On Sep 21, 1:43 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:30:48 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sep 20, 1:19 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth  >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Sep 19, 12:22 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:49 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:41:26 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:30 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 6:30 am, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> In article ,
>
> >> >> >> >> >> BradGuth   wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >You obviously live in a pretend world, where governments and their
> >> >> >> >> >> >faith-based puppet masters do not continually lie their mutual cold-
> >> >> >> >> >> >war perpetrating butts off.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> No, but unlike you we aren't willing to believe anything so long as
> >> >> >> >> >> it obvious nonsense.
>
> >> >> >> >> >Now the regular laws of physics and best available science is "obvious
> >> >> >> >> >nonsense"?
>
> >> >> >> >> > ~ BG
>
> >> >> >> >> Only when interpreted by you ~ BG. You take science, run it through your
> >> >> >> >> internal processor and out comes "babble babble babble bable.> >> >> >> >How many tens of thousands of USSR government, military and civil
> >> >> >> >service jobs plus whatever employed and/or retirement benefits were on
> >> >> >> >the line at the end of WWII?
>
> >> >> >> Huh? See ~ BG? This is what I mean about the incomprehensibility of your
> >> >> >> posts. One post you are talking about physics, the next you are waffling
> >> >> >> about the USSR and WWII. I am not as crazy as you. These disparate items do
> >> >> >> not appear to go together. I'm sure that with the extra voices you have
> >> >> >> going in your head this conversation is seamless, but us sane people are
> >> >> >> missing half (or more) of your conversation.
>
> >> >> >> >Same question applied to the American side or point of view.
>
> >> >> >> I'm sure it does... What do your other voices tell you is the answer?
>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Shill #2
>
> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>
> >> >> >Evidence exclusion and perpetual denial has been mainstream status quo
> >> >> >for centuries, if not thousands of years.  How many thousand
> >> >> >documented examples of government and faith-based lies upon lies and
> >> >> >of subsequent consequences would you like to ponder?
>
> >> >> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble. Babble  babble babble babble
> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble babble
> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble?
>
> >> >> > ~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> ~ Shill #2 Shill_#2 Shill.#2 Shill#2 S2
>
> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>
> >> >Here’s yet another good one, as recently published in Popular Science,
> >> >of where the DARPA mainstream is continually trying to snooker and
> >> >dumbfound its way along.
>
> >> >“To get the resolution to the point where one pixel was the size of a
> >> >foot print, Hubble would need a primary mirror of 2,400 feet in
> >> >diameter”
>
> >> >Every 5th graders knows or at least should know that the size of a
> >> >primary mirror has nothing to do with optical magnification or of its
> >> >pixel resolution.  GeoEye at a low orbit that’s easily doable, as such
> >> >could image our physically dark as coal Selene/moon as tight as an
> >> >Apollo moon-boot foot print per pixel.  The USAF has had better than
> >> >GeoEye optics as of decades ago.
>
> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>
> >> Maybe. But your 5th graders would also understand that GeoEye-1 is
> >> 681km/423 miles above the objects it is looking at. The Moon is
> >> 384,000km/238600 miles from the Hubble Space Telescope.
>
> >>http://launch.geoeye.com/LaunchSite/about/fact_sheet.aspx
>
> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain it to you.
>
> >What's to explain?
>
> What's to explain? Well... The quote you cited "“To get the resolution to
> the point where one pixel was the size of a foot print, Hubble would need a
> primary mirror of 2,400 feet in diameter”"
>
> Followed by your contention that "Every 5th graders knows or at least
> should know that the size of a primary mirror has nothing to do with
> optical magnification or of its pixel resolution. GeoEye at a low orbit..> You are trying to tell us that "They" are lying about why the Hubble Space
> Telescope's resolution is not good enough to see objects on the Moon and
> then you give us the example of a telescope in low Earth orbit.
>
> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain to you that you are comparing
> oranges and apples.
>
> >Put GeoEye at 68 km away from the physically dark as coal Selene/moon,
> >and you'll be getting the resolution I'd mentioned, and that's raw w/o
> >PhotoShop enlargements.
>
> >The USAF has had equal or better than GeoEye 2 for more than three
> >decades, and that's worth better than 2.5 mm resolution when placed
> >into the much lower orbit around our moon.
>
> And what... you would believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they
> flew a satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
> footprints?
>
> Of course you wouldn't!
>
> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>
> ~ Shill #2 Shill_#2 Shill.#2 Shill#2 S2
> --
>
> I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God
> who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect
> has intended us to forgo their use.
>         Galileo Galilei

What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
understand?

 ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:37:59 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
wrote:

>On Sep 21, 10:20 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:51:16 -0400, BDK 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >In article ,
>> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says...
>> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Sep 21, 9:14 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:08:52 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >On Sep 21, 1:43 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:30:48 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >On Sep 20, 1:19 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 12:22 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:49 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:41:26 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:30 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 6:30 am, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article ,
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BradGuth   wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You obviously live in a pretend world, where governments and their
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >faith-based puppet masters do not continually lie their mutual cold-
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >war perpetrating butts off.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No, but unlike you we aren't willing to believe anything so long as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> it obvious nonsense.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Now the regular laws of physics and best available science is "obvious
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >nonsense"?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~ BG
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only when interpreted by you ~ BG. You take science, run it through your
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> internal processor and out comes "babble babble babble bable..."
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >How many tens of thousands of USSR government, military and civil
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >service jobs plus whatever employed and/or retirement benefits were on
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the line at the end of WWII?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Huh? See ~ BG? This is what I mean about the incomprehensibility of your
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> posts. One post you are talking about physics, the next you are waffling
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> about the USSR and WWII. I am not as crazy as you. These disparate items do
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> not appear to go together. I'm sure that with the extra voices you have
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> going in your head this conversation is seamless, but us sane people are
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> missing half (or more) of your conversation.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Same question applied to the American side or point of view.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm sure it does... What do your other voices tell you is the answer?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Shill #2
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Evidence exclusion and perpetual denial has been mainstream status quo
>> >> >> >> >> >> >for centuries, if not thousands of years.  How many thousand
>> >> >> >> >> >> >documented examples of government and faith-based lies upon lies and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >of subsequent consequences would you like to ponder?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>> >> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble. Babble  babble babble babble
>> >> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble babble
>> >> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > ~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> ~ Shill #2 Shill_#2 Shill.#2 Shill#2 S2
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
>> >> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >Here?s yet another good one, as recently published in Popular Science,
>> >> >> >> >> >of where the DARPA mainstream is continually trying to snooker and
>> >> >> >> >> >dumbfound its way along.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >?To get the resolution to the point where one pixel was the size of a
>> >> >> >> >> >foot print, Hubble would need a primary mirror of 2,400 feet in
>> >> >> >> >> >diameter?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >Every 5th graders knows or at least should know that the size of a
>> >> >> >> >> >primary mirror has nothing to do with optical magnification or of its
>> >> >> >> >> >pixel resolution.  GeoEye at a low orbit that?s easily doable, as such
>> >> >> >> >> >could image our physically dark as coal Selene/moon as tight as an
>> >> >> >> >> >Apollo moon-boot foot print per pixel.  The USAF has had better than
>> >> >> >> >> >GeoEye optics as of decades ago.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Maybe. But your 5th graders would also understand that GeoEye-1 is
>> >> >> >> >> 681km/423 miles above the objects it is looking at. The Moon is
>> >> >> >> >> 384,000km/238600 miles from the Hubble Space Telescope.
>>
>> >> >> >> >>http://launch.geoeye.com/LaunchSite/about/fact_sheet.aspx
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain it to you.
>>
>> >> >> >> >What's to explain?
>>
>> >> >> >> What's to explain? Well... The quote you cited "?To get the resolution to
>> >> >> >> the point where one pixel was the size of a foot print, Hubble would need a
>> >> >> >> primary mirror of 2,400 feet in diameter?"
>>
>> >> >> >> Followed by your contention that "Every 5th graders knows or at least
>> >> >> >> should know that the size of a primary mirror has nothing to do with
>> >> >> >> optical magnification or of its pixel resolution. GeoEye at a low orbit..."
>>
>> >> >> >> You are trying to tell us that "They" are lying about why the Hubble Space
>> >> >> >> Telescope's resolution is not good enough to see objects on the Moon and
>> >> >> >> then you give us the example of a telescope in low Earth orbit.
>>
>> >> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain to you that you are comparing
>> >> >> >> oranges and apples.
>>
>> >> >> >> >Put GeoEye at 68 km away from the physically dark as coal Selene/moon,
>> >> >> >> >and you'll be getting the resolution I'd mentioned, and that's raw w/o
>> >> >> >> >PhotoShop enlargements.
>>
>> >> >> >> >The USAF has had equal or better than GeoEye 2 for more than three
>> >> >> >> >decades, and that's worth better than 2.5 mm resolution when placed
>> >> >> >> >into the much lower orbit around our moon.
>>
>> >> >> >> And what... you would believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they
>> >> >> >> flew a satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
>> >> >> >> footprints?
>>
>> >> >> >> Of course you wouldn't!
>>
>> >> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>
>> >> >> >What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
>> >> >> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
>> >> >> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
>> >> >> >understand?
>>
>> >> >> > ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>
>> >> >> Nice tap dance there ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG. Don't
>> >> >> even try to address the points, just bluster and maybe no one will notice.
>>
>> >> >In other words, I've got each of you brain dead and pecker sucking
>> >> >bastards on that one.
>>
>> >> No. You have got nothing. Not even a lucid reply. You are still just tap
>> >> dancing about, hoping to not have to answer the question.
>>
>> >> Would you believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they flew a
>> >> satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
>> >> footprints?
>>
>> >> >?What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
>> >> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
>> >> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
>> >> >understand??
>>
>> >> This rant has nothing to do with the question posed. I know the question is
>> >> not written in Babble. I don't speak Babble. Can you get a 5th grader to
>> >> translate it for you?
>>
>> >Wow, even the Great Guthball resorts to the gay sex stuff. Very
>> >disappointing.
>>
>> Anything to avoid the question. He's been caught bullshitting and hopes
>> that no on else will notice. He seems to think he can drop in some typical
>> kOOKer gay lames and maybe I'll go away.
>
>Typical Zionist/Nazi tactics you have.  Hitler would be soooo proud of
>you.

Zionist/Nazi tactics are to ask questions?? The bastards!

Dance Brad, dance...

--
Shill #2

Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
 theobviousgcashman

On Sep 23, 7:38 am, "M104gal...@gmail.com" 
wrote:
> On Sep 22, 3:29 pm, BradGuth  wrote:
>
> > btw,  I've never excluded Apollo or USSR inert stuff from having been
> > hard-landed or impact deposited upon the surface of our moon.
>
> >   ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>
> So there are 6 LEM lunar landing stages, several moon rovers and a ton
> of miscellaneous Apollo stuff on the moon, including flags, laser
> reflectors, etc, etc  all "hard landed on the moon by NASA" over a
> period of almost 5 years at 6 widely different lunar sites at a cost
> of billions of $$US  to perpetuate the hoax??
>
> And the moon rocks brought back by Apollo and studied by scientists
> all over the world are also a giant hoax?? And the Russians, at the
> peak of the Cold War, helped us with the hoax??
>
> You really are out of it. I'd rather debate a bot.

Yourself as part of the military and civil service cabal/cartel are
clearly limited as to whatever your closely moderated and otherwise
cultivated mindset can accept or share.  Don't expect little old me to
change what has been done over and over to your mindset until the
point of no return.

I've never once stipulated or having otherwise suggested that our
DARPA and their crack NASA/Apollo team wasn't trying every good or bad
trick within their Zionist/Nazi book, for getting themselves safely to/
from the surface of our moon.  Them dirty rotten Russians were
obviously doing the same, and for the exact same government, military
and civil service job security with loads of benefit reasons, as that
which our side of this mutually perpetrated cold-war had been trying
to pull off.

  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG