> > > > > pensions". I know; I helped recruit them and devise ways to short> > > > > circuit the burdensome civil service hiring procedures.
>
> > > > > Do the names Brainard Holmes, Jim Turnock, Mike Yarymovich, etc, etc
> > > > > mean anything to you.  Geez!
>
> > > > No they do not.  Were they another part of DARPA?
>
> > > > btw,  I didn't realize that so much of our moon had such a relatively
> > > > smooth/clean surface albedo of greater than 0.65, whereas in many of
> > > > those Apollo Kodak moments our Selene/moon surface looks as though its
> > > > albedo was worth nearly 0.75, and xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated
> > > > at that.
>
> > > > Too bad our physically dark as coal Selene/moon is otherwise so gamma
> > > > saturated, as having been gamma bandpass imaged from our side of the
> > > > magnetosphere.
>
> > > >  ~ BG
>
> > > No, not  DARPA. They were the top moon flight managers at NASA's OMSF
> > > in the planning stages in the 60ties. Google them, you will learn
> > > something.
>
> > > Holmes came from Raytheon where he had directed the BMEWS project
> > > ( the largest single technical project since Manhatten ), Turner from
> > > IBM ( head of the Federal Systems Division ) and Yarymovich from DOD
> > > ( the Air Force had a manned space flight program then ). Dr.
> > > Yarymovich was a "boy wonder" in his late 20ties who is still active
> > > in aerospace. NASA's OMSF was full of military officers on TDY in the
> > > 60ties.
>
> > Thanks much for that constructive and otherwise informative feedback.
>
> > Now, how about that pesky moon albedo consideration, knowing that our
> > spendy and intentionally made reflective Apollo moonsuits were of at
> > least a 0.8 to 0.9 albedo as the given DR(dynamic range) point of
> > reference (say 0.85), and don't forget each of those camera lens with
> > their polarized optical element that by rights should have made those
> > otherwise unfiltered Kodak moments of that lunar surface record as
> > though darker, rather than lighter, and especially the case of their
> > supposedly having that single spot source of illumination with loads
> > of raw solar UV energy to deal with.
>
> > What the hell went so off-world wrong with the physics of Kodak film,
> > especially since there supposedly wasn't hardly any local, cosmic or
> > nasty solar radiation factors to deal with?
>
> >   ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>
> Brad-
>
> Don't mean to be insulting but you are just hopeless in your
> continuing notion that this sort of "secret" could be held by
> thousands, in and out of the US government for almost 40 years. Your
> photography questions are irrelevant and easily explained by
> knowledgeable folks if you want to listen.
>
> Of course the government keeps some secrets but a moon landing
> fabrication? Didn't happen friend; I was deeply involved which I'm
> sure you will ignore and plow ahead since you seem to have lots of
> time on your hands.
>
> "Cover ups"?? Of course, they happen from time to time as with the
> fairly recent shuttle tragedy where the NASA managers knew the shuttle
> had a serious hole in it long before re-entry ( cost the Program
> Manager and the NASA Administrator their jobs ) but that sort of
> nonsense didn't happen with the moon LANDINGS ( plural ). There is a
> LARGE amount of Apollo gear ( not just footprints ) left on the moon
> for all to eventually see including a Christian cross Buzz Aldrin
> left. I have personally seen several he took up and brought back--
> which raised a big stink with our Jewish brothers at the time and Buzz
> then denied it ever happened.
>
> And I did have a typo above--it was "Jim Turnock" of IBM not "Jim
> Turner".

In other words, the fully related subtopics of lunar surface albedo
and of color/hue saturation as based upon the naked solar illumination
that simply does not add up according to terrestrial Kodak physics or
any science thereof, as such is still taboo/nondisclosure rated.
Should have figured as much.

And the tonnes of mostly white and/or bright and shiny Apollo stuff as
supposedly coexisting upon a very physically dark as coal Selene/moon
that has otherwise never been privately or otherwise observed as
objectively peer replicated science should have easily had it, as such
is good enough subjective interpreted science of moon landing proof
for the likes of yourself.

I suppose you or those of those you admirer as having identified
Muslim WMD on behalf of our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush), and
having no regrets or remorse ever since, as that would figure about as
subjectively worthy as your faith-based mindset cares to think.

btw,  I've never excluded Apollo or USSR inert stuff from having been
hard-landed or impact deposited upon the surface of our moon.

  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:09:35 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
wrote:

>On Sep 23, 10:48 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sep 23, 7:38 am, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Sep 22, 3:29 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
>>
>> >> > btw,  I've never excluded Apollo or USSR inert stuff from having been
>> >> > hard-landed or impact deposited upon the surface of our moon.
>>
>> >> >   ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>
>> >> So there are 6 LEM lunar landing stages, several moon rovers and a ton
>> >> of miscellaneous Apollo stuff on the moon, including flags, laser
>> >> reflectors, etc, etc  all "hard landed on the moon by NASA" over a
>> >> period of almost 5 years at 6 widely different lunar sites at a cost
>> >> of billions of $$US  to perpetuate the hoax??
>>
>> >> And the moon rocks brought back by Apollo and studied by scientists
>> >> all over the world are also a giant hoax?? And the Russians, at the
>> >> peak of the Cold War, helped us with the hoax??
>>
>> >> You really are out of it. I'd rather debate a bot.
>>
>> >Yourself as part of the military and civil service cabal/cartel are
>> >clearly limited as to whatever your closely moderated and otherwise
>> >cultivated mindset can accept or share.  Don't expect little old me to
>> >change what has been done over and over to your mindset until the
>> >point of no return.
>>
>> >I've never once stipulated or having otherwise suggested that our
>> >DARPA and their crack NASA/Apollo team wasn't trying every good or bad
>> >trick within their Zionist/Nazi book, for getting themselves safely to/
>> >from the surface of our moon.  Them dirty rotten Russians were
>> >obviously doing the same, and for the exact same government, military
>> >and civil service job security with loads of benefit reasons, as that
>> >which our side of this mutually perpetrated cold-war had been trying
>> >to pull off.
>>
>> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>>
>> Fantastic ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG, just fantastic. Best
>> laugh of the day.
>>
>> Way to kOOk!
>
>I'm not interested in your perpetual excuses or in entertaining the
>masses.  Just start sharing the best available science before it's too
>late (such as right about not would be a good time).
>
>There's nothing so terribly wrong with our having pulled off the
>greatest perpetrated cold-war sting of the century, as long as the
>rest of us don't have to forever keep paying for the consequences or
>avoiding the remorse from our mutual collateral damage to our
>environment and humanity.
>
>Your idea of forever sustaining truth-lag is not acceptable.
>

If I could make sense of that ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG I
would write an appropriate response. Unfortunately all I can make out is:

Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
babble. Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
babble (babble babble babble babble babble babble).

Babble's babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble, babble babble babble
babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
babble babble and babble.

Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble.

--
Shill #2

Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
 theobviousgcashman

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:27:18 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
wrote:

>
>Government Shill #2 wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:09:35 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sep 23, 10:48 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >On Sep 23, 7:38 am, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> On Sep 22, 3:29 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> > btw,  I've never excluded Apollo or USSR inert stuff from having been
>> >> >> > hard-landed or impact deposited upon the surface of our moon.
>> >>
>> >> >> >   ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>> >>
>> >> >> So there are 6 LEM lunar landing stages, several moon rovers and a ton
>> >> >> of miscellaneous Apollo stuff on the moon, including flags, laser
>> >> >> reflectors, etc, etc  all "hard landed on the moon by NASA" over a
>> >> >> period of almost 5 years at 6 widely different lunar sites at a cost
>> >> >> of billions of $$US  to perpetuate the hoax??
>> >>
>> >> >> And the moon rocks brought back by Apollo and studied by scientists
>> >> >> all over the world are also a giant hoax?? And the Russians, at the
>> >> >> peak of the Cold War, helped us with the hoax??
>> >>
>> >> >> You really are out of it. I'd rather debate a bot.
>> >>
>> >> >Yourself as part of the military and civil service cabal/cartel are
>> >> >clearly limited as to whatever your closely moderated and otherwise
>> >> >cultivated mindset can accept or share.  Don't expect little old me to
>> >> >change what has been done over and over to your mindset until the
>> >> >point of no return.
>> >>
>> >> >I've never once stipulated or having otherwise suggested that our
>> >> >DARPA and their crack NASA/Apollo team wasn't trying every good or bad
>> >> >trick within their Zionist/Nazi book, for getting themselves safely to/
>> >> >from the surface of our moon.  Them dirty rotten Russians were
>> >> >obviously doing the same, and for the exact same government, military
>> >> >and civil service job security with loads of benefit reasons, as that
>> >> >which our side of this mutually perpetrated cold-war had been trying
>> >> >to pull off.
>> >>
>> >> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>> >>
>> >> Fantastic ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG, just fantastic. Best
>> >> laugh of the day.
>> >>
>> >> Way to kOOk!
>> >
>> >I'm not interested in your perpetual excuses or in entertaining the
>> >masses.  Just start sharing the best available science before it's too
>> >late (such as right about not would be a good time).
>> >
>> >There's nothing so terribly wrong with our having pulled off the
>> >greatest perpetrated cold-war sting of the century, as long as the
>> >rest of us don't have to forever keep paying for the consequences or
>> >avoiding the remorse from our mutual collateral damage to our
>> >environment and humanity.
>> >
>> >Your idea of forever sustaining truth-lag is not acceptable.
>> >
>>
>> If I could make sense of that ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG I
>> would write an appropriate response. Unfortunately all I can make out is:
>>
>> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>> babble. Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>> babble (babble babble babble babble babble babble).
>>
>> Babble's babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>> babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble, babble babble babble
>> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>> babble babble and babble.
>>
>> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble.
>
>Since everything that represents yourself and others of your Zionist/
>Nazi kind, is why your reply figures.
>
> ~ BG

Huh?

--
Shill #2

"Me fail English? That's unpossible!" 
Ralph Wiggum

Government Shill #2 wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:27:18 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> wrote:
> 
>> Government Shill #2 wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:09:35 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 23, 10:48 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 23, 7:38 am, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 3:29 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
>>>>>>>> btw,  I've never excluded Apollo or USSR inert stuff from having been
>>>>>>>> hard-landed or impact deposited upon the surface of our moon.
>>>>>>>>   ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>>>>>> So there are 6 LEM lunar landing stages, several moon rovers and a ton
>>>>>>> of miscellaneous Apollo stuff on the moon, including flags, laser
>>>>>>> reflectors, etc, etc  all "hard landed on the moon by NASA" over a
>>>>>>> period of almost 5 years at 6 widely different lunar sites at a cost
>>>>>>> of billions of $$US  to perpetuate the hoax??
>>>>>>> And the moon rocks brought back by Apollo and studied by scientists
>>>>>>> all over the world are also a giant hoax?? And the Russians, at the
>>>>>>> peak of the Cold War, helped us with the hoax??
>>>>>>> You really are out of it. I'd rather debate a bot.
>>>>>> Yourself as part of the military and civil service cabal/cartel are
>>>>>> clearly limited as to whatever your closely moderated and otherwise
>>>>>> cultivated mindset can accept or share.  Don't expect little old me to
>>>>>> change what has been done over and over to your mindset until the
>>>>>> point of no return.
>>>>>> I've never once stipulated or having otherwise suggested that our
>>>>>> DARPA and their crack NASA/Apollo team wasn't trying every good or bad
>>>>>> trick within their Zionist/Nazi book, for getting themselves safely to/
>>>>> >from the surface of our moon.  Them dirty rotten Russians were
>>>>>> obviously doing the same, and for the exact same government, military
>>>>>> and civil service job security with loads of benefit reasons, as that
>>>>>> which our side of this mutually perpetrated cold-war had been trying
>>>>>> to pull off.
>>>>> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fantastic ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG, just fantastic. Best
>>>>> laugh of the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Way to kOOk!
>>>> I'm not interested in your perpetual excuses or in entertaining the
>>>> masses.  Just start sharing the best available science before it's too
>>>> late (such as right about not would be a good time).
>>>>
>>>> There's nothing so terribly wrong with our having pulled off the
>>>> greatest perpetrated cold-war sting of the century, as long as the
>>>> rest of us don't have to forever keep paying for the consequences or
>>>> avoiding the remorse from our mutual collateral damage to our
>>>> environment and humanity.
>>>>
>>>> Your idea of forever sustaining truth-lag is not acceptable.
>>>>
>>> If I could make sense of that ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG I
>>> would write an appropriate response. Unfortunately all I can make out is:
>>>
>>> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>>> babble. Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>>> babble (babble babble babble babble babble babble).
>>>
>>> Babble's babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>>> babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble, babble babble babble
>>> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>>> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>>> babble babble and babble.
>>>
>>> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble.
>> Since everything that represents yourself and others of your Zionist/
>> Nazi kind, is why your reply figures.
>>
>> ~ BG
> 
> Huh?

He gets that way after a while. The words just start coming out
in some random order that only Brad (and, possibly the "MI5 guy")
can actually make sense out of.

Hey, at least he's not talking about Venusians today...

On Sep 23, 11:31 am, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> Government Shill #2 wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:27:18 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> > wrote:
>
> >> Government Shill #2 wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:09:35 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Sep 23, 10:48 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On Sep 23, 7:38 am, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sep 22, 3:29 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
> >>>>>>>> btw,  I've never excluded Apollo or USSR inert stuff from having been
> >>>>>>>> hard-landed or impact deposited upon the surface of our moon.
> >>>>>>>>   ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
> >>>>>>> So there are 6 LEM lunar landing stages, several moon rovers and a ton
> >>>>>>> of miscellaneous Apollo stuff on the moon, including flags, laser
> >>>>>>> reflectors, etc, etc  all "hard landed on the moon by NASA" over a
> >>>>>>> period of almost 5 years at 6 widely different lunar sites at a cost
> >>>>>>> of billions of $$US  to perpetuate the hoax??
> >>>>>>> And the moon rocks brought back by Apollo and studied by scientists
> >>>>>>> all over the world are also a giant hoax?? And the Russians, at the
> >>>>>>> peak of the Cold War, helped us with the hoax??
> >>>>>>> You really are out of it. I'd rather debate a bot.
> >>>>>> Yourself as part of the military and civil service cabal/cartel are
> >>>>>> clearly limited as to whatever your closely moderated and otherwise
> >>>>>> cultivated mindset can accept or share.  Don't expect little old me to
> >>>>>> change what has been done over and over to your mindset until the
> >>>>>> point of no return.
> >>>>>> I've never once stipulated or having otherwise suggested that our
> >>>>>> DARPA and their crack NASA/Apollo team wasn't trying every good or bad
> >>>>>> trick within their Zionist/Nazi book, for getting themselves safely to/
> >>>>> >from the surface of our moon.  Them dirty rotten Russians were
> >>>>>> obviously doing the same, and for the exact same government, military
> >>>>>> and civil service job security with loads of benefit reasons, as that
> >>>>>> which our side of this mutually perpetrated cold-war had been trying
> >>>>>> to pull off.
> >>>>> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>
> >>>>> Fantastic ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG, just fantastic. Best
> >>>>> laugh of the day.
>
> >>>>> Way to kOOk!
> >>>> I'm not interested in your perpetual excuses or in entertaining the
> >>>> masses.  Just start sharing the best available science before it's too
> >>>> late (such as right about not would be a good time).
>
> >>>> There's nothing so terribly wrong with our having pulled off the
> >>>> greatest perpetrated cold-war sting of the century, as long as the
> >>>> rest of us don't have to forever keep paying for the consequences or
> >>>> avoiding the remorse from our mutual collateral damage to our
> >>>> environment and humanity.
>
> >>>> Your idea of forever sustaining truth-lag is not acceptable.
>
> >>> If I could make sense of that ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG I
> >>> would write an appropriate response. Unfortunately all I can make out is:
>
> >>> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >>> babble. Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >>> babble (babble babble babble babble babble babble).
>
> >>> Babble's babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >>> babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble, babble babble babble
> >>> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >>> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >>> babble babble and babble.
>
> >>> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble.
> >> Since everything that represents yourself and others of your Zionist/
> >> Nazi kind, is why your reply figures.
>
> >> ~ BG
>
> > Huh?
>
> He gets that way after a while. The words just start coming out
> in some random order that only Brad (and, possibly the "MI5 guy")
> can actually make sense out of.
>
> Hey, at least he's not talking about Venusians today...

What USSR/Russian Soviet in their right mind would blow a good thing?

btw, at least Venus has been technically doable for those of us half
as smart as a hot rock.  Please let us know when you manage to get
yourself educated that far along, as otherwise a 5th grader would do
rather nicely.

 ~ BG

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:01:27 +0000, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Yet Another Government Shill
:

>
>
>
>BradGuth shat...
>
>>Since everything that represents yourself and others of your
>>Zionist/Nazi kind, is why your reply figures.
>
>I don't know who you are, but I know what you are.

I suspect that what you (and the rest of the rational
adults) know barely scratches the surface of what he is.
-- 

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
                          - McNameless

On Sep 23, 2:17 pm, Bob Casanova  wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:01:27 +0000, the following appeared
> in sci.skeptic, posted by Yet Another Government Shill
> :
>
>
>
> >BradGuth shat...
>
> >>Since everything that represents yourself and others of your
> >>Zionist/Nazi kind, is why your reply figures.
>
> >I don't know who you are, but I know what you are.
>
> I suspect that what you (and the rest of the rational
> adults) know barely scratches the surface of what he is.
> --
>
> Bob C.

The truth usually hurts those you love the most.

 ~ BG

In article , 
gov.shill@gmail.com says...
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:27:18 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >Government Shill #2 wrote:
> >> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:09:35 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sep 23, 10:48 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Sep 23, 7:38 am, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sep 22, 3:29 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> > btw,  I've never excluded Apollo or USSR inert stuff from having been
> >> >> >> > hard-landed or impact deposited upon the surface of our moon.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >   ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
> >> >>
> >> >> >> So there are 6 LEM lunar landing stages, several moon rovers and a ton
> >> >> >> of miscellaneous Apollo stuff on the moon, including flags, laser
> >> >> >> reflectors, etc, etc  all "hard landed on the moon by NASA" over a
> >> >> >> period of almost 5 years at 6 widely different lunar sites at a cost
> >> >> >> of billions of $$US  to perpetuate the hoax??
> >> >>
> >> >> >> And the moon rocks brought back by Apollo and studied by scientists
> >> >> >> all over the world are also a giant hoax?? And the Russians, at the
> >> >> >> peak of the Cold War, helped us with the hoax??
> >> >>
> >> >> >> You really are out of it. I'd rather debate a bot.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Yourself as part of the military and civil service cabal/cartel are
> >> >> >clearly limited as to whatever your closely moderated and otherwise
> >> >> >cultivated mindset can accept or share.  Don't expect little old me to
> >> >> >change what has been done over and over to your mindset until the
> >> >> >point of no return.
> >> >>
> >> >> >I've never once stipulated or having otherwise suggested that our
> >> >> >DARPA and their crack NASA/Apollo team wasn't trying every good or bad
> >> >> >trick within their Zionist/Nazi book, for getting themselves safely to/
> >> >> >from the surface of our moon.  Them dirty rotten Russians were
> >> >> >obviously doing the same, and for the exact same government, military
> >> >> >and civil service job security with loads of benefit reasons, as that
> >> >> >which our side of this mutually perpetrated cold-war had been trying
> >> >> >to pull off.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
> >> >>
> >> >> Fantastic ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG, just fantastic. Best
> >> >> laugh of the day.
> >> >>
> >> >> Way to kOOk!
> >> >
> >> >I'm not interested in your perpetual excuses or in entertaining the
> >> >masses.  Just start sharing the best available science before it's too
> >> >late (such as right about not would be a good time).
> >> >
> >> >There's nothing so terribly wrong with our having pulled off the
> >> >greatest perpetrated cold-war sting of the century, as long as the
> >> >rest of us don't have to forever keep paying for the consequences or
> >> >avoiding the remorse from our mutual collateral damage to our
> >> >environment and humanity.
> >> >
> >> >Your idea of forever sustaining truth-lag is not acceptable.
> >> >
> >>
> >> If I could make sense of that ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG I
> >> would write an appropriate response. Unfortunately all I can make out is:
> >>
> >> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >> babble. Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >> babble (babble babble babble babble babble babble).
> >>
> >> Babble's babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >> babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble, babble babble babble
> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >> babble babble and babble.
> >>
> >> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble.
> >
> >Since everything that represents yourself and others of your Zionist/
> >Nazi kind, is why your reply figures.
> >
> > ~ BG
> 
> Huh?
> 
> --
> Shill #2
> 
> "Me fail English? That's unpossible!" 
> Ralph Wiggum
> 

Even for babbling Brad, that's a babble!

-- 
BDK

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kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

In article , me@privacy.net 
says...
> 
> 
> 
> BradGuth shat...
> 
> >Since everything that represents yourself and others of your
> >Zionist/Nazi kind, is why your reply figures.
> 
> I don't know who you are, but I know what you are.
> 
> 


Even the other kooks know Brad is...unique...
-- 
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Sep 23, 6:10 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
> On Sep 23, 2:17 pm, Bob Casanova  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:01:27 퍍, the following appeared
> > in sci.skeptic, posted by Yet Another Government Shill
> > :
>
> > >BradGuth shat...
>
> > >>Since everything that represents yourself and others of your
> > >>Zionist/Nazi kind, is why your reply figures.
>
> > >I don't know who you are, but I know what you are.
>
> > I suspect that what you (and the rest of the rational
> > adults) know barely scratches the surface of what he is.
> > --
>
> > Bob C.
>
> The truth usually hurts those you love the most.
>
>  ~ BG

I'll put a different spin on this whole "discussion".

Thank you Brad--you are paying those of us who worked on Apollo a
tremendous backwards compliment when you state that what we did was,
in your expert scientific opinion, impossible and therefore could not
have happened. My guess is that you were not alive ( or were a child )
at the time and/or have no formal scientific training.

 Apollo did land humans on the moon on multiple occasions--we must
have been pretty smart folks who could somehow bend your "laws of
physics"!

On Sep 24, 7:53 am, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
wrote:
> On Sep 23, 6:10 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 23, 2:17 pm, Bob Casanova  wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:01:27 퍍, the following appeared
> > > in sci.skeptic, posted by Yet Another Government Shill
> > > :
>
> > > >BradGuth shat...
>
> > > >>Since everything that represents yourself and others of your
> > > >>Zionist/Nazi kind, is why your reply figures.
>
> > > >I don't know who you are, but I know what you are.
>
> > > I suspect that what you (and the rest of the rational
> > > adults) know barely scratches the surface of what he is.
> > > --
>
> > > Bob C.
>
> > The truth usually hurts those you love the most.
>
> >  ~ BG
>
> I'll put a different spin on this whole "discussion".
>
> Thank you Brad--you are paying those of us who worked on Apollo a
> tremendous backwards compliment when you state that what we did was,
> in your expert scientific opinion, impossible and therefore could not
> have happened. My guess is that you were not alive ( or were a child )
> at the time and/or have no formal scientific training.
>
>  Apollo did land humans on the moon on multiple occasions--we must
> have been pretty smart folks who could somehow bend your "laws of
> physics"!


Perhaps you should be a little more aware of what the tone of your
replies to this topic has been telling about yourself and others of
your status quo or bust kind of take-it or leave-it mindset.

I never once said that the USSR and those our crack DARPA wizards
didn’t honestly try to accomplish the daunting feat of landing humans
upon and safely returning from our physically dark as coal Selene/
moon.  Of whatever portion was accomplished was however extremely
impressive none the less, at least as good as if not substantially
better than our mutually perpetrated cold-war tango dance partner
achieved.  Lets call this one a technological wash, whereas this *
Dancing With The Warlords * as a continuing cold-war saga continues to
play out.

I’m not nearly as anti-NASA or even opposed to our having fully
utilized and otherwise having protected the best of Hitlers’ Zionist/
Nazi physics and science smart wizards as you’d like to think, for
their having accomplished as much as the best available technology and
of whatever our frail human physiology could muster.

A short to/from trip with one extremely brief orbit of our moon was
technically doable for a human crew of three, as we can believe having
been accomplished by Apollo 13.  Much longer stint of an orbital stay
or much less of their having landed upon and safely returning was not
quite as doable, or that of any sane notion to do considering that our
fly-by-rocket landers were anything but safely usable for that task.

Btw, my laws of physics don’t seem to be nearly as flexible or as
nearly political and otherwise faith-based conditional as those of
yours, and I do not go around topic/author stalking and excluding or
banishing of evidence and otherwise having publicly funded by point of
view or interpretation as representing the one and only story that
gets into our mainstream media, science journals and textbooks.

  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG