Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on First Great
Western is entitled to a Standard Day Return ticket for £10 (First Day
Return for £20) for any travel on any FGW route/train on Saturdays,
Sundays or Bank Holidays between 5 July & 28 September.

The offer allows the season ticket holder, plus one other adult to
travel for the above mentioned prices, each. Up to four children can
travel for half the above fares with each season ticket holder.

Anyone who currently has an eligible season ticket should recieve a
letter with a voucher (and some free car parking tickets too!), but if
you're a new customer or want to make additional journeys you can
download one from http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/takeafriend.

Does anyone know if there is a cheaper monthly season than Clifton
Down - Bristol Temple Meads, which is £23.10?

On 3 Jul, 17:12, Joe Patrick  wrote:
> Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on First Great
> Western is entitled to a Standard Day Return ticket for £10 (First Day
> Return for £20) for any travel on any FGW route/train on Saturdays,
> Sundays or Bank Holidays between 5 July & 28 September.
>
> The offer allows the season ticket holder, plus one other adult to
> travel for the above mentioned prices, each. Up to four children can
> travel for half the above fares with each season ticket holder.
>
> Anyone who currently has an eligible season ticket should recieve a
> letter with a voucher (and some free car parking tickets too!), but if
> you're a new customer or want to make additional journeys you can
> download one fromhttp://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/takeafriend.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a cheaper monthly season than Clifton
> Down - Bristol Temple Meads, which is £23.10?

Devonport Devon - Devonport Dockyard monthly season is cheaper @ £8.10

Joe Patrick  wrote:
> Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on First Great
> Western is entitled to a Standard Day Return ticket for ?10 (First Day
> Return for ?20) for any travel on any FGW route/train on Saturdays,
> Sundays or Bank Holidays between 5 July & 28 September.

That's a Standard Class day return, not a Standard Day Return.  That means
it's valid on routes where an SDR doesn't exist, like London-Penzance.

Theo

Joe Patrick wrote:
> Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on First Great
> Western is entitled to a Standard Day Return ticket for £10 (First Day
> Return for £20) for any travel on any FGW route/train on Saturdays,
> Sundays or Bank Holidays between 5 July & 28 September.

Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on Chiltern is entitled 
to free travel anywhere on the Chiltern network at weekends and on Bank 
Holidays, all year round.

Jack Taylor  wrote:
> Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on Chiltern is entitled 
> to free travel anywhere on the Chiltern network at weekends and on Bank 
> Holidays, all year round. 

And the cheapest monthly season is? :->

Theo

On 3 Jul, 20:29, Theo Markettos <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
wrote:
> Jack Taylor  wrote:
> > Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on Chiltern is entitled
> > to free travel anywhere on the Chiltern network at weekends and on Bank
> > Holidays, all year round.
>
> And the cheapest monthly season is? :->
>
> Theo

According to Chiltern's website the offer is only for monthly seasons
worth over GBP150 and annuals worth over GBP1,500

Joe Patrick wrote:
> On 3 Jul, 20:29, Theo Markettos <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
> wrote:
>> Jack Taylor  wrote:
>>> Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on Chiltern is
>>> entitled to free travel anywhere on the Chiltern network at
>>> weekends and on Bank Holidays, all year round.
>>
>> And the cheapest monthly season is? :->
>
> According to Chiltern's website the offer is only for monthly seasons
> worth over GBP150 and annuals worth over GBP1,500

That's true - I'd forgotten that, although you don't exactly have to go far 
to clock up > £150 worth of travel in a month (that's virtually anywhere 
outside the Travelcard zones to London Zone 1). In practise, a cursory wave 
of a season ticket in the general direction of an RPI or train host seems to 
be enough for them - I've never ever had anyone look closely to check the 
value of my season ticket!

Jack Taylor wrote:

> a cursory wave 
> of a season ticket in the general direction of an RPI or train host seems to 
> be enough for them

Train Host? Whassat?

Charlie

Charlie Hulme wrote:
> Jack Taylor wrote:
>
>> a cursory wave
>> of a season ticket in the general direction of an RPI or train host
>> seems to be enough for them
>
> Train Host? Whassat?

It's a posh name that Chiltern have for their on-train staff on non-OPO 
sections (i.e. north of Banbury). You and I would call them guards.  ;-)

On Jul 3, 5:42 pm, Joe Patrick  wrote:
> On 3 Jul, 17:12, Joe Patrick  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on First Great
> > Western is entitled to a Standard Day Return ticket for £10 (First Day
> > Return for £20) for any travel on any FGW route/train on Saturdays,
> > Sundays or Bank Holidays between 5 July & 28 September.
>
> > The offer allows the season ticket holder, plus one other adult to
> > travel for the above mentioned prices, each. Up to four children can
> > travel for half the above fares with each season ticket holder.
>
> > Anyone who currently has an eligible season ticket should recieve a
> > letter with a voucher (and some free car parking tickets too!), but if
> > you're a new customer or want to make additional journeys you can
> > download one fromhttp://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/takeafriend.
>
> > Does anyone know if there is a cheaper monthly season than Clifton
> > Down - Bristol Temple Meads, which is £23.10?
>
> Devonport Devon - Devonport Dockyard monthly season is cheaper @ £8.10  ?? Not sure what this is !
Falmouth Town - Falmouth Docks £10.75

On 3 Jul, 17:42, Joe Patrick  wrote:

> Devonport Devon - Devonport Dockyard monthly season is cheaper @ £8.10

Jack Taylor wrote:

> It's a posh name that Chiltern have for their on-train staff on non-OPO
> sections (i.e. north of Banbury). You and I would call them guards.  ;-)

Does anyone find it another good reason to like SWT that theirs are
called "guards"?

Any sign of the common sense spreading to EMT?

Neil

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:17:43 -0700 (PDT), Neil Williams wrote in
,
seen in uk.railway:
> Jack Taylor wrote:
> 
> > It's a posh name that Chiltern have for their on-train staff on non-OPO
> > sections (i.e. north of Banbury). You and I would call them guards.  ;-)
> 
> Does anyone find it another good reason to like SWT that theirs are
> called "guards"?
> 
> Any sign of the common sense spreading to EMT?

EMT have Train Managers and [Senior] Conductors, the latter being a
good BR grade with a long history (albeit not necessarily as guards!).

I don't think you'll see that changing, any more than you'll see NXEC
getting rid of the GNER pick-and-choose-three-words job titles (for
all they do call themselves "Train Guards" publicly nowadays).


Most stupid title for a guard still, AFAIC, goes to the erstwhile LTS
and their "On-Train Customer Service Assistant".

-- 
Ross. 
* Opinions are my own; my employer has disowned me again.
* Reply-to will bounce. Replace the junk-trap with my first name to e-mail me.

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> On 3 Jul, 17:12, Joe Patrick  wrote:
>
> > > Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on First Great
> > > Western is entitled to a Standard Day Return ticket for �10 (First Day
> > > Return for �20) for any travel on any FGW route/train on Saturdays,
> > > Sundays or Bank Holidays between 5 July & 28 September.
>
> > > The offer allows the season ticket holder, plus one other adult to
> > > travel for the above mentioned prices, each. Up to four children can
> > > travel for half the above fares with each season ticket holder.
>

This really looks too good to be true. If I read the FGW link
correctly, one could have an unlimited number of Day Return tickets at
10 pounds each at weekends or bank holidays.  So if I were to buy a
monthly season from, say Devonport to Dockyard for the month of
August, I could have a day trip from Oxford to Fishguard on one day
[or possibly only as far as Swansea or Carmarthen -- how far does FGW-
land extend?], Oxford to Penzance the next, Weymouth the next, and so
on. There are 5 Saturdays, 5 Sundays and 2 bank holidays in August so
it ought to be possible to travel the whole of the network for �120.00
[plus the cost of the season ticket].

Where's the catch?

On 6 Jul, 12:12, 81F  wrote:
> > On 3 Jul, 17:12, Joe Patrick  wrote:
>
> > > > Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on First Great
> > > > Western is entitled to a Standard Day Return ticket for �10 (First Day
> > > > Return for �20) for any travel on any FGW route/train on Saturdays,
> > > > Sundays or Bank Holidays between 5 July & 28 September.
>
> > > > The offer allows the season ticket holder, plus one other adult to
> > > > travel for the above mentioned prices, each. Up to four children can
> > > > travel for half the above fares with each season ticket holder.
>
> This really looks too good to be true. If I read the FGW link
> correctly, one could have an unlimited number of Day Return tickets at
> 10 pounds each at weekends or bank holidays.  So if I were to buy a
> monthly season from, say Devonport to Dockyard for the month of
> August, I could have a day trip from Oxford to Fishguard on one day
> [or possibly only as far as Swansea or Carmarthen -- how far does FGW-
> land extend?], Oxford to Penzance the next, Weymouth the next, and so
> on. There are 5 Saturdays, 5 Sundays and 2 bank holidays in August so
> it ought to be possible to travel the whole of the network for �120.00
> [plus the cost of the season ticket].
>
> Where's the catch?

2 Bank Holidays ?

On Jul 3, 9:09 pm, Joe Patrick  wrote:
> On 3 Jul, 20:29, Theo Markettos 
> wrote:
>
> > Jack Taylor  wrote:
> > > Anyone who holds a monthly or longer season ticket on Chiltern is entitled
> > > to free travel anywhere on the Chiltern network at weekends and on Bank
> > > Holidays, all year round.
>
> > And the cheapest monthly season is? :->
>
> > Theo
>
> According to Chiltern's website the offer is only for monthly seasons
> worth over GBP150 and annuals worth over GBP1,500

Would you suspect that this would include a zone 1-5 travelcard
purchased from one of their stations (prices
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/faresandtickets/seasontickets/4805.aspx
£159 per month, £1656 per year), and would a ticket purchased at South
Ruislip count (as that is LU on behalf of Chiltern)?

Ross  writes:

> EMT have Train Managers and [Senior] Conductors, the latter being a
> good BR grade with a long history (albeit not necessarily as guards!).

Was there ever such a thing as a conductor who was not senior? I never
saw one, the "man in the van" was always a guard or senior
conductor. Though come to think about it, I have very vague memories of
seeing a conductor-guard on a paytrain very many years ago.

On 11 Jul, 11:37, Graham Murray  wrote:
> Ross  writes:
> > EMT have Train Managers and [Senior] Conductors, the latter being a
> > good BR grade with a long history (albeit not necessarily as guards!).
>
> Was there ever such a thing as a conductor who was not senior? I never
> saw one, the "man in the van" was always a guard or senior
> conductor. Though come to think about it, I have very vague memories of
> seeing a conductor-guard on a paytrain very many years ago.

They can still be found - most local services from Norwich /Ipswich
are crewed by Conductor (the Senior Conductor role is used on Norwich
- LST Inter City services)
AFAIK Conductors can also be found on Colchester - Clacton / Walton /
Sudbury routes.
Hope this helps

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:37:52 +0100, Graham Murray
 wrote:


>Was there ever such a thing as a conductor who was not senior? I never
>saw one, the "man in the van" was always a guard or senior
>conductor. Though come to think about it, I have very vague memories of
>seeing a conductor-guard on a paytrain very many years ago.

My grade at Orpington was "Guard".  When I moved to Grove Park, I was
regraded "Conductor Guard" to reflect the amount of "commercial duties"
but my pay scale didn't alter.




-- 
Bill Hayles
http://www.rossrail.com
md@rossrail.com

"Bill Hayles"  wrote
>
> My grade at Orpington was "Guard".  When I moved to Grove Park, I was
> regraded "Conductor Guard" to reflect the amount of "commercial duties"
> but my pay scale didn't alter.
>
Presumably Orpington duties were almost entirely on EPBs, which didn't give
the guard an opportunity to emerge from his van and go through the train
checking tickets during the journey. I am sure that the antics of Will
Kennoway, ticket collector at Clachnaharry in the 1870s would have been
frowned on - he made his way along the footboards of the carriages during
the journey between there and Inverness, collecting tickets through the
windows of the compartments.

A few 2EPBs were eventually given a door from the van into the saloon and
used for conductor guard working on the Medway Valley line, though the
conductor still only had access to one of the two coaches.

Peter