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date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:15:07 +0100,    group: uk.radio.amateur        back       
What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Foolishly Google have opened up the archive

"In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available 
index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."

Oh dear

http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=walt+davidson&hl=en

oh dear

http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=gareth+paley&hl=en

oh dear

http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=EI7GM+&hl=en


-- 
-- 
10-10 de G1LVN
------------------------------------------------------
you see that web page
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hall/8701/ham/ccf1.htm
that's you that is
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:15:07 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"1LVN"  wrote in message 
news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>
> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available 
> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>
> Oh dear
>
> http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=walt+davidson&hl=en
>

That would be before he became the sad twisted bitter fucker that he is now?
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:49:08 +0100   author:   Road_Hog

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Road_Hog wrote:
> "1LVN"  wrote in message 
> news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
>> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>
>> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available 
>> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>
>> Oh dear
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=walt+davidson&hl=en
>>
> 
> That would be before he became the sad twisted bitter fucker that he is now?

The foul mouthed CBer reveals himself every time......
date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:52:34 -0400   author:   2CA001

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Road_Hog"  wrote in message 
news:gc0nl2$3g$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "1LVN"  wrote in message 
> news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
>> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>
>> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available 
>> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>
>> Oh dear
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=walt+davidson&hl=en
>>
>
> That would be before he became the sad twisted bitter fucker that he is 
> now?
>
Get thee to a nunnery
(or at least back to uk.rec.radio.cb)
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:54:53 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"1LVN"  wrote in message 
news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>
> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available 
> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>
> Oh dear
>
> http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=walt+davidson&hl=en
>
> oh dear
>
> http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=gareth+paley&hl=en
>
> oh dear
>
> http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=EI7GM+&hl=en
>


That last one brought up this> http://www.iol.ie/~ei7gm/

That is the webpage of a troubled mind. More hang ups than a coat stand.
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:00:28 +0100   author:   Me

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Me"  wrote in message 
news:gc0od7$r3q$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> "1LVN"  wrote in message 
> news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
>> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>
>> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available 
>> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>
>> Oh dear
>
> That last one brought up this> http://www.iol.ie/~ei7gm/
>
> That is the webpage of a troubled mind. More hang ups than a coat stand.
>
>
when you're right you're right
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:05:10 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Me"  wrote in message 
news:gc0od7$r3q$1@registered.motzarella.org...

> More hang ups than a coat stand.

LOL!

-- 
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:30:08 +0100   author:   Brian Reay lid

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"2CA001"  wrote in message 
news:kuWdneaTf-ePfn7VnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@comcast.com...
> Road_Hog wrote:
>> "1LVN"  wrote in message
>> news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
>>> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>>
>>> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available
>>> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>>
>>> Oh dear
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=walt+davidson&hl=en
>>>
>>
>> That would be before he became the sad twisted bitter fucker that he is 
>> now?
>
> The foul mouthed CBer reveals himself every time......

You are Gareth Evans and I claim my five pounds.
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:44:11 +0100   author:   Road_Hog

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Road_Hog"  wrote in message 
news:gc0ucp$c2o$1@energise.enta.net...
>
>>>
>>> That would be before he became the sad twisted bitter fucker that he is 
>>> now?
>>
>> The foul mouthed CBer reveals himself every time......
>
> You are Gareth Evans and I claim my five pounds.
>
 Unlikely Gareth Evans is a "comitted" radio amateur
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:11:44 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Road_Hog wrote:
> "2CA001"  wrote in message 
> news:kuWdneaTf-ePfn7VnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Road_Hog wrote:
>>> "1LVN"  wrote in message
>>> news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
>>>> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>>>
>>>> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available
>>>> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=walt+davidson&hl=en
>>>>
>>> That would be before he became the sad twisted bitter fucker that he is 
>>> now?
>> The foul mouthed CBer reveals himself every time......
> 
> You are Gareth Evans and I claim my five pounds. 

Gareth is a better man than you'll ever be..... take from that what you
want!
date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:38:39 -0400   author:   2CA001

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"1LVN"  wrote in message 
news:6o-dnah034Cfe37VnZ2dnUVZ8uidnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "Me"  wrote in message 
> news:gc0od7$r3q$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "1LVN"  wrote in message 
>> news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
>>> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>>
>>> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available 
>>> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>>
>>> Oh dear
>>
>> That last one brought up this> http://www.iol.ie/~ei7gm/
>>
>> That is the webpage of a troubled mind. More hang ups than a coat stand.
>>
>>
> when you're right you're right

Some of the other links are interesting. Walt has RSGB links on his 
websites. Searching on some of the other tossers proves they were tossers in 
2001.

What nym was the  RUFZing  lapdog using in 2001?
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:37:53 +0100   author:   Me

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:37:53 +0100, "Me"  wrote:

>Some of the other links are interesting. Walt has RSGB links on his 
>websites.

Shock! Horror! Outrage!  Yes, and they are so old that they don't work
any more.

I used to be a member of the RSGB, before the launch of the ill-fated
Fools' Licence scheme.

73 de G3NYY

-- 
Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:54:29 +0100   author:   Walt Davidson

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:37:53 +0100, "Me"  wrote:
> 
>> Some of the other links are interesting. Walt has RSGB links on his 
>> websites.
> 
> Shock! Horror! Outrage!  Yes, and they are so old that they don't work
> any more.
> 
> I used to be a member of the RSGB, before the launch of the ill-fated
> Fools' Licence scheme.
> 
> 73 de G3NYY
> 

Hold on Walt I though you said you chucked in in the 60's or am I 
confabulating again?

Len GM0ONX
date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:27:27 +0100   author:   Len GM0ONX

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"2CA001"  wrote in message 
news:kuWdnR2Tf-e9u3nVnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> You are Gareth Evans and I claim my five pounds.
>
> Gareth is a better man than you'll ever be..... take from that what you
> want!

You've just confirmed, you're round the bend :-(

tox
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:26:40 +0100   author:   The Legend Returns trabant owners club@Nicks place.comco

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:27:27 +0100, Len GM0ONX
 wrote:

>Hold on Walt I though you said you chucked in in the 60's or am I 
>confabulating again?

No, no.  I have resigned and rejoined several times since the 1960s.

The last occasion I resigned was in 2002, when I wrote to Peter Kirby
and told him I would never rejoin for as long as certain people held
office or remained employed within the company.

73 de Wlat

-- 
Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:29:11 +0100   author:   Walt Davidson

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:27:27 +0100, Len GM0ONX
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hold on Walt I though you said you chucked in in the 60's or am I 
>> confabulating again?
> 
> No, no.  I have resigned and rejoined several times since the 1960s.
> 
> The last occasion I resigned was in 2002, when I wrote to Peter Kirby
> and told him I would never rejoin for as long as certain people held
> office or remained employed within the company.

Wasn't the 10 GBP six month deal for M1AOW more recent than that?

-- 

Brian
date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:40:12 +0100   author:   Brian Morrison

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Oct 2, 1:29 pm, Walt Davidson  wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:27:27 퍝, Len GM0ONX
>
>  wrote:
> >Hold on Walt I though you said you chucked in in the 60's or am I
> >confabulating again?
>
> No, no.  I have resigned and rejoined several times since the 1960s.
>
> The last occasion I resigned was in 2002, when I wrote to Peter Kirby
> and told him I would never rejoin for as long as certain people held
> office or remained employed within the company.
>
> 73 de Wlat
>
> --
> Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com

So there's an outside chance of rejoining again HI.
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:20:52 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Len GM0ONX

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"1LVN"  wrote in message 
news:6o-dnah034Cfe37VnZ2dnUVZ8uidnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "Me"  wrote in message 
> news:gc0od7$r3q$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "1LVN"  wrote in message 
>> news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
>>> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>>
>>> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available 
>>> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>>
>>> Oh dear
>>
>> That last one brought up this> http://www.iol.ie/~ei7gm/
>>
>> That is the webpage of a troubled mind. More hang ups than a coat stand.
>>
>>
> when you're right you're right

It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN 
youngsters. I think it is known as an "angry wall".  Basically the youngster 
rights done his/her "problem" and sticks it on the wall. The hope is that it 
"vents" their anger and, as they mature, they learn to work though their 
problems.

I'm not sure if it is still used- it was something I learned of when 
training.

-- 
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:53:29 +0100   author:   Brian Reay lid

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Brian Reay" <see@website.invalid> wrote in message 
news:_76Fk.13688$AS.2955@newsfe12.ams2...
>
>
>
> It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN 
> youngsters. I think it is known as an "angry wall".  Basically the 
> youngster rights done his/her "problem" and sticks it on the wall. The 
> hope is that it "vents" their anger and, as they mature, they learn to 
> work though their problems.
>
> I'm not sure if it is still used- it was something I learned of when 
> training.

I see they didn't teach you how to spell :-)
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:58:32 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Walt Davidson"  wrote in message
news:bdf9e451gc9m73msfe1s2dpahcl3sf6hdf@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:27:27 +0100, Len GM0ONX
>  wrote:
>
>>Hold on Walt I though you said you chucked in in the 60's or am I
>>confabulating again?
>
> No, no.  I have resigned and rejoined several times since the 1960s.
>
> The last occasion I resigned was in 2002, when I wrote to Peter Kirby
> and told him I would never rejoin for as long as certain people held
> office or remained employed within the company.
> 73 de Wlat
> Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
>
>
I gave up on them when they tied up with those criminals at the
Bank of Credit and Commerce International.

Enough gangsters in this country already without encouraging them

Steve Terry
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:51:29 +0100   author:   Steve Terry

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
-- 
Stewart G7ITU
"1LVN"  wrote in message 
news:jMGdnSdI1O4xnnnVRVnyhgA@bt.com...
>
> "Road_Hog"  wrote in message 
> news:gc0ucp$c2o$1@energise.enta.net...
>>
>>>>
>>>> That would be before he became the sad twisted bitter fucker that he is 
>>>> now?
>>>
>>> The foul mouthed CBer reveals himself every time......
>>
>> You are Gareth Evans and I claim my five pounds.
>>
> Unlikely Gareth Evans is a "comitted" radio amateur

Committed as in section 37 or 41 of the Mental Health Act?
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:32:46 +0100   author:   Stew

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Steve Terry wrote:

> I gave up on them when they tied up with those criminals at the
> Bank of Credit and Commerce International.

Oh yes, I'd forgotten about the Bank of Cocaine and Crooks International.

I think the ructions are still ongoing in the courts about that.

-- 

Brian
date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:36:29 +0100   author:   Brian Morrison

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Stew"  wrote in message 
news:0B7Fk.24614$yU7.12455@newsfe19.ams2...
>
>>>> The foul mouthed CBer reveals himself every time......
>>>
>>> You are Gareth Evans and I claim my five pounds.
>>>
>> Unlikely Gareth Evans is a "comitted" radio amateur
>
> Committed as in section 37 or 41 of the Mental Health Act?
I never said that.
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:11:59 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
In message , 1LVN 
 writes
>Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>
>"In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available
>index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."

I seem to have postings back to 1996

Brian  GM4DIJ
-- 
Brian Howie
I'm monitoring 0.8, are you ?
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:02:30 +0100   author:   Brian Howie

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Brian Howie"  wrote in message 
news:XedKPaBWjS5IFwRW@b-howie.demon.co.uk...
> In message , 1LVN  
> writes
>>Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>
>>"In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available
>>index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>
> I seem to have postings back to 1996
>
what on? Gopher?
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:44:47 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:40:12 +0100, Brian Morrison
 wrote:

>Walt Davidson wrote:
>> 
>> No, no.  I have resigned and rejoined several times since the 1960s.
>> 
>> The last occasion I resigned was in 2002, when I wrote to Peter Kirby
>> and told him I would never rejoin for as long as certain people held
>> office or remained employed within the company.
>
>Wasn't the 10 GBP six month deal for M1AOW more recent than that?

I think so, but I am not M1AOW!

73 de Wlat

-- 
Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:53:45 +0100   author:   Walt Davidson

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:20:52 -0700 (PDT), Len GM0ONX 
wrote:

>So there's an outside chance of rejoining again HI.

Never say never!

;-)

73 de G3NYY

-- 
Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:54:23 +0100   author:   Walt Davidson

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
In message , 1LVN 
 writes
>
>"Brian Howie"  wrote in message
>news:XedKPaBWjS5IFwRW@b-howie.demon.co.uk...
>> In message , 1LVN 
>> writes
>>>Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>>
>>>"In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available
>>>index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>
>> I seem to have postings back to 1996
>>
>what on? Gopher?

Google groups


Brian
-- 
Brian Howie
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:09:10 +0100   author:   Brian Howie

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Brian Reay" <see@website.invalid> wrote in message 
news:_76Fk.13688$AS.2955@newsfe12.ams2...
>
>
> "1LVN"  wrote in message 
> news:6o-dnah034Cfe37VnZ2dnUVZ8uidnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "Me"  wrote in message 
>> news:gc0od7$r3q$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> "1LVN"  wrote in message 
>>> news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
>>>> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>>>
>>>> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available 
>>>> index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear
>>>
>>> That last one brought up this> http://www.iol.ie/~ei7gm/
>>>
>>> That is the webpage of a troubled mind. More hang ups than a coat stand.
>>>
>>>
>> when you're right you're right
>
> It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN 
> youngsters. I think it is known as an "angry wall".

Do you teach emotionally disturbed kids?
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:21:57 +0100   author:   Me

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:21:57 +0100, "Me"  wrote:

>
>"Brian Reay" <see@website.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:_76Fk.13688$AS.2955@newsfe12.ams2...
>>
>> It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN 
>> youngsters. I think it is known as an "angry wall".
>
>Do you teach emotionally disturbed kids?

Only when he's got his 'Train the trainers' hat on.

Nick.
date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:47:38 +0100   author:   unknown

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Brian Howie"  wrote in message 
news:LWVNNoA2ja5IFwSe@b-howie.demon.co.uk...
> In message , 1LVN  
> writes
>>
>>"Brian Howie"  wrote in message
>>news:XedKPaBWjS5IFwRW@b-howie.demon.co.uk...
>>> In message , 1LVN 
>>> 
>>> writes
>>>>Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>>>
>>>>"In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available
>>>>index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>>
>>> I seem to have postings back to 1996
>>>
>>what on? Gopher?
>
> Google groups
>

Dejanews shirley?
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:01:18 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Me"  wrote in message 
news:gc4a5o$qpm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
a coat stand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> when you're right you're right
>>
>> It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN 
>> youngsters. I think it is known as an "angry wall".
>
> Do you teach emotionally disturbed kids?
>
>
Well by Friday I'm sure they are
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:02:04 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Me"  wrote in message 
news:gc4a5o$qpm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> "Brian Reay" <see@website.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:_76Fk.13688$AS.2955@newsfe12.ams2...
>>
>>
>> "1LVN"  wrote in message 
>> news:6o-dnah034Cfe37VnZ2dnUVZ8uidnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>> "Me"  wrote in message 
>>> news:gc0od7$r3q$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>
>>>> "1LVN"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:u4CdnXoP2NnVR37VRVnyiwA@bt.com...
>>>>> Foolishly Google have opened up the archive
>>>>>
>>>>> "In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest 
>>>>> available index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear
>>>>
>>>> That last one brought up this> http://www.iol.ie/~ei7gm/
>>>>
>>>> That is the webpage of a troubled mind. More hang ups than a coat 
>>>> stand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> when you're right you're right
>>
>> It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN 
>> youngsters. I think it is known as an "angry wall".
>
> Do you teach emotionally disturbed kids?

Not in the main- at least not those who most would regard as "serious 
cases".

All teachers are required to have a knowledge of SEN teaching skills and we 
probably all have to teacher youngsters identified as SEN. However, they 
won't all be emotionally disturbed (SEN covers physical issues as well). I 
would imagine that almost every teacher has to teach some pupils on the 
Autistic spectrum but there are a whole range of  "levels" of problem. The 
milder cases aren't much of an issue if you can spot the signs and have been 
advised of (or can work out) the strategies that are known to have worked 
with individuals (a good school ensures that teachers are told who is on the 
SEN register and the relevant background).

Some teachers specialise in SEN and some schools have particular 
specialisms. When I was training, I wanted to see something of the SEN side 
in a bit more detail and spent some time in a school which specialised in 
those with hearing impairments. Very interesting. A lot can be done to 
overcome such problems, if the correct resources and techniques are applied.

By the way, SEN includes the Gifted and Talented as well as the 
underachievers, although the G&T end doesn't tend to get the attention of 
the underachievement end. This is something I'm working on at the moment and 
hope to specialise in.

The "extra" help SEN pupils need / get varies greatly- a special PC for 
those with (for example) cerebral palsey, large print books or a teacher 
that avoids using old whiteboard pens for those with visual impairment, the 
use of a "hearing aid" device and a mic for the teacher or the teacher 
ensuring he avoids "talking to the white board" etc.

Sometimes it is about a "firm" teacher who insists on good behaviour. It 
isn't all about extra time in exams or many of the things the ill-informed 
insist on dragging up.

I'm something of an SEN skeptic (ie some "problems" come down to extremes of 
"normal" factors ) but, at the end of the day, ignoring youngsters who 
"don't fit in" is just storing up problems for the future (they will become 
the disaffected adults who end up with ASBOs or unable to hold down a job 
etc) and, especially when it comes to physical problems, I ask myself  "How 
would I want my child helped?".


Anyway, I must off now. We've an INSET (aka Baker) day and duty calls.

--
73
Brian
www.g8osn.org.uk
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:46:06 +0100   author:   Brian Reay

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:53:29 +0100, "Brian Reay" <see@website.invalid>
wrote:

>It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN 
>youngsters

Is "SEN" the same as "ESN"?  I thought such phrases were politically
incorrect these days.

73 de Wlat

-- 
Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:20:19 +0100   author:   Walt Davidson

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:46:06 +0100, "Brian Reay"
 wrote:

>Anyway, I must off now. We've an INSET (aka Baker) day and duty calls.

What on earth is that?  Is it perhaps this latest "flavour of the
month" idea that all school children are to attend cookery classes?

I'm just trying to picture Brian with his pinny and chef's hat on!
(Well, he already had the pinny ...)
:-)

73 de G3NYY

-- 
Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:24:16 +0100   author:   Walt Davidson

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:46:06 +0100, "Brian Reay"
 wrote:

> We've an INSET (aka Baker) day

I've just found out what it is.  It's another name for "Train the
Trainers"!

I see you can have an INSET course on Leisure and Tourism, Brian.  You
should sign up for it ... you might learn something useful!
:-)

http://www.lighthouse.tv/index.asp?fuseaction=subject&sbID=30

73 de G3NYY

-- 
Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:30:32 +0100   author:   Walt Davidson

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Walt Davidson wrote:

>> Wasn't the 10 GBP six month deal for M1AOW more recent than that?
> 
> I think so, but I am not M1AOW!

True, but you are his(?) spokesman surely?

-- 

Brian
date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:53:42 +0100   author:   Brian Morrison

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:46:06 +0100, "Brian Reay"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Anyway, I must off now. We've an INSET (aka Baker) day and duty calls.
> 
> What on earth is that?  Is it perhaps this latest "flavour of the
> month" idea that all school children are to attend cookery classes?

Nah, that's when the teachers do training during the school term and
parents are expected to have them at home instead of sending them to school.

Since teachers are not at school for 13 weeks a year, I have to say that
it's not popular with any parents I know, and probably not with teachers
whose children are not at school when they have to be.

-- 

Brian
date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:56:24 +0100   author:   Brian Morrison

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:53:29 +0100, "Brian Reay" <see@website.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN 
>> youngsters
> 
> Is "SEN" the same as "ESN"?  I thought such phrases were politically
> incorrect these days.

ESN = educationally sub-normal

That's not used any more.

SEN = special educational needs

Current expression, can mean almost anything where some kind of special
attention for a particular pupil is required.

-- 

Brian
date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:58:15 +0100   author:   Brian Morrison

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Walt Davidson"  wrote in message 
news:cclbe4ds5ij2ta7cs5bub1k8jgrpejunb2@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:53:29 +0100, "Brian Reay" <see@website.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN
>>youngsters
>
> Is "SEN" the same as "ESN"?  I thought such phrases were politically
> incorrect these days.
>
I've just worked M3ESN on 2m
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:05:27 +0100   author:   1LVN

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Walt Davidson"  wrote in message 
news:cclbe4ds5ij2ta7cs5bub1k8jgrpejunb2@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:53:29 +0100, "Brian Reay" <see@website.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN
>>youngsters
>
> Is "SEN" the same as "ESN"?  I thought such phrases were politically
> incorrect these days.

SEN = Special Educational Needs. It is the official term, as stated in one 
of the relevant acts that I don't remember the exact title of.

It covers a whole range of things- from what would once have been "ESN" to 
the Gifted and Talented.


-- 
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:51:23 +0100   author:   Brian Reay lid

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Brian Morrison"  wrote in message 
news:gc4qbn$a3l$3@news.datemas.de...
> Walt Davidson wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:53:29 +0100, "Brian Reay" <see@website.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It reminds me  of a technique used to "calm" emotionally disturbed SEN
>>> youngsters
>>
>> Is "SEN" the same as "ESN"?  I thought such phrases were politically
>> incorrect these days.
>
> ESN = educationally sub-normal
>
> That's not used any more.
>
> SEN = special educational needs
>
> Current expression, can mean almost anything where some kind of special
> attention for a particular pupil is required.

That is near enough it.

-- 
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:56:04 +0100   author:   Brian Reay lid

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Walt Davidson"  wrote in message 
news:ihlbe4599imur6scla78fgm2jb9sd23rak@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:46:06 +0100, "Brian Reay"
>  wrote:
>
>>Anyway, I must off now. We've an INSET (aka Baker) day and duty calls.
>
> What on earth is that?  Is it perhaps this latest "flavour of the
> month" idea that all school children are to attend cookery classes?

Well Walt, unlike your day perhaps, teachers recognise that there are new 
ideas to learn about, new skills to practice, and that everyone can learn 
something.
Plus, by law, all teachers have to have regular "refreshers" on some 
specific topics, eg child protection issues.

-- 
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:02:30 +0100   author:   Brian Reay lid

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:20:19 +0100, Walt Davidson
 wrote:

>Is "SEN" the same as "ESN"?  I thought such phrases were politically
>incorrect these days.
>
>73 de Wlat

Only because they're far too accurate for today's politically correct
establishment.

Nick.
date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:02:40 +0100   author:   unknown

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
wrote in message 
news:4tcce4d0mmf8rbn419d8sf9fnfb4c1mk16@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:20:19 +0100, Walt Davidson
>  wrote:
>
>>Is "SEN" the same as "ESN"?  I thought such phrases were politically
>>incorrect these days.
>>
>>73 de Wlat
>
> Only because they're far too accurate for today's politically correct
> establishment.

I've little to no time for "PC" nonsense but I find your dig at those who 
may be SEN quite offensive- SEN encompasses those, for example, who may be 
visually impaired, have a hearing impairment, or some physical impairment. 
To dismiss them as "sub-normal" is disgraceful.
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:08:38 +0100   author:   Brian Reay lid

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Brian Reay wrote:

>> Only because they're far too accurate for today's politically correct
>> establishment.
> 
> I've little to no time for "PC" nonsense but I find your dig at those who 
> may be SEN quite offensive- SEN encompasses those, for example, who may be 
> visually impaired, have a hearing impairment, or some physical impairment. 
> To dismiss them as "sub-normal" is disgraceful.

And in a rare show of agreement with this sort of phraseology it seems
rather unreasonable to me to make a child's life even more unpleasant by
coining a pejorative label. Their peers will try to make life hell for
them anyway in the way that children do, so arranging for the whole
spectrum of abilities to be named in one way does alleviate that.

-- 

Brian
date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:17:41 +0100   author:   Brian Morrison

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Brian Morrison"  wrote in message 
news:gc5d2r$r2n$1@news.datemas.de...
> Brian Reay wrote:
>
>>> Only because they're far too accurate for today's politically correct
>>> establishment.
>>
>> I've little to no time for "PC" nonsense but I find your dig at those who
>> may be SEN quite offensive- SEN encompasses those, for example, who may 
>> be
>> visually impaired, have a hearing impairment, or some physical 
>> impairment.
>> To dismiss them as "sub-normal" is disgraceful.
>
> And in a rare show of agreement with this sort of phraseology it seems
> rather unreasonable to me to make a child's life even more unpleasant by
> coining a pejorative label. Their peers will try to make life hell for
> them anyway in the way that children do, so arranging for the whole
> spectrum of abilities to be named in one way does alleviate that.

Actually, you would be surprised re the attitude of youngsters towards their 
fellow class / school members over "SEN type" matters. I can't recall 
hearing of a single case in one of the schools I've worked in of  "their 
peers trying to make life hell for them anyway in the way that children do." 
Quite the converse, especially when it comes to actually being able to help 
out. I find it quite heartening, especially when it is one of the "less 
co-operative" types who will go out of their way to perhaps hold a door etc 
for someone in a wheelchair or a walking frame.

I'd certainly not expect to hear that someone identified as SEN was 
subjected to the sort of thing we see on here and, if I did hear of it, the 
culprit would soon learn it wasn't acceptable.

Perhaps the "youth of today" have a more enlightened attitude as, for some 
time, it has been the practice to teach as many as practical SEN pupils in 
main stream schools.

-- 
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:38:18 +0100   author:   Brian Reay lid

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
Steve Terry wrote:
> "M5WJF" <M5WJF@GB7MAX.#28.GBR.EU> wrote in message 
> news:wd2dnZKGHvkpnXXVnZ2dnUVZ8vydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> Steve Terry wrote:
>>> "M5WJF" <M5WJF@GB7MAX.#28.GBR.EU> wrote in message 
>>> news:V7WdnfnvtNOFQ3rVnZ2dnUVZ8tbinZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>> 2CA001 wrote:
>>>>> M5WJF wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> A sad end for KE6ZLF, but no prats, as Steve Terry was never involved.
>>>>
>>> What you mean is I have a G4 and you'll never have, unless you grave rob.
>>> Envy is a terrible thing
>>> Steve Terry
>> Prat.
>>
>>
> Do you know any other words, or is your vocabulary as limited as your 
> thinking?
> 
> BTW you should feel homered, i don't normally waste this much time on an 
> Emmm...
> 
> Steve Terry 
> 
> 

You are an extremely sad person to think I care you even exist.
date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:58:08 +0100   author:   M5WJF M5WJF@GB7MAX.#28.GBR.EU

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
zpk@class-A-licensee-12wpm.ie wrote in news:48e7a5ce.345859@news.iol.ie:

> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 16:21:15 +0100, "Steve Terry" 
> wrote:
> 
>>Also as J P Satre pointed out, categorisation inherently dehumanises.
>>
>>That's why he refused the Nobel prize, as he didn't want to be known
>>and categorised at J P Sartre Nobel prize winner.
>>
>>Whereas some people live to categorise and be categorised
>>e.g. Freemason, M3, FL Trainer, uk.r.a. whipping boy, etc.
> yes... some people strive to be "in" some sort of group without any
> obligation.
> 
> 
> going by this newsgroup as a sample... i have arrived at the opinion
> that only those who have got up off their own backside and
> independently done the morse test seem to demonstrate an inbuilt
> ability to not need any association in order to be fulfilled and/or
> categorised.
 
He wrote, signing himself 'zpk@class-A-licensee-12wpm.ie'. As perfect an 
example of self-categorization as can be found.

I think you've got it all arse about face. Speaking as a fairly impartial 
observer, it seems to me that many of those you desc^H^H^H^Hcategorize 
above, the 'zpks', 'class_As' and 'Nedludds' of this world, to name but a 
few, are precisely the ones who show the greatest tendency to categorize 
themselves and others, presumably out of a pathological need to feel 
superior in some way. Is it because passing a Morse test is the only thing 
they have ever achieved in their lives?
date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:53:35 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Custos Custodum

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:53:35 +0000 (UTC), Custos Custodum
 wrote:

>zpk@class-A-licensee-12wpm.ie wrote in news:48e7a5ce.345859@news.iol.ie:
>
>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 16:21:15 +0100, "Steve Terry" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>Also as J P Satre pointed out, categorisation inherently dehumanises.
>>>
>>>That's why he refused the Nobel prize, as he didn't want to be known
>>>and categorised at J P Sartre Nobel prize winner.
>>>
>>>Whereas some people live to categorise and be categorised
>>>e.g. Freemason, M3, FL Trainer, uk.r.a. whipping boy, etc.
>> yes... some people strive to be "in" some sort of group without any
>> obligation.
>> 
>> 
>> going by this newsgroup as a sample... i have arrived at the opinion
>> that only those who have got up off their own backside and
>> independently done the morse test seem to demonstrate an inbuilt
>> ability to not need any association in order to be fulfilled and/or
>> categorised.
> 
>He wrote, signing himself 'zpk@class-A-licensee-12wpm.ie'. As perfect an 
>example of self-categorization as can be found.
>
>I think you've got it all arse about face. Speaking as a fairly impartial 

wrong...

its not a category...


it demonstrates an act that separates me from 3000 b-licensees who ran
away to get an m3 licence.
an act that was done independently of all others.
i applied to be tested.

and on the day it was me an an examiner (and a dodgy near-flat battery
in a morse oscillator - that gave it that eastern european chirp)


as i said before...

i thank my lucky stars that i did the morse test...
i'd hate to be given hf access for nowt.
date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:15:03 GMT   author:   unknown

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
zpk@class-A-licensee-12wpm.ie wrote:

> it demonstrates an act that separates me from 3000 b-licensees who ran
> away to get an m3 licence.

I suspect that's a typo.... wasn't the real figure closer to 4000?
date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:51:57 -0400   author:   2CA001

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
zpk@class-A-licensee-12wpm.ie wrote in news:48ea8d0e.490062@news.iol.ie:

> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:53:35 +0000 (UTC), Custos Custodum
>  wrote:
> 
>>zpk@class-A-licensee-12wpm.ie wrote in
>>news:48e7a5ce.345859@news.iol.ie: 
>>
>>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 16:21:15 +0100, "Steve Terry"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>>Also as J P Satre pointed out, categorisation inherently
>>>>dehumanises. 
>>>>
>>>>That's why he refused the Nobel prize, as he didn't want to be known
>>>>and categorised at J P Sartre Nobel prize winner.
>>>>
>>>>Whereas some people live to categorise and be categorised
>>>>e.g. Freemason, M3, FL Trainer, uk.r.a. whipping boy, etc.
>>> yes... some people strive to be "in" some sort of group without any
>>> obligation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> going by this newsgroup as a sample... i have arrived at the opinion
>>> that only those who have got up off their own backside and
>>> independently done the morse test seem to demonstrate an inbuilt
>>> ability to not need any association in order to be fulfilled and/or
>>> categorised.
>> 
>>He wrote, signing himself 'zpk@class-A-licensee-12wpm.ie'. As perfect
>>an example of self-categorization as can be found.
>>
>>I think you've got it all arse about face. Speaking as a fairly
>>impartial 
> 
> wrong...
> 
> its not a category...
> 
Of course it is. You have defined a subset of the population on the basis 
of some shared characteristic. That makes it a category. Futhermore, you 
have labelled yourself it terms of that shared characteristic. Ergo, self 
categorization.

> 
> it demonstrates an act that separates me from 3000 b-licensees who ran
> away to get an m3 licence.

Yes, putting yourself in one category and them in another.

> an act that was done independently of all others.
> i applied to be tested.
 
Bully for you. It doesn't really change anything, though, does it? 

> and on the day it was me an an examiner (and a dodgy near-flat battery
> in a morse oscillator - that gave it that eastern european chirp)
> 
> 
> as i said before...
> 
> i thank my lucky stars that i did the morse test...
> i'd hate to be given hf access for nowt.
> 
Whatever floats your boat. If I ever felt the need for hf access, I'd be 
quite happy to get it for nothing. Probably all it's worth anyway.
date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:16:15 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Custos Custodum

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:16:15 +0000 (UTC), Custos Custodum
 wrote:

>Whatever floats your boat. If I ever felt the need for hf access, I'd be 
>quite happy to get it for nothing. Probably all it's worth anyway.

well if thats the case why did brian encourage so many to downgrade to
m3 in order to get on hf ?

answer: 
no self respect for their b-call and it was seen as a far away green
field.


but your anonymous posts from the shadows says even more.
date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:03:45 GMT   author:   unknown

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"Brian Reay"  wrote in message 
news:YzZFk.11291$KC.805@newsfe16.ams2...
> "Steve Terry"  wrote in message 
> news:gc8sr3$vbm$1@news.albasani.net...
>> "M5WJF" <M5WJF@GB7MAX.#28.GBR.EU> wrote in message 
>> news:V7WdnfnvtNOFQ3rVnZ2dnUVZ8tbinZ2d@pipex.net...
>>> 2CA001 wrote:
>>>> M5WJF wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> A sad end for KE6ZLF, but no prats, as Steve Terry was never involved.
>>>
>> What you mean is I have a G4 and you'll never have, unless you grave rob.
>
> You seem very keen to be categorised as a G4, which conflicts with your 
> wishing to be categorised "into the neighbourhood" of Satre who pointed 
> out that categorisation inherently dehumanises so you  you are also 
> seeking to be dehumanised.
>
>> Envy is a terrible thing
>
> So is being a hypocrite.
>
> If I were you, I'd settle for being in the neighbourbood of Watford and 
> leave the HOTS (high order thinking skills) to others.
> HTH
>
>
You love your worthless Acronyms, can't expect anything else from
underskilled pen pusher like you.

Steve Terry
date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 22:44:13 +0100   author:   Steve Terry

Re: What were you doing on t'internet in 2001?   
"M5WJF" <M5WJF@GB7MAX.#28.GBR.EU> wrote in message 
news:w9ednbXgsMvDt3TVnZ2dnUVZ8tninZ2d@pipex.net...
> Steve Terry wrote:
>> "M5WJF" <M5WJF@GB7MAX.#28.GBR.EU> wrote in message 
>> news:wd2dnZKGHvkpnXXVnZ2dnUVZ8vydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>> Steve Terry wrote:
>>>> "M5WJF" <M5WJF@GB7MAX.#28.GBR.EU> wrote in message 
>>>> news:V7WdnfnvtNOFQ3rVnZ2dnUVZ8tbinZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>> 2CA001 wrote:
>>>>>> M5WJF wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> A sad end for KE6ZLF, but no prats, as Steve Terry was never involved.
>>>>>
>>>> What you mean is I have a G4 and you'll never have, unless you grave 
>>>> rob.
>>>> Envy is a terrible thing
>>>> Steve Terry
>>>
>>> Prat.
>>>
>> Do you know any other words, or is your vocabulary as limited as your 
>> thinking?
>>
>> BTW you should feel homered, i don't normally waste this much time on an 
>> Emmm...
>> Steve Terry
>
> You are an extremely sad person to think I care you even exist.
>
>
It's yet to be proved Emmms actually do exist, or are just a figment of the
warped imagination of whatever worthless Quangos that replaced the Home 
Office?

Steve Terry
date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 22:48:25 +0100   author:   Steve Terry

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