An article has appeared in the Keighley News about the derailment of
47760 at the recent 40th anniversary festival.
http://www.keighleynews.co.uk/display.var.2389001.0.railway_volunteers_praised_after_derailment.php

I have to agree that the railway responded quickly, calmly and
professionally to this accident, and the vast majority of the
travelling public (and drinking public - there was a beer festival at
Oxenhope shed) took things with good humour.

It was wonderful watching the railway's civil maintenance gang spring
into action, totally unflustered by proceedings. Total time between
the derailment and the track being back in action cannot have been
much more than 5-6 hours.

I do wonder what actually went wrong - the railway seems to be very
much closing ranks on that one. I suspect people were trying to do too
much in too short a space of time in Oxenhope yard.

> I do wonder what actually went wrong - the railway seems to be very
> much closing ranks on that one. I suspect people were trying to do too
> much in too short a space of time in Oxenhope yard.
>
Didn't 47760 fail with a seized axle this week- Could that be the reason- 
perhaps it seized causing the derailment before becoming 'free' for another 
few miles, and acquiring a wheelskate.

"turbo"  wrote in message 
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>
>> I do wonder what actually went wrong - the railway seems to be very
>> much closing ranks on that one. I suspect people were trying to do too
>> much in too short a space of time in Oxenhope yard.
>>
> Didn't 47760 fail with a seized axle this week- Could that be the reason- 
> perhaps it seized causing the derailment before becoming 'free' for 
> another few miles, and acquiring a wheelskate.

I read in our local paper, the Bradford Telegraph and Argus, (forgotten the 
date unfortunately) that the locomotive derailed whilst the points were 
being changed by hand.
Regards
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:28:53 +0100, M Platting wrote:

>I do wonder what actually went wrong - the railway seems to be very
>much closing ranks on that one. I suspect people were trying to do too
>much in too short a space of time in Oxenhope yard.

According to Rail a facing point lock hadn't been engaged and it
approached from the facing end. The accompanying photo certainly has
it sitting in the centre of the trailing lines!


Jim

The matter has been referred to the RAIB, as is required by law and in the 
meantime the railway is not saying any more about it.;

That is normal practice with railway accidents I understand.


I should point out that I am not making what could be seen as an official 
statement, just talking for myself.

"Jim"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:28:53 +0100, M Platting wrote:
>
>>I do wonder what actually went wrong - the railway seems to be very
>>much closing ranks on that one. I suspect people were trying to do too
>>much in too short a space of time in Oxenhope yard.
>
> According to Rail a facing point lock hadn't been engaged and it
> approached from the facing end. The accompanying photo certainly has
> it sitting in the centre of the trailing lines!
>
If that's the correct cause the RAIB will be able to cut and paste a report 
they did a year or so back about a similar incident on the MHR...

Paul

Paul Rigg wrote:
> The matter has been referred to the RAIB, as is required by law and in the 
> meantime the railway is not saying any more about it.;
> 
> That is normal practice with railway accidents I understand.
> 
> 
> I should point out that I am not making what could be seen as an official 
> statement, just talking for myself.

OTOH, it doesn't appear on the list of "current investigations" on the 
RAIB website, so presumably RAIB have decided not to pursue an 
investigation...  (the tram derailment in Manchester the day after does 
appear, so it's not just a case of the website not being updated).

In which case, it would be nice to know what the cause of the accident 
was, as someone who was inconvenienced by the accident.
-- 
Jeremy Double  {real address, include nospam}
Rail and transport photos at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmdouble/collections/72157603834894248/

In message , at 12:43:28 on 
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Jeremy Double  remarked:
>OTOH, it doesn't appear on the list of "current investigations" on the 
>RAIB website, so presumably RAIB have decided not to pursue an 
>investigation...  (the tram derailment in Manchester the day after does 
>appear, so it's not just a case of the website not being updated).

I've seen it take up to three weeks to announce an investigation, so 
it's not a foregone conclusion that there won't be one.
-- 
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry"  wrote in message
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> In message , at 12:43:28 on
> Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Jeremy Double  remarked:
> >OTOH, it doesn't appear on the list of "current investigations" on the
> >RAIB website, so presumably RAIB have decided not to pursue an
> >investigation...  (the tram derailment in Manchester the day after does
> >appear, so it's not just a case of the website not being updated).
>
> I've seen it take up to three weeks to announce an investigation, so
> it's not a foregone conclusion that there won't be one.

There was one recent investigation which only showed up on the website when
the report was published.

Peter

In message , at 12:52:24 on Mon, 14 Jul 
2008, Roland Perry  remarked:

>I've seen it take up to three weeks to announce an investigation,

RAIB today announced one of their investigations 22 days after an 
incident (Attleborough level crossing).
-- 
Roland Perry