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date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 04:50:06 +0100 (CET),    group: uk.sci.astronomy        back       
Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
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I've been mulling over the long list of things to be grateful
for this Thanksgiving, and indeed the list is far too verbose
to recount here. I do give thanks that all souls are immortal,
and that every soul shall be Judged, each according to their
works of good and evil. I thank God for the eternal realms of
heaven & hell. I thank God that Antichrists shall burn in Hell,
and that all their worldly riches and worldly power won't save
them. President, Pope, it makes NO difference. Judgment awaits...

So, I am focusing on several key points which give Christians
comfort awaiting the hour that ignites Armageddon and the end
of the world, which Jesus said is the greatest tribulation in
world history. Thus I am grateful to Jesus. Thank you, Jesus!

Even now, consider the blessings of escalating oil prices, and
growing anger and impatience across America with regard to the
Anti-Christ U.S. Government. The angrier & more frustrated the
better! Because Government couldn't care _less_ what happens to
anybody but themselves--obviously. And equally obvious, is the
fact that there is nothing anyone can do to stop them, or even
interfere with their imperialist "NWO" globalist agenda to rule,
own and control everything & everyone of the world with an iron
fist (which they pretty much do already). Jesus called you the
"father of lies". Of course, He's always right about everything.
I pray that oil tops $1000 per barrel within the next two years.
And I pray that bad economic news dominates all your news media.
I know, the controlling elite always profit regardless. But the
constant bad news for the poor helps to provoke the ire of Gods.
You see, that's the primary focus here, to piss God off ROYALLY!
The more you do that, thus the closer to the hour the world gets.
By now, you need to move your Armageddon Clock to about 11:59 PM.

Also, I am humbly grateful that the obvious strategic parallels
between Hitler and Bush are becoming readily apparent to anyone
even casually familiar with history, seeing the U.S. Government
has already vastly surpassed Hitler (retrospectively Bush-light)
and his Nazi regime, expanding their blood-for-oil invasions of
oil-rich countries unprovoked. They have made SO much bad karma,
with their barratrous lawyers, venal judges, puppet politicians,
and their legacy of wholesale injustice and scandals ad nauseam,
greed upon greed upon greed, ego upon ego upon ego: Anti-Christ!
Why cheap "illegal" Mexican labor? All for profit. Or why import
"illegal" drugs? All for profit. It's ALWAYS about money & power.

Their "housing mess" (what a joke, it's all a banker's shellgame),
their genocide of unborn human children "abortion" to the tune of
over one million per year! Their contempt for God! Their shame of
Jesus Christ! Their *established* official State religion of hard-
line Anti-Christian Atheism! Their nationwide ban on Christianity
in their Atheists-only Government! Banning the Ten Commandments &
the Golden Rule! They are everything across-the-board Anti-Christ,
Anti-God, Anti-Everything that is good and right about the whole
human race! That's the Imperialist U.S. Government in a nutshell.

Thus I am very grateful to God for the coming worldwide holocaust,
nuclear and biological Armageddon unto the end of this evil world.
I'm grateful that this world is being purged to clear the way for
Jesus Christ's return with the Dark clouds. I do look forward to
the betrayal and crucifixion of "In God We Trust". The Stars say
you have a Judas in your midst, someone very close to the button.

So please, WOB oligarchy, please continue to ignore the cries of
your slaves and do everything you can to bring anarchy and chaos
to the streets of America! This viciously Anti-Christian country
definitely deserves every horrific calamity the Prophets warned
most absolutely shall befall her. Thank you, NWO. You have made
the Nazis, & every other evil empire in history, all look like
freakin' choirboys! I knew you were evil, but I never realized
until these last few weeks just how utterly *EVIL* you all are.
Sieg Heil to our fearless Leader and Chancellor George W. Bush.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/

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date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 04:50:06 +0100 (CET)   author:   Nomen Nescio

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
"Nomen Nescio"  wrote in 
message 
news:6f0b192b1d9fbf20fae60b5b1329ad2d@dizum.com...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> I've been mulling over the long list of 
> things to be grateful
> for this Thanksgiving, and indeed the list 
> is far too verbose
> to recount here. I do give thanks that all 
> souls are immortal,
> and that every soul shall be Judged, each 
> according to their
> works of good and evil. I thank God for the 
> eternal realms of
> heaven & hell. I thank God that Antichrists 
> shall burn in Hell,
> and that all their worldly riches and 
> worldly power won't save
> them. President, Pope, it makes NO 
> difference. Judgment awaits...
>
> So, I am focusing on several key points 
> which give Christians
> comfort awaiting the hour that ignites 
> Armageddon and the end
> of the world, which Jesus said is the 
> greatest tribulation in
> world history. Thus I am grateful to Jesus. 
> Thank you, Jesus!
>
> Even now, consider the blessings of 
> escalating oil prices, and
> growing anger and impatience across America 
> with regard to the
> Anti-Christ U.S. Government. The angrier & 
> more frustrated the
> better! Because Government couldn't care 
> _less_ what happens to
> anybody but themselves--obviously. And 
> equally obvious, is the
> fact that there is nothing anyone can do to 
> stop them, or even
> interfere with their imperialist "NWO" 
> globalist agenda to rule,
> own and control everything & everyone of 
> the world with an iron
> fist (which they pretty much do already). 
> Jesus called you the
> "father of lies". Of course, He's always 
> right about everything.
> I pray that oil tops $1000 per barrel 
> within the next two years.
> And I pray that bad economic news dominates 
> all your news media.
> I know, the controlling elite always profit 
> regardless. But the
> constant bad news for the poor helps to 
> provoke the ire of Gods.
> You see, that's the primary focus here, to 
> piss God off ROYALLY!
> The more you do that, thus the closer to 
> the hour the world gets.
> By now, you need to move your Armageddon 
> Clock to about 11:59 PM.
>
> Also, I am humbly grateful that the obvious 
> strategic parallels
> between Hitler and Bush are becoming 
> readily apparent to anyone
> even casually familiar with history, seeing 
> the U.S. Government
> has already vastly surpassed Hitler 
> (retrospectively Bush-light)
> and his Nazi regime, expanding their 
> blood-for-oil invasions of
> oil-rich countries unprovoked. They have 
> made SO much bad karma,
> with their barratrous lawyers, venal 
> judges, puppet politicians,
> and their legacy of wholesale injustice and 
> scandals ad nauseam,
> greed upon greed upon greed, ego upon ego 
> upon ego: Anti-Christ!
> Why cheap "illegal" Mexican labor? All for 
> profit. Or why import
> "illegal" drugs? All for profit. It's 
> ALWAYS about money & power.
>
> Their "housing mess" (what a joke, it's all 
> a banker's shellgame),
> their genocide of unborn human children 
> "abortion" to the tune of
> over one million per year! Their contempt 
> for God! Their shame of
> Jesus Christ! Their *established* official 
> State religion of hard-
> line Anti-Christian Atheism! Their 
> nationwide ban on Christianity
> in their Atheists-only Government! Banning 
> the Ten Commandments &
> the Golden Rule! They are everything 
> across-the-board Anti-Christ,
> Anti-God, Anti-Everything that is good and 
> right about the whole
> human race! That's the Imperialist U.S. 
> Government in a nutshell.
>
> Thus I am very grateful to God for the 
> coming worldwide holocaust,
> nuclear and biological Armageddon unto the 
> end of this evil world.
> I'm grateful that this world is being 
> purged to clear the way for
> Jesus Christ's return with the Dark clouds. 
> I do look forward to
> the betrayal and crucifixion of "In God We 
> Trust". The Stars say
> you have a Judas in your midst, someone 
> very close to the button.


I have come to assuage your angst!

All the world's problems catalogued above 
have *one* simple cause.
Not two, not three, but one.  One solely. 
Just one. Only one, and it is this: there 
are...

1/  TOO
2/  MANY
3/  PEOPLE

Of *course* there are wars, politics, bad 
manners and ugliness, because TOO MANY PEOPLE 
are competing for the same dwindling 
resources.

This is not physics, medicine, philosophy, 
archaeology, religion or even higher 
learning.
It is just...

1/ COMMON
2/ SENSE!

De Profundis (from every killfile) I have 
tried to preach this *simple* concept, and 
point out than nobody is even listening, let 
alone doing anything about it.

Africa is a good example of this, in the Nile 
valley and in Ethiopia.  In good times the 
dear people have lots & lots of babies and 
all are happy :-).     In bad times there is 
starvation and warfare and everybody is sad 
:-(.     It's that fugging simple!

There *must* be a better way; and there 
*is*...!

It's no use building dams, penicillin 
factories, and autobahns if all the 
advantages are overloaded by a subsequent 
glut of  TOO MANY PEOPLE!

Population control *must* be factored in!

If Yahweh were alive today he would not say 
"increase & multiply": rather he would reduce 
the number of eggs women's ovaries to three, 
and say "quality counts!"

Are you listening to all this!?

Gimme some support here!
date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:17:15 +1100   author:   Peter Jason

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
On Nov 9, 12:17 am, "Peter Jason"  wrote:

> All the world's problems catalogued above
> have *one* simple cause.
> Not two, not three, but one.  One solely.
> Just one. Only one, and it is this: there
> are...
>
> 1/  TOO
> 2/  MANY
> 3/  PEOPLE

Which raises the question:  How many children do YOU have, or plan to
have?
date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:56:13 -0800   author:   unknown

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
"Nomen Nescio"  wrote in message 
news:6f0b192b1d9fbf20fae60b5b1329ad2d@dizum.com...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> I've been mulling over the long list of things to be grateful
> for this Thanksgiving, and indeed the list is far too verbose
> to recount here. I do give thanks that all souls are immortal,
> and that every soul shall be Judged, each according to their
> works of good and evil.

Why?

Why are you pleased that evil people go to Hell, if that is what you mean?
date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:23:38 +1100   author:   Peter Webb

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
wrote in message 
news:1194699373.212483.245790@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 9, 12:17 am, "Peter Jason" 
>  wrote:
>
>> All the world's problems catalogued above
>> have *one* simple cause.
>> Not two, not three, but one.  One solely.
>> Just one. Only one, and it is this: there
>> are...
>>
>> 1/  TOO
>> 2/  MANY
>> 3/  PEOPLE
>
> Which raises the question:  How many 
> children do YOU have, or plan to
> have?

Me? None.  But on average if families limited 
their breeding to two children/pair then at 
least the burden on the planet would not 
increase.

The Western world is not to blame for the 
present disasters but rather Africa Asia and, 
of course, muslims.

Are we to have standing room only?
date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:06:42 +1100   author:   Peter Jason

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
On Nov 10, 5:06 pm, "Peter Jason"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:1194699373.212483.245790@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 9, 12:17 am, "Peter Jason"
> >  wrote:
>
> >> All the world's problems catalogued above
> >> have *one* simple cause.
> >> Not two, not three, but one.  One solely.
> >> Just one. Only one, and it is this: there
> >> are...
>
> >> 1/  TOO
> >> 2/  MANY
> >> 3/  PEOPLE
>
> > Which raises the question:  How many
> > children do YOU have, or plan to
> > have?
>
> Me? None.  But on average if families limited
> their breeding to two children/pair then at
> least the burden on the planet would not
> increase.
>

Good answer.  It's always entertaining to find out that some
environmentalist who complains about overpopulation has three or four
or five children (or for that matter a private jet and 10000 square
foot mansion w/heated pool.)  An average of four surviving children
per woman doubles the population every 30 years or so, which seems to
have been what happened during the latter half of the twentieth
century.  Everyone has an equal right to be here and raise a family,
so this is a tough issue.

> The Western world is not to blame for the
> present disasters

Industrialized countries burn more fossil fuel per capita than
developing countries, but everyone needs to eat and this can lead to a
great deal of deforestation for agriculture pretty much everywhere, so
there is plenty of blame to go around.  Although I would favor heaping
it onto the hypocrites first.
date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:58:45 -0800   author:   unknown

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
wrote in message 
news:1194789525.096990.268600@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 10, 5:06 pm, "Peter Jason" 
>  wrote:
>>  wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194699373.212483.245790@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 9, 12:17 am, "Peter Jason"
>> >  wrote:
>>
>> >> All the world's problems catalogued 
>> >> above
>> >> have *one* simple cause.
>> >> Not two, not three, but one.  One 
>> >> solely.
>> >> Just one. Only one, and it is this: 
>> >> there
>> >> are...
>>
>> >> 1/  TOO
>> >> 2/  MANY
>> >> 3/  PEOPLE
>>
>> > Which raises the question:  How many
>> > children do YOU have, or plan to
>> > have?
>>
>> Me? None.  But on average if families 
>> limited
>> their breeding to two children/pair then 
>> at
>> least the burden on the planet would not
>> increase.
>>
>
> Good answer.  It's always entertaining to 
> find out that some
> environmentalist who complains about 
> overpopulation has three or four
> or five children (or for that matter a 
> private jet and 10000 square
> foot mansion w/heated pool.)  An average of 
> four surviving children
> per woman doubles the population every 30 
> years or so, which seems to
> have been what happened during the latter 
> half of the twentieth
> century.  Everyone has an equal right to be 
> here and raise a family,
> so this is a tough issue.
>
>> The Western world is not to blame for the
>> present disasters
>
> Industrialized countries burn more fossil 
> fuel per capita than
> developing countries, but everyone needs to 
> eat and this can lead to a
> great deal of deforestation for agriculture 
> pretty much everywhere, so
> there is plenty of blame to go around. 
> Although I would favor heaping
> it onto the hypocrites first.


Fossil fuels are often in the newspapers 
because readers have a direct connection with 
automobiles, but equally serious is the state 
of the chemical industry most of which has 
petroleum as a feedstock - particularly 
ethylene.  The situation is dire, and in the 
near future the political balance of power 
will shift to Russia and similar places awash 
with petroleum.

Demand drives these things, and demand is 
people and this leads to the obvious 
conclusion.  Hackles rise over this 
controlled-birth-rate concept is foreign to 
all thinking because of womens' natural 
desire to have children, the need for "more 
consumers" for business, and to fill in the 
losses from disease and war.    In primitive 
societies reduction in the birth-rate will 
not happen voluntarily and so must be 
contrived with some biological agent to 
suppress fecundity.  Anything done in this 
direction must be better than the status quo, 
particularly in that disgusting continent of 
Africa.
date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:55:18 +1100   author:   Peter Jason

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
On Nov 11, 3:55 pm, "Peter Jason"  wrote:

<snip>

Peter Jason, I'm not sure why you would pick on Africa, it has 20% of
the land area, but considerably less than 20% of the population and
therefore a relatively low population density.  There are less than a
billion people on the continent and its three most populous countries
have a total of less than 300 million, and only one of those is even
in the top ten of the world's most populous.  The two most populous
countries in the world each have more people than all of Africa.
date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:53:48 -0800   author:   unknown

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
wrote in message 
news:1194821628.627662.97340@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 11, 3:55 pm, "Peter Jason" 
>  wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Peter Jason, I'm not sure why you would 
> pick on Africa, it has 20% of
> the land area, but considerably less than 
> 20% of the population and
> therefore a relatively low population 
> density.  There are less than a
> billion people on the continent and its 
> three most populous countries
> have a total of less than 300 million, and 
> only one of those is even
> in the top ten of the world's most 
> populous.  The two most populous
> countries in the world each have more 
> people than all of Africa.

Numbers aside, a good place to start is in 
the country of greatest need.  A notorious 
example in the Biafran starvation in the 
1980s when the rain failed in Ethiopia 
causing the death of millions.  Unlike Egypt 
the Ethiopians have failed to harness the 
water in the  Nile and they seem quite 
content to allow  'natural selection' to take 
its course.  And now the weather there has 
stabilized, only  the usual war, genocide and 
displacements kill off a few, until the next 
drought produces a re-run of the usual 
scenario.    Africa in particular is 
extremely tribal and the creation of the 
present states have done nothing to arrest 
the routine killing and coups.  Who in his 
right mind would install infracture into this 
jungle, when the next tribal brawl would 
negate everything?   In the 1960s the long 
anticipated Garston-cut canal was commenced 
to bypass the Sudd swamp so that the 
headwaters of the White Nile might not lose 
75% of its volume due to seepage and 
evaporation there, thereby increasing the 
water flow in the Nile proper by 25%, but 
when the canal was about 80% complete some 
tribal concern about "watering cattle" and 
some vague nonsense about "autonomy" started 
the usual guerrilla action to shut down the 
project completely. All the machinery lies 
rotting in a ditch to this day.      Less 
population could only lessen the driving 
force for more trouble.   Since 
de-colonialization the Western world has 
dropped c.$US400billion into the African 
cesspit nearly all of which has disappeared 
into off-shore bank accounts and into arming 
the Neanderthals with every sort of 
superseded weaponry.  Colonialism ended 200 
years too soon.   Msrrs Gates & Buffett might 
better utilize their conscience-money in 
acquiring a pregnancy vaccine on the 
assumption that the malaria vectors cannot 
bite people who are not there!  Nor can the 
HIV virus infect people who have never been 
born.
date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:35:46 +1100   author:   Peter Jason

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
On Nov 11, 10:35 pm, "Peter Jason"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:1194821628.627662.97340@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 3:55 pm, "Peter Jason"
> >  wrote:
>


 <snip>

>
> Numbers aside,

Back on Nov 9th, you implied that all problems are caused by "too many
people."
date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:52:15 -0800   author:   unknown

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
wrote in message
news:1194864735.436837.39050@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 11, 10:35 pm, "Peter Jason"
>  wrote:
>>  wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194821628.627662.97340@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 11, 3:55 pm, "Peter Jason"
>> >  wrote:
>>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> Numbers aside,
>
> Back on Nov 9th, you implied that all
> problems are caused by "too many
> people."
>

Yes, I did.
date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:46:16 +1100   author:   Peter Jason

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
On Nov 12, 3:35 am, "Peter Jason"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:1194821628.627662.97340@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 3:55 pm, "Peter Jason"
> >  wrote:
>
> > <snip>

>
> Numbers aside, a good place to start is in
> the country of greatest need.  A notorious
> example in the Biafran starvation in the
> 1980s when the rain failed in Ethiopia
> causing the death of millions.

Biafra is in Nigeria
date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:31:56 -0800   author:   Mike Collins

Re: Worse *IS* Better: Thanksgiving 2007   
"Mike Collins" 
 wrote in 
message 
news:1194903116.907356.145120@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 12, 3:35 am, "Peter Jason" 
>  wrote:
>>  wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194821628.627662.97340@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 11, 3:55 pm, "Peter Jason"
>> >  wrote:
>>
>> > <snip>
>
>>
>> Numbers aside, a good place to start is in
>> the country of greatest need.  A notorious
>> example in the Biafran starvation in the
>> 1980s when the rain failed in Ethiopia
>> causing the death of millions.
>
> Biafra is in Nigeria

Well then, they must have moved it.
But what's the difference? The whole cesspit 
is one natural-selection swamp.
date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:09:39 +1100   author:   Peter Jason

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