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date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:06:46 +0100,    group: uk.railway        back       
Re: Cyclist crashes onto track   
d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Charlie Hulme  wrote:
>
>> Neil Williams wrote:
>> > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:13:10 +0100, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=AEi=A9ardo?=
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> >> You couldn't make it up.
>> > 
>> > You are, presumably, aware that in the Netherlands it is permitted for
>> > cyclists to turn right (UK equivalent left) through red traffic lights
>> > in many locations?  The sign "rechtsaf voor fietsers vrij" indicating
>> > this is extremely common.
>> > 
>> > It doesn't appear to cause accidents.
>> 
>> It's also permitted in many places (the USA for example) for 
>> _all vehicles_ to turn left, 
>
>Having lived as a driver in the USA, I'm pretty sure it's the right! :)


And it is by no means allowed at every junction.  The default is that
it is allowed, but many junctions have signs saying "No right turn on
red" in black letters on a white background.

These signs are often dirty, poorly maintained, damaged or (more
rarely) missing altogether.  So you have to look very carefully before
turning right if you don't know the junction.  Even if the sign is
missing, the "No right turn on red" still applies, as I found to my
cost in Houston, TX.  I took the traffic cop to the junction and
pointed out the lack of sign, but still got booked.  Fined $60.

;-)
date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:06:46 +0100   author:   Tony Polson

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