On Sep 20, 1:19 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sep 19, 12:22 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth  >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Sep 19, 11:49 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:41:26 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:30 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 6:30 am, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
> >> >> >> >> In article ,
>
> >> >> >> >> BradGuth   wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >You obviously live in a pretend world, where governments and their
> >> >> >> >> >faith-based puppet masters do not continually lie their mutual cold-
> >> >> >> >> >war perpetrating butts off.
>
> >> >> >> >> No, but unlike you we aren't willing to believe anything so long as
> >> >> >> >> it obvious nonsense.
>
> >> >> >> >Now the regular laws of physics and best available science is "obvious
> >> >> >> >nonsense"?
>
> >> >> >> > ~ BG
>
> >> >> >> Only when interpreted by you ~ BG. You take science, run it through your
> >> >> >> internal processor and out comes "babble babble babble bable..."
>
> >> >> >How many tens of thousands of USSR government, military and civil
> >> >> >service jobs plus whatever employed and/or retirement benefits were on
> >> >> >the line at the end of WWII?
>
> >> >> Huh? See ~ BG? This is what I mean about the incomprehensibility of your
> >> >> posts. One post you are talking about physics, the next you are waffling
> >> >> about the USSR and WWII. I am not as crazy as you. These disparate items do
> >> >> not appear to go together. I'm sure that with the extra voices you have
> >> >> going in your head this conversation is seamless, but us sane people are
> >> >> missing half (or more) of your conversation.
>
> >> >> >Same question applied to the American side or point of view.
>
> >> >> I'm sure it does... What do your other voices tell you is the answer?
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Shill #2
>
> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>
> >> >Evidence exclusion and perpetual denial has been mainstream status quo
> >> >for centuries, if not thousands of years.  How many thousand
> >> >documented examples of government and faith-based lies upon lies and
> >> >of subsequent consequences would you like to ponder?
>
> >> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble. Babble  babble babble babble
> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble babble
> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble?
>
> >> > ~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG
>
> >> --
> >> ~ Shill #2 Shill_#2 Shill.#2 Shill#2 S2
>
> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round.> >>  theobviousgcashman
>
> >Here’s yet another good one, as recently published in Popular Science,
> >of where the DARPA mainstream is continually trying to snooker and
> >dumbfound its way along.
>
> >“To get the resolution to the point where one pixel was the size of a
> >foot print, Hubble would need a primary mirror of 2,400 feet in
> >diameter”
>
> >Every 5th graders knows or at least should know that the size of a
> >primary mirror has nothing to do with optical magnification or of its
> >pixel resolution.  GeoEye at a low orbit that’s easily doable, as such
> >could image our physically dark as coal Selene/moon as tight as an
> >Apollo moon-boot foot print per pixel.  The USAF has had better than
> >GeoEye optics as of decades ago.
>
> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>
> Maybe. But your 5th graders would also understand that GeoEye-1 is
> 681km/423 miles above the objects it is looking at. The Moon is
> 384,000km/238600 miles from the Hubble Space Telescope.
>
> http://launch.geoeye.com/LaunchSite/about/fact_sheet.aspx
>
> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain it to you.
>

What's to explain?

Put GeoEye at 68 km away from the physically dark as coal Selene/moon,
and you'll be getting the resolution I'd mentioned, and that's raw w/o
PhotoShop enlargements.

The USAF has had equal or better than GeoEye 2 for more than three
decades, and that's worth better than 2.5 mm resolution when placed
into the much lower orbit around our moon.

  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:01:51 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
wrote:

>On Sep 21, 12:56 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sep 21, 9:14 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:08:52 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Sep 21, 1:43 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:30:48 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >On Sep 20, 1:19 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 12:22 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:49 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:41:26 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:30 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 6:30 am, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article ,
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BradGuth   wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You obviously live in a pretend world, where governments and their
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >faith-based puppet masters do not continually lie their mutual cold-
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >war perpetrating butts off.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No, but unlike you we aren't willing to believe anything so long as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> it obvious nonsense.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Now the regular laws of physics and best available science is "obvious
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >nonsense"?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~ BG
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only when interpreted by you ~ BG. You take science, run it through your
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> internal processor and out comes "babble babble babble bable..."
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >How many tens of thousands of USSR government, military and civil
>> >> >> >> >> >> >service jobs plus whatever employed and/or retirement benefits were on
>> >> >> >> >> >> >the line at the end of WWII?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Huh? See ~ BG? This is what I mean about the incomprehensibility of your
>> >> >> >> >> >> posts. One post you are talking about physics, the next you are waffling
>> >> >> >> >> >> about the USSR and WWII. I am not as crazy as you. These disparate items do
>> >> >> >> >> >> not appear to go together. I'm sure that with the extra voices you have
>> >> >> >> >> >> going in your head this conversation is seamless, but us sane people are
>> >> >> >> >> >> missing half (or more) of your conversation.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Same question applied to the American side or point of view.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I'm sure it does... What do your other voices tell you is the answer?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> Shill #2
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
>> >> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >Evidence exclusion and perpetual denial has been mainstream status quo
>> >> >> >> >> >for centuries, if not thousands of years.  How many thousand
>> >> >> >> >> >documented examples of government and faith-based lies upon lies and
>> >> >> >> >> >of subsequent consequences would you like to ponder?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble. Babble  babble babble babble
>> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble babble
>> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > ~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG
>>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> ~ Shill #2 Shill_#2 Shill.#2 Shill#2 S2
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
>> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>>
>> >> >> >> >Here’s yet another good one, as recently published in Popular Science,
>> >> >> >> >of where the DARPA mainstream is continually trying to snooker and
>> >> >> >> >dumbfound its way along.
>>
>> >> >> >> >“To get the resolution to the point where one pixel was the size of a
>> >> >> >> >foot print, Hubble would need a primary mirror of 2,400 feet in
>> >> >> >> >diameter”
>>
>> >> >> >> >Every 5th graders knows or at least should know that the size of a
>> >> >> >> >primary mirror has nothing to do with optical magnification or of its
>> >> >> >> >pixel resolution.  GeoEye at a low orbit that’s easily doable, as such
>> >> >> >> >could image our physically dark as coal Selene/moon as tight as an
>> >> >> >> >Apollo moon-boot foot print per pixel.  The USAF has had better than
>> >> >> >> >GeoEye optics as of decades ago.
>>
>> >> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>
>> >> >> >> Maybe. But your 5th graders would also understand that GeoEye-1 is
>> >> >> >> 681km/423 miles above the objects it is looking at. The Moon is
>> >> >> >> 384,000km/238600 miles from the Hubble Space Telescope.
>>
>> >> >> >>http://launch.geoeye.com/LaunchSite/about/fact_sheet.aspx
>>
>> >> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain it to you.
>>
>> >> >> >What's to explain?
>>
>> >> >> What's to explain? Well... The quote you cited "“To get the resolution to
>> >> >> the point where one pixel was the size of a foot print, Hubble would need a
>> >> >> primary mirror of 2,400 feet in diameter”"
>>
>> >> >> Followed by your contention that "Every 5th graders knows or at least
>> >> >> should know that the size of a primary mirror has nothing to do with
>> >> >> optical magnification or of its pixel resolution. GeoEye at a low orbit..."
>>
>> >> >> You are trying to tell us that "They" are lying about why the Hubble Space
>> >> >> Telescope's resolution is not good enough to see objects on the Moon and
>> >> >> then you give us the example of a telescope in low Earth orbit.
>>
>> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain to you that you are comparing
>> >> >> oranges and apples.
>>
>> >> >> >Put GeoEye at 68 km away from the physically dark as coal Selene/moon,
>> >> >> >and you'll be getting the resolution I'd mentioned, and that's raw w/o
>> >> >> >PhotoShop enlargements.
>>
>> >> >> >The USAF has had equal or better than GeoEye 2 for more than three
>> >> >> >decades, and that's worth better than 2.5 mm resolution when placed
>> >> >> >into the much lower orbit around our moon.
>>
>> >> >> And what... you would believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they
>> >> >> flew a satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
>> >> >> footprints?
>>
>> >> >> Of course you wouldn't!
>>
>> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>
>> >> >What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
>> >> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
>> >> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
>> >> >understand?
>>
>> >> > ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>
>> >> Nice tap dance there ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG. Don't
>> >> even try to address the points, just bluster and maybe no one will notice.
>>
>> >In other words, I've got each of you brain dead and pecker sucking
>> >bastards on that one.
>>
>> No. You have got nothing. Not even a lucid reply. You are still just tap
>> dancing about, hoping to not have to answer the question.
>>
>> Would you believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they flew a
>> satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
>> footprints?
>>
>> >“What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
>> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
>> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
>> >understand?”
>>
>> This rant has nothing to do with the question posed. I know the question is
>> not written in Babble. I don't speak Babble. Can you get a 5th grader to
>> translate it for you?
>
>I’d believe the independently peer replicated whole truth and nothing
>but the truth, whereas you’d believe whatever you’re told to believe,
>or else.

Which again completely fails to answer the question, whilst tap dancing
around, hoping it will go away.

Would you believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they flew a
satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
footprints?

--
Shill #2

Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
 theobviousgcashman

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:51:16 -0400, BDK 
wrote:

>In article , 
>gov.shill@gmail.com says...
>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Sep 21, 9:14 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:08:52 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >On Sep 21, 1:43 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:30:48 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >On Sep 20, 1:19 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 12:22 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:49 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:41:26 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:30 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 6:30 am, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article ,
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BradGuth   wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You obviously live in a pretend world, where governments and their
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >faith-based puppet masters do not continually lie their mutual cold-
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >war perpetrating butts off.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No, but unlike you we aren't willing to believe anything so long as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> it obvious nonsense.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Now the regular laws of physics and best available science is "obvious
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >nonsense"?
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~ BG
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only when interpreted by you ~ BG. You take science, run it through your
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> internal processor and out comes "babble babble babble bable..."
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >How many tens of thousands of USSR government, military and civil
>> >> >> >> >> >> >service jobs plus whatever employed and/or retirement benefits were on
>> >> >> >> >> >> >the line at the end of WWII?
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Huh? See ~ BG? This is what I mean about the incomprehensibility of your
>> >> >> >> >> >> posts. One post you are talking about physics, the next you are waffling
>> >> >> >> >> >> about the USSR and WWII. I am not as crazy as you. These disparate items do
>> >> >> >> >> >> not appear to go together. I'm sure that with the extra voices you have
>> >> >> >> >> >> going in your head this conversation is seamless, but us sane people are
>> >> >> >> >> >> missing half (or more) of your conversation.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Same question applied to the American side or point of view.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I'm sure it does... What do your other voices tell you is the answer?
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> Shill #2
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
>> >> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >Evidence exclusion and perpetual denial has been mainstream status quo
>> >> >> >> >> >for centuries, if not thousands of years.  How many thousand
>> >> >> >> >> >documented examples of government and faith-based lies upon lies and
>> >> >> >> >> >of subsequent consequences would you like to ponder?
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
>> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble. Babble  babble babble babble
>> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble babble
>> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble?
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > ~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> ~ Shill #2 Shill_#2 Shill.#2 Shill#2 S2
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
>> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >Here?s yet another good one, as recently published in Popular Science,
>> >> >> >> >of where the DARPA mainstream is continually trying to snooker and
>> >> >> >> >dumbfound its way along.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >?To get the resolution to the point where one pixel was the size of a
>> >> >> >> >foot print, Hubble would need a primary mirror of 2,400 feet in
>> >> >> >> >diameter?
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >Every 5th graders knows or at least should know that the size of a
>> >> >> >> >primary mirror has nothing to do with optical magnification or of its
>> >> >> >> >pixel resolution.  GeoEye at a low orbit that?s easily doable, as such
>> >> >> >> >could image our physically dark as coal Selene/moon as tight as an
>> >> >> >> >Apollo moon-boot foot print per pixel.  The USAF has had better than
>> >> >> >> >GeoEye optics as of decades ago.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Maybe. But your 5th graders would also understand that GeoEye-1 is
>> >> >> >> 681km/423 miles above the objects it is looking at. The Moon is
>> >> >> >> 384,000km/238600 miles from the Hubble Space Telescope.
>> >>
>> >> >> >>http://launch.geoeye.com/LaunchSite/about/fact_sheet.aspx
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain it to you.
>> >>
>> >> >> >What's to explain?
>> >>
>> >> >> What's to explain? Well... The quote you cited "?To get the resolution to
>> >> >> the point where one pixel was the size of a foot print, Hubble would need a
>> >> >> primary mirror of 2,400 feet in diameter?"
>> >>
>> >> >> Followed by your contention that "Every 5th graders knows or at least
>> >> >> should know that the size of a primary mirror has nothing to do with
>> >> >> optical magnification or of its pixel resolution. GeoEye at a low orbit..."
>> >>
>> >> >> You are trying to tell us that "They" are lying about why the Hubble Space
>> >> >> Telescope's resolution is not good enough to see objects on the Moon and
>> >> >> then you give us the example of a telescope in low Earth orbit.
>> >>
>> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain to you that you are comparing
>> >> >> oranges and apples.
>> >>
>> >> >> >Put GeoEye at 68 km away from the physically dark as coal Selene/moon,
>> >> >> >and you'll be getting the resolution I'd mentioned, and that's raw w/o
>> >> >> >PhotoShop enlargements.
>> >>
>> >> >> >The USAF has had equal or better than GeoEye 2 for more than three
>> >> >> >decades, and that's worth better than 2.5 mm resolution when placed
>> >> >> >into the much lower orbit around our moon.
>> >>
>> >> >> And what... you would believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they
>> >> >> flew a satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
>> >> >> footprints?
>> >>
>> >> >> Of course you wouldn't!
>> >>
>> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>> >>
>> >> >What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
>> >> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
>> >> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
>> >> >understand?
>> >>
>> >> > ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>> >>
>> >> Nice tap dance there ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG. Don't
>> >> even try to address the points, just bluster and maybe no one will notice.
>> >
>> >In other words, I've got each of you brain dead and pecker sucking
>> >bastards on that one.
>> 
>> No. You have got nothing. Not even a lucid reply. You are still just tap
>> dancing about, hoping to not have to answer the question.
>> 
>> Would you believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they flew a
>> satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
>> footprints?
>> 
>> >?What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
>> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
>> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
>> >understand??
>> 
>> This rant has nothing to do with the question posed. I know the question is
>> not written in Babble. I don't speak Babble. Can you get a 5th grader to
>> translate it for you?
>> 
>
>
>Wow, even the Great Guthball resorts to the gay sex stuff. Very 
>disappointing.

Anything to avoid the question. He's been caught bullshitting and hopes
that no on else will notice. He seems to think he can drop in some typical
kOOKer gay lames and maybe I'll go away.

--
Shill #2

Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
 theobviousgcashman

On Sep 21, 10:20 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:51:16 -0400, BDK 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >In article ,
> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says...
> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Sep 21, 9:14 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:08:52 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Sep 21, 1:43 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:30:48 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >On Sep 20, 1:19 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 12:22 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:49 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:41:26 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:30 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 6:30 am, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article ,
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BradGuth   wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You obviously live in a pretend world, where governments and their
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >faith-based puppet masters do not continually lie their mutual cold-
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >war perpetrating butts off.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No, but unlike you we aren't willing to believe anything so long as
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> it obvious nonsense.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Now the regular laws of physics and best available science is "obvious
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >nonsense"?
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~ BG
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only when interpreted by you ~ BG. You take science, run it through your
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> internal processor and out comes "babble babble babble bable..."
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >How many tens of thousands of USSR government, military and civil
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >service jobs plus whatever employed and/or retirement benefits were on
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the line at the end of WWII?
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Huh? See ~ BG? This is what I mean about the incomprehensibility of your
> >> >> >> >> >> >> posts. One post you are talking about physics, the next you are waffling
> >> >> >> >> >> >> about the USSR and WWII. I am not as crazy as you. These disparate items do
> >> >> >> >> >> >> not appear to go together. I'm sure that with the extra voices you have
> >> >> >> >> >> >> going in your head this conversation is seamless, but us sane people are
> >> >> >> >> >> >> missing half (or more) of your conversation.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Same question applied to the American side or point of view.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm sure it does... What do your other voices tell you is the answer?
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Shill #2
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
> >> >> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >Evidence exclusion and perpetual denial has been mainstream status quo
> >> >> >> >> >> >for centuries, if not thousands of years.  How many thousand
> >> >> >> >> >> >documented examples of government and faith-based lies upon lies and
> >> >> >> >> >> >of subsequent consequences would you like to ponder?
>
> >> >> >> >> >> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> >> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble. Babble  babble babble babble
> >> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble babble
> >> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble?
>
> >> >> >> >> >> > ~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG
>
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> ~ Shill #2 Shill_#2 Shill.#2 Shill#2 S2
>
> >> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
> >> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
>
> >> >> >> >> >Here?s yet another good one, as recently published in Popular Science,
> >> >> >> >> >of where the DARPA mainstream is continually trying to snooker and
> >> >> >> >> >dumbfound its way along.
>
> >> >> >> >> >?To get the resolution to the point where one pixel was the size of a
> >> >> >> >> >foot print, Hubble would need a primary mirror of 2,400 feet in
> >> >> >> >> >diameter?
>
> >> >> >> >> >Every 5th graders knows or at least should know that the size of a
> >> >> >> >> >primary mirror has nothing to do with optical magnification or of its
> >> >> >> >> >pixel resolution.  GeoEye at a low orbit that?s easily doable, as such
> >> >> >> >> >could image our physically dark as coal Selene/moon as tight as an
> >> >> >> >> >Apollo moon-boot foot print per pixel.  The USAF has had better than
> >> >> >> >> >GeoEye optics as of decades ago.
>
> >> >> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>
> >> >> >> >> Maybe. But your 5th graders would also understand that GeoEye-1 is
> >> >> >> >> 681km/423 miles above the objects it is looking at. The Moon is
> >> >> >> >> 384,000km/238600 miles from the Hubble Space Telescope.
>
> >> >> >> >>http://launch.geoeye.com/LaunchSite/about/fact_sheet.aspx
>
> >> >> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain it to you.
>
> >> >> >> >What's to explain?
>
> >> >> >> What's to explain? Well... The quote you cited "?To get the resolution to
> >> >> >> the point where one pixel was the size of a foot print, Hubble would need a
> >> >> >> primary mirror of 2,400 feet in diameter?"
>
> >> >> >> Followed by your contention that "Every 5th graders knows or at least
> >> >> >> should know that the size of a primary mirror has nothing to do with
> >> >> >> optical magnification or of its pixel resolution. GeoEye at a low orbit..."
>
> >> >> >> You are trying to tell us that "They" are lying about why the Hubble Space
> >> >> >> Telescope's resolution is not good enough to see objects on the Moon and
> >> >> >> then you give us the example of a telescope in low Earth orbit.
>
> >> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain to you that you are comparing
> >> >> >> oranges and apples.
>
> >> >> >> >Put GeoEye at 68 km away from the physically dark as coal Selene/moon,
> >> >> >> >and you'll be getting the resolution I'd mentioned, and that's raw w/o
> >> >> >> >PhotoShop enlargements.
>
> >> >> >> >The USAF has had equal or better than GeoEye 2 for more than three
> >> >> >> >decades, and that's worth better than 2.5 mm resolution when placed
> >> >> >> >into the much lower orbit around our moon.
>
> >> >> >> And what... you would believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they
> >> >> >> flew a satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
> >> >> >> footprints?
>
> >> >> >> Of course you wouldn't!
>
> >> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>
> >> >> >What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
> >> >> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
> >> >> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
> >> >> >understand?
>
> >> >> > ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>
> >> >> Nice tap dance there ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG. Don't
> >> >> even try to address the points, just bluster and maybe no one will notice.
>
> >> >In other words, I've got each of you brain dead and pecker sucking
> >> >bastards on that one.
>
> >> No. You have got nothing. Not even a lucid reply. You are still just tap
> >> dancing about, hoping to not have to answer the question.
>
> >> Would you believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they flew a
> >> satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
> >> footprints?
>
> >> >?What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
> >> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
> >> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
> >> >understand??
>
> >> This rant has nothing to do with the question posed. I know the question is
> >> not written in Babble. I don't speak Babble. Can you get a 5th grader to
> >> translate it for you?
>
> >Wow, even the Great Guthball resorts to the gay sex stuff. Very
> >disappointing.
>
> Anything to avoid the question. He's been caught bullshitting and hopes
> that no on else will notice. He seems to think he can drop in some typical
> kOOKer gay lames and maybe I'll go away.

Typical Zionist/Nazi tactics you have.  Hitler would be soooo proud of
you.

 ~ BG

In article <c7e0d5bb-89d1-4330-9e84-55f39fe042b2
@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says...
> On Sep 21, 10:20 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:51:16 -0400, BDK 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >In article ,
> > >gov.sh...@gmail.com says...
> > >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >On Sep 21, 9:14 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> > >> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:08:52 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> > >> >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >On Sep 21, 1:43 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> > >> >> >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:30:48 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> > >> >> >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >On Sep 20, 1:19 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> > >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 12:22 pm, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> > >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:49 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:41:26 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 11:30 am, Government Shill #2  wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 19, 6:30 am, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article ,
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BradGuth   wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You obviously live in a pretend world, where governments and their
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >faith-based puppet masters do not continually lie their mutual cold-
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >war perpetrating butts off.
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No, but unlike you we aren't willing to believe anything so long as
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> it obvious nonsense.
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Now the regular laws of physics and best available science is "obvious
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >nonsense"?
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~ BG
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only when interpreted by you ~ BG. You take science, run it through your
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> internal processor and out comes "babble babble babble bable..."
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >How many tens of thousands of USSR government, military and civil
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >service jobs plus whatever employed and/or retirement benefits were on
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >the line at the end of WWII?
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Huh? See ~ BG? This is what I mean about the incomprehensibility of your
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> posts. One post you are talking about physics, the next you are waffling
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> about the USSR and WWII. I am not as crazy as you. These disparate items do
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> not appear to go together. I'm sure that with the extra voices you have
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> going in your head this conversation is seamless, but us sane people are
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> missing half (or more) of your conversation.
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Same question applied to the American side or point of view.
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm sure it does... What do your other voices tell you is the answer?
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Shill #2
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >Evidence exclusion and perpetual denial has been mainstream status quo
> > >> >> >> >> >> >for centuries, if not thousands of years.  How many thousand
> > >> >> >> >> >> >documented examples of government and faith-based lies upon lies and
> > >> >> >> >> >> >of subsequent consequences would you like to ponder?
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> Babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble
> > >> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble. Babble  babble babble babble
> > >> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble-babble babble babble babble
> > >> >> >> >> >> babble babble babble babble babble babble babble babble?
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > ~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> >> >> ~ Shill #2 Shill_#2 Shill.#2 Shill#2 S2
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
> > >> >> >> >> >>  theobviousgcashman
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >Here?s yet another good one, as recently published in Popular Science,
> > >> >> >> >> >of where the DARPA mainstream is continually trying to snooker and
> > >> >> >> >> >dumbfound its way along.
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >?To get the resolution to the point where one pixel was the size of a
> > >> >> >> >> >foot print, Hubble would need a primary mirror of 2,400 feet in
> > >> >> >> >> >diameter?
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >Every 5th graders knows or at least should know that the size of a
> > >> >> >> >> >primary mirror has nothing to do with optical magnification or of its
> > >> >> >> >> >pixel resolution.  GeoEye at a low orbit that?s easily doable, as such
> > >> >> >> >> >could image our physically dark as coal Selene/moon as tight as an
> > >> >> >> >> >Apollo moon-boot foot print per pixel.  The USAF has had better than
> > >> >> >> >> >GeoEye optics as of decades ago.
> >
> > >> >> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
> >
> > >> >> >> >> Maybe. But your 5th graders would also understand that GeoEye-1 is
> > >> >> >> >> 681km/423 miles above the objects it is looking at. The Moon is
> > >> >> >> >> 384,000km/238600 miles from the Hubble Space Telescope.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>http://launch.geoeye.com/LaunchSite/about/fact_sheet.aspx
> >
> > >> >> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain it to you.
> >
> > >> >> >> >What's to explain?
> >
> > >> >> >> What's to explain? Well... The quote you cited "?To get the resolution to
> > >> >> >> the point where one pixel was the size of a foot print, Hubble would need a
> > >> >> >> primary mirror of 2,400 feet in diameter?"
> >
> > >> >> >> Followed by your contention that "Every 5th graders knows or at least
> > >> >> >> should know that the size of a primary mirror has nothing to do with
> > >> >> >> optical magnification or of its pixel resolution. GeoEye at a low orbit..."
> >
> > >> >> >> You are trying to tell us that "They" are lying about why the Hubble Space
> > >> >> >> Telescope's resolution is not good enough to see objects on the Moon and
> > >> >> >> then you give us the example of a telescope in low Earth orbit.
> >
> > >> >> >> Maybe you should get a 5th grader to explain to you that you are comparing
> > >> >> >> oranges and apples.
> >
> > >> >> >> >Put GeoEye at 68 km away from the physically dark as coal Selene/moon,
> > >> >> >> >and you'll be getting the resolution I'd mentioned, and that's raw w/o
> > >> >> >> >PhotoShop enlargements.
> >
> > >> >> >> >The USAF has had equal or better than GeoEye 2 for more than three
> > >> >> >> >decades, and that's worth better than 2.5 mm resolution when placed
> > >> >> >> >into the much lower orbit around our moon.
> >
> > >> >> >> And what... you would believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they
> > >> >> >> flew a satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
> > >> >> >> footprints?
> >
> > >> >> >> Of course you wouldn't!
> >
> > >> >> >> >  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
> >
> > >> >> >What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
> > >> >> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
> > >> >> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
> > >> >> >understand?
> >
> > >> >> > ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
> >
> > >> >> Nice tap dance there ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG. Don't
> > >> >> even try to address the points, just bluster and maybe no one will notice.
> >
> > >> >In other words, I've got each of you brain dead and pecker sucking
> > >> >bastards on that one.
> >
> > >> No. You have got nothing. Not even a lucid reply. You are still just tap
> > >> dancing about, hoping to not have to answer the question.
> >
> > >> Would you believe the USAF (an Evil Guvmint Entity) if they flew a
> > >> satellite to the Moon and sent back pictures of Neil Armstrong's
> > >> footprints?
> >
> > >> >?What exactly is it about US and USSR government, military and of
> > >> >nearly countless civil service related job security with vast benefits
> > >> >that you and others of your mainstream status quo kind do not
> > >> >understand??
> >
> > >> This rant has nothing to do with the question posed. I know the question is
> > >> not written in Babble. I don't speak Babble. Can you get a 5th grader to
> > >> translate it for you?
> >
> > >Wow, even the Great Guthball resorts to the gay sex stuff. Very
> > >disappointing.
> >
> > Anything to avoid the question. He's been caught bullshitting and hopes
> > that no on else will notice. He seems to think he can drop in some typical
> > kOOKer gay lames and maybe I'll go away.
> 
> Typical Zionist/Nazi tactics you have.  Hitler would be soooo proud of
> you.
> 
>  ~ BG
> 


Wow, it must be so tiring, doing all that tap dancing to avoid answering 
the question.
-- 
BDK

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