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date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:08:37 +0000,    group: uk.sci.astronomy        back       
That Bresser in Lidl   
Bah

My wife informed me yesterday that she'd gone into my local Lidl on the 
morning of the 17th to obtain said scope for me for a pressie, but they 
were sold out...

-- 
Abo
date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:08:37 +0000   author:   Abo ks

Re: That Bresser in Lidl   
"Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message 
news:fktg7t$d6j$1@news.albasani.net...
> Bah
>
> My wife informed me yesterday that she'd gone into my local Lidl on the 
> morning of the 17th to obtain said scope for me for a pressie, but they 
> were sold out...
>
> -- 
> Abo

Check Aldis as well. One was selling a refractor the other a reflector. 
Similar low prices.
date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:37:52 GMT   author:   Beeblebrox

Re: That Bresser in Lidl   
Beeblebrox wrote:
> "Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message 
> news:fktg7t$d6j$1@news.albasani.net...
>> Bah
>>
>> My wife informed me yesterday that she'd gone into my local Lidl on the 
>> morning of the 17th to obtain said scope for me for a pressie, but they 
>> were sold out...
>>
>> -- 
>> Abo
> 
> Check Aldis as well. One was selling a refractor the other a reflector. 
> Similar low prices. 
> 
> 
Thanks, I'll have a look

-- 
Abo
date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:42:20 +0000   author:   Abo ks

Re: That Bresser in Lidl   
dennis@home wrote:
> 
> 
> "Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message 
> news:fl2csu$cp9$1@news.albasani.net...
>> Beeblebrox wrote:
>>> "Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message 
>>> news:fktg7t$d6j$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>> Bah
>>>>
>>>> My wife informed me yesterday that she'd gone into my local Lidl on 
>>>> the morning of the 17th to obtain said scope for me for a pressie, 
>>>> but they were sold out...
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Abo
>>>
>>> Check Aldis as well. One was selling a refractor the other a 
>>> reflector. Similar low prices.
>> Thanks, I'll have a look
> 
> They still had one telescope in the Great Bridge lidl this morning.
> They had three in the Carters Green lidl yesterday.

Are they still on offer? To be honest, I'm probably going to spend a bit 
more, there are some 6" Newtonian reflectors on eBay going for about 
£120, with an equatorial mount and 6.5mm Plossel eyepiece. With a 1400mm 
focal length that'll give me what, x215? Comes with a 25mm one too. I 
reckon it being a 6" should be useful, unless it turns out to be a dog 
of course... Here's one:

http://snipurl.com/6inscope

So, while I wait for my expenses to come through which will fund it, 
what do you think? Buy or avoid?

-- 
Abo
date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:00:29 +0000   author:   Abo ks

Re: That Bresser in Lidl   
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:00:29 +0000, Abo <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
>
>Are they still on offer? To be honest, I'm probably going to spend a bit 
>more, there are some 6" Newtonian reflectors on eBay going for about 
>£120, with an equatorial mount and 6.5mm Plossel eyepiece. With a 1400mm 
>focal length that'll give me what, x215? Comes with a 25mm one too. I 
>reckon it being a 6" should be useful, unless it turns out to be a dog 
>of course... Here's one:
>
>http://snipurl.com/6inscope
>
>So, while I wait for my expenses to come through which will fund it, 
>what do you think? Buy or avoid?

Avoid.

The mount looks to be far too light for the aperture. 

The presence of a Sun filter in the package is *very* dangerous: They
must never be used, if you have, or get one, destroy it (safely). No
reputable telecope dealer would dream of including such a hazardous
item in any package, whatever the price. 

The focal length of 1400mm means that the faocal ratio is about 9.3 so
it looks like the 'scope has a built in lens in the focusser to extend
it. As these are a bit of a compromise and the fact that it is
constructed in such a way isn't mentioned is a worry.

Anyway, I wouldn't buy from anyone who does not capitalise the Earth's
Moon correctly, never mind the omitted apostrophe.

The standard text of choosing a first 'scope is here:

http://www.astunit.com/tutorials/firstscope.htm

In addition, the new Skywatcher auto tracking models are well worth
considering:

http://www.opticalvision.co.uk/astronomical_telescopes/sky-watcher/auto-tracking_telecopes

- Mike
date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:52:06 +0000   author:   Mike Murphy

Re: That Bresser in Lidl   
Mike Murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:00:29 +0000, Abo <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
>> Are they still on offer? To be honest, I'm probably going to spend a bit 
>> more, there are some 6" Newtonian reflectors on eBay going for about 
>> £120, with an equatorial mount and 6.5mm Plossel eyepiece. With a 1400mm 
>> focal length that'll give me what, x215? Comes with a 25mm one too. I 
>> reckon it being a 6" should be useful, unless it turns out to be a dog 
>> of course... Here's one:
>>
>> http://snipurl.com/6inscope
>>
>> So, while I wait for my expenses to come through which will fund it, 
>> what do you think? Buy or avoid?
> 
> Avoid.
> 
> The mount looks to be far too light for the aperture. 

Good point, they say it's 18kg...

> The presence of a Sun filter in the package is *very* dangerous: They
> must never be used, if you have, or get one, destroy it (safely). No
> reputable telecope dealer would dream of including such a hazardous
> item in any package, whatever the price. 

Absolutely! I would never go anywhere near the sun with something like 
that...

> The focal length of 1400mm means that the faocal ratio is about 9.3 so
> it looks like the 'scope has a built in lens in the focusser to extend
> it. As these are a bit of a compromise and the fact that it is
> constructed in such a way isn't mentioned is a worry.
> 
> Anyway, I wouldn't buy from anyone who does not capitalise the Earth's
> Moon correctly, never mind the omitted apostrophe.
> 
> The standard text of choosing a first 'scope is here:
> 

Thanks, I'll read up on that when I get a moment

-- 
Abo
date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:30:09 +0000   author:   Abo ks

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