When, during my RN National Service some 55 years ago, I was moved 
around Britain by rail (being posted between ships or on annual leave) I 
was given a warrant that I exchanged for a ticket at the departing 
station booking office.  Similar warrants were used in later years when 
I travelled around on Civil Service business.
    Are such warrants used today?  If they are, are they used by MPs or 
do they simply state that they travelled from Here > There (First Class, 
of course), claiming the fare back from the HoC - without any check that 
the journey had been made?

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DB.

On Oct 28, 7:04 pm, "DB."  wrote:
>     Are such warrants used today?

Yes, very much so.  Used one a couple of days ago.

Can't answer your question about MPs, though.

PhilD

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"PhilD"  wrote in message 
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On Oct 28, 7:04 pm, "DB."  wrote:

> Are (railway) warrants used today?

Yes, very much so.  Used one a couple of days ago.

PhilD

Was that in govt. or local govt. service?  Can private firms use the 
'warrant' system?

-- 
DB.

On Oct 28, 7:22 pm, "DB."  wrote:
> Was that in govt. or local govt. service?  Can private firms use the
> 'warrant' system?


I work for the consultancy arm of a railway infrastructure
contractor.  My previous (private) employer used to use warrants.

Just asked my wife, who works for the NHS: they use warrants, too
(except they may change to using a booking agency soon).

PhilD

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DB. wrote:
>     When, during my RN National Service some 55 years ago, I was moved 
> around Britain by rail (being posted between ships or on annual leave) I 
> was given a warrant that I exchanged for a ticket at the departing 
> station booking office.  Similar warrants were used in later years when 
> I travelled around on Civil Service business.
>     Are such warrants used today?

Yes, certainly warrants still doing the rounds, although seem to be 
losing popularity. Network Rail used to have quite a lot but now not 
using them (at least not in our area), and we don't get the Forces 
customers we used to (can't remember if they'd changed or not). 
Probation probably mostly common I've seen.

Not sure about all central government travel but certainly some 
departments/house of commons have arrangements with business travel 
providers (that I presume includes rail). Talking to one company with a 
contract, apparently the MPs are suddenly strangely much more interested 
in this (more accountable, transparent) method :-).

Local government is a mix of styles, but there are certain procurement, 
OGC rules that have to be abided by I think.

-- 
Jan

In message <wS0Gm.1067$tF5.624@newsfe25.ams2>
          "DB."  wrote:

> 
> "PhilD"  wrote in message 
> news:e896f376-415e-4f3d-8764-03930e6e304f@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 28, 7:04 pm, "DB."  wrote:
> 
> > Are (railway) warrants used today?
> 
> Yes, very much so.  Used one a couple of days ago.
> 
> PhilD
> 
> Was that in govt. or local govt. service?  Can private firms use the 
> 'warrant' system?
> 

The BBC does, though I realise that's not a private company, nor is it a
government department.

-- 
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>

On 28 Oct, 19:22, "DB."  wrote:
> "PhilD"  wrote in message
>
> news:e896f376-415e-4f3d-8764-03930e6e304f@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 28, 7:04 pm, "DB."  wrote:
>
> > Are (railway) warrants used today?
>
> Yes, very much so.  Used one a couple of days ago.
>
> PhilD
>
> Was that in govt. or local govt. service?  Can private firms use the
> 'warrant' system?
>
> --
> DB.

When I was a Civil Servant (an Agency of what is now HMRC) we were
supposed to get tickets centrally from an agency but if there wasn't
time to get the tickets through the post we just bought a ticket and
claimed the money back. Some people, of course, couldn't be bothered
to get tickets in advance so got all their tickets at the booking
office.

In message <b1827db150%rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>, rail 
 writes
>> Was that in govt. or local govt. service?  Can private firms use the
>> 'warrant' system?
>>
>
>The BBC does, though I realise that's not a private company, nor is it a
>government department.
>
I'm fairly certain when I spent a couple of days at Henry Wood House 
(around 1979 I think - definitely pre-marriage because I married an 
engineer and had to change departments... such were the rules of the 
day!) I was working in Engineering Information at Pebble Mill at the 
time) it was a case of claiming the fare back afterwards, rather than 
being issued a warrant beforehand - we possibly had different systems in 
the regions, though. The last time I used a warrant was in the mid 
1970s, issued by Scripture Union for the ISCF holiday/weekend courses I 
went on. I must admit I had wondered whether they were still in use, 
too.
-- 
Jane Partridge

On 28 Oct, 19:04, "DB."  wrote:
>     Are such warrants used today?  

Yes.

Fairly recently I've seen Forces/MoD, police, prison service. The only
private sector one I can remember seeing is a large cosmetics company.

Owain

In message <TR8pKJQ1XM6KJw4+@pebble.demon.co.uk>
          Jane Partridge  wrote:

> In message <b1827db150%rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>, rail 
>  writes
> >> Was that in govt. or local govt. service?  Can private firms use the
> >> 'warrant' system?
> >>
> >
> >The BBC does, though I realise that's not a private company, nor is it a
> >government department.
> >
> I'm fairly certain when I spent a couple of days at Henry Wood House 
> (around 1979 I think - definitely pre-marriage because I married an 
> engineer and had to change departments... such were the rules of the 
> day!) I was working in Engineering Information at Pebble Mill at the 
> time) 

You must have been the legendary EIEIO...

> it was a case of claiming the fare back afterwards, rather than 
> being issued a warrant beforehand - we possibly had different systems in 
> the regions, though. 

We got them while attending training courses at Wood Norton, one return every
fortnight IIRC.  Other times it was pay and claim back.


-- 
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:39:49 +0000, Jan Buxton 
wrote:

>DB. wrote:
>>     When, during my RN National Service some 55 years ago, I was moved 
>> around Britain by rail (being posted between ships or on annual leave) I 
>> was given a warrant that I exchanged for a ticket at the departing 
>> station booking office.  Similar warrants were used in later years when 
>> I travelled around on Civil Service business.
>>     Are such warrants used today?
>
>Yes, certainly warrants still doing the rounds, although seem to be 
>losing popularity. 
>
They've changed the name of the facility to "Rail Travel Accounts" but
helpfully still refer to "warrants" :-
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/acceptable_payment_types.html#warrants

Company credit cards have possibly also done their bit to cut down on
their use.

>Network Rail used to have quite a lot but now not 
>using them (at least not in our area), and we don't get the Forces 
>customers we used to (can't remember if they'd changed or not). 
>Probation probably mostly common I've seen.
>
>Not sure about all central government travel but certainly some 
>departments/house of commons have arrangements with business travel 
>providers (that I presume includes rail). Talking to one company with a 
>contract, apparently the MPs are suddenly strangely much more interested 
>in this (more accountable, transparent) method :-).
>
>Local government is a mix of styles, but there are certain procurement, 
>OGC rules that have to be abided by I think.

Charles Ellson 
  wibbled on Friday 30 October 2009 06:36

>>Local government is a mix of styles, but there are certain procurement,
>>OGC rules that have to be abided by I think.

When I was in the civil service back in the 90's, I did find a book of rail
warrents - but by then my department was working on a buy and claim back
later system.

-- 
Tim Watts

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