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date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:33:33 +0100,    group: uk.radio.amateur        back       
Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
Operating Martine Mobile has its advantages especially if your boat sinks! 
Of course MM3s  licenses' don't  permit them to operate Martine Mobile, but 
these days no one cares! Here is a nice heartwarming story of a West Coast 
of Scotland MM3 who is commonly out in the Clyde with his MM3 shipmates 
finding himself in some deep water.


Daniel Small MM3NMI
Amateur radio handheld saves canoeist
Scottish radio ham Daniel Small, MM3NMI, tells Southgate News how amateur 
radio proved to be a real 'life-saver'.

Daniel recounts his ordeal:

My friend and I were out canoeing on the west coast of Scotland, just off a 
town called Ardrossan.

Everything was going well for the first 30 minutes or so, but then I 
realized that I had taken on a considerable amount of water and my first 
thoughts were to head for the beach.

But, after changing my course to head for the beach, I was getting hit with 
waves side-on to my canoe and they were starting to tip me slightly and 
causing the canoe to fill with water from the sides. This happened a few 
times until the canoe was completely filled with water.

I got out the canoe and swam to a small island about 30 meters away, the 
small island was about 3/4 of a mile. When I reached the island I found the 
canoe on the rocks and got my ruck sack out of the back of it.

I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to resort to 
the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had only purchased the 
previous week, and made a call on the local channel, 145.525.

I called my friend Peter, MM3YFT who was already at the local harbour and 
asked that he look for someone with a boat to come and provide assistance, 
but no-one could be found.

So I got in touch with Rick, MM0CIN who made a 999 call to Clyde Coastguard. 
They in turn contacted Troon Lifeboat and Ardrossan Coastguard team. I was 
stranded on the rocks for about 30 minutes before the lifeboat managed to 
reach my location.

During that time, I kept close contact on 145.525 with all the local guys 
from my area - including Arthur MM0DHQ, who was about 2 miles away at 
Saltcoats Harbour - who were talking me through things to do.

Daniel, MM3NMI


http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2008/handheld_saves_life.htm
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:33:33 +0100   author:   newsnet

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
"newsnet"  wrote in message 
news:g40jt0$1edu$1@energise.enta.net...
> Operating Martine Mobile has its advantages especially if your boat sinks! 
> Of course MM3s  licenses' don't  permit them to operate Martine Mobile, 
> but these days no one cares! Here is a nice heartwarming story of a West 
> Coast of Scotland MM3 who is commonly out in the Clyde with his MM3 
> shipmates finding himself in some deep water.
>
>
> Daniel Small MM3NMI
> Amateur radio handheld saves canoeist
> Scottish radio ham Daniel Small, MM3NMI, tells Southgate News how amateur 
> radio proved to be a real 'life-saver'.
>
> Daniel recounts his ordeal:
>
> My friend and I were out canoeing on the west coast of Scotland, just off 
> a town called Ardrossan.
>
> Everything was going well for the first 30 minutes or so, but then I 
> realized that I had taken on a considerable amount of water and my first 
> thoughts were to head for the beach.
>
> But, after changing my course to head for the beach, I was getting hit 
> with waves side-on to my canoe and they were starting to tip me slightly 
> and causing the canoe to fill with water from the sides. This happened a 
> few times until the canoe was completely filled with water.
>
> I got out the canoe and swam to a small island about 30 meters away, the 
> small island was about 3/4 of a mile. When I reached the island I found 
> the canoe on the rocks and got my ruck sack out of the back of it.
>
> I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to resort 
> to the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had only purchased 
> the previous week, and made a call on the local channel, 145.525.
>
> I called my friend Peter, MM3YFT who was already at the local harbour and 
> asked that he look for someone with a boat to come and provide assistance, 
> but no-one could be found.
>
> So I got in touch with Rick, MM0CIN who made a 999 call to Clyde 
> Coastguard. They in turn contacted Troon Lifeboat and Ardrossan Coastguard 
> team. I was stranded on the rocks for about 30 minutes before the lifeboat 
> managed to reach my location.
>
> During that time, I kept close contact on 145.525 with all the local guys 
> from my area - including Arthur MM0DHQ, who was about 2 miles away at 
> Saltcoats Harbour - who were talking me through things to do.
>
> Daniel, MM3NMI

good god excitment in Ayrshire...what next...
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:44:52 +0100   author:   jimbo's Radio Shack... jim.gm4dhj@'ntlworld.com

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
"newsnet"  wrote in message 
news:g40jt0$1edu$1@energise.enta.net...
> Operating Martine Mobile has its advantages especially if your boat sinks! 
> Of course MM3s  licenses' don't  permit them to operate Martine Mobile, 
> but these days no one cares! Here is a nice heartwarming story of a West 
> Coast of Scotland MM3 who is commonly out in the Clyde with his MM3 
> shipmates finding himself in some deep water.

If you read the account he did not operate /MM

Jeff



> Daniel Small MM3NMI
> Amateur radio handheld saves canoeist
> Scottish radio ham Daniel Small, MM3NMI, tells Southgate News how amateur 
> radio proved to be a real 'life-saver'.
>
> Daniel recounts his ordeal:
>
> My friend and I were out canoeing on the west coast of Scotland, just off 
> a town called Ardrossan.
>
> Everything was going well for the first 30 minutes or so, but then I 
> realized that I had taken on a considerable amount of water and my first 
> thoughts were to head for the beach.
>
> But, after changing my course to head for the beach, I was getting hit 
> with waves side-on to my canoe and they were starting to tip me slightly 
> and causing the canoe to fill with water from the sides. This happened a 
> few times until the canoe was completely filled with water.
>
> I got out the canoe and swam to a small island about 30 meters away, the 
> small island was about 3/4 of a mile. When I reached the island I found 
> the canoe on the rocks and got my ruck sack out of the back of it.
>
> I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to resort 
> to the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had only purchased 
> the previous week, and made a call on the local channel, 145.525.
>
> I called my friend Peter, MM3YFT who was already at the local harbour and 
> asked that he look for someone with a boat to come and provide assistance, 
> but no-one could be found.
>
> So I got in touch with Rick, MM0CIN who made a 999 call to Clyde 
> Coastguard. They in turn contacted Troon Lifeboat and Ardrossan Coastguard 
> team. I was stranded on the rocks for about 30 minutes before the lifeboat 
> managed to reach my location.
>
> During that time, I kept close contact on 145.525 with all the local guys 
> from my area - including Arthur MM0DHQ, who was about 2 miles away at 
> Saltcoats Harbour - who were talking me through things to do.
>
> Daniel, MM3NMI
>
>
> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2008/handheld_saves_life.htm
>
>
>
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:48:07 +0100   author:   Jeff

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
"newsnet"  wrote in message 
news:g40jt0$1edu$1@energise.enta.net...
<snip>
> I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to resort 
> to the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had only purchased 
> the previous week, and made a call on the local channel, 145.525.
>
AFAIK the Puxing PX-777 isn't type aproved anywhere

Why is a FL using one?

Steve Terry
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:10:06 +0100   author:   Steve Terry

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
Jeff wrote:
> "newsnet"  wrote in message 
> news:g40jt0$1edu$1@energise.enta.net...
>> Operating Martine Mobile has its advantages especially if your boat sinks! 
>> Of course MM3s  licenses' don't  permit them to operate Martine Mobile, 
>> but these days no one cares! Here is a nice heartwarming story of a West 
>> Coast of Scotland MM3 who is commonly out in the Clyde with his MM3 
>> shipmates finding himself in some deep water.
> 
> If you read the account he did not operate /MM
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
>> Daniel Small MM3NMI
>> Amateur radio handheld saves canoeist
>> Scottish radio ham Daniel Small, MM3NMI, tells Southgate News how amateur 
>> radio proved to be a real 'life-saver'.
>>
>> Daniel recounts his ordeal:
>>
>> My friend and I were out canoeing on the west coast of Scotland, just off 
>> a town called Ardrossan.
>>
>> Everything was going well for the first 30 minutes or so, but then I 
>> realized that I had taken on a considerable amount of water and my first 
>> thoughts were to head for the beach.
>>
>> But, after changing my course to head for the beach, I was getting hit 
>> with waves side-on to my canoe and they were starting to tip me slightly 
>> and causing the canoe to fill with water from the sides. This happened a 
>> few times until the canoe was completely filled with water.
>>
>> I got out the canoe and swam to a small island about 30 meters away, the 
>> small island was about 3/4 of a mile. When I reached the island I found 
>> the canoe on the rocks and got my ruck sack out of the back of it.
>>
>> I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to resort 
>> to the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had only purchased 
>> the previous week, and made a call on the local channel, 145.525.
>>
>> I called my friend Peter, MM3YFT who was already at the local harbour and 
>> asked that he look for someone with a boat to come and provide assistance, 
>> but no-one could be found.
>>
>> So I got in touch with Rick, MM0CIN who made a 999 call to Clyde 
>> Coastguard. They in turn contacted Troon Lifeboat and Ardrossan Coastguard 
>> team. I was stranded on the rocks for about 30 minutes before the lifeboat 
>> managed to reach my location.
>>
>> During that time, I kept close contact on 145.525 with all the local guys 
>> from my area - including Arthur MM0DHQ, who was about 2 miles away at 
>> Saltcoats Harbour - who were talking me through things to do.
>>
>> Daniel, MM3NMI
>>
>>
>> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2008/handheld_saves_life.htm
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
I know Daniel and know the full story and he was not operating /MM as 
correctly pointed out by Jeff. He was transmitting from a rock that he 
swam to after his canoe sank. The rig was in his rucksack up to that point.

Len GM0ONX
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:13:46 +0100   author:   GM0ONX

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
"Steve Terry"  wrote in message 
news:g40m2l$h2$1@news.albasani.net...
> "newsnet"  wrote in message 
> news:g40jt0$1edu$1@energise.enta.net...
> <snip>
>> I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to 
>> resort to the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had only 
>> purchased the previous week, and made a call on the local channel, 
>> 145.525.
>>
> AFAIK the Puxing PX-777 isn't type aproved anywhere
>
> Why is a FL using one?
>
> Steve Terry
>
>


I put my mobile phone in a completely watertight box whenever I go anywhere 
wet.  It sounds like someone very poorly equipped for a trip offshore in a 
canoe - no marine radio so presumably could not get any weather warnings.



MB
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:17:57 +0100   author:   MB lid

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
Steve Terry wrote:
> "newsnet"  wrote in message 
> news:g40jt0$1edu$1@energise.enta.net...
> <snip>
>> I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to resort 
>> to the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had only purchased 
>> the previous week, and made a call on the local channel, 145.525.
>>
> AFAIK the Puxing PX-777 isn't type aproved anywhere
> 
> Why is a FL using one?
> 
> Steve Terry
> 
> 
It's not type approved for PMR use but has a CE approval certificate.
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:18:57 +0100   author:   GM0ONX

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
In message <g40m8s$s3$1@news.albasani.net>, GM0ONX 
 writes
>Jeff wrote:
>> "newsnet"  wrote in message 
>>news:g40jt0$1edu$1@energise.enta.net...
>>> Operating Martine Mobile has its advantages especially if your boat 
>>>sinks!  Of course MM3s  licenses' don't  permit them to operate 
>>>Martine Mobile,  but these days no one cares! Here is a nice 
>>>heartwarming story of a West  Coast of Scotland MM3 who is commonly 
>>>out in the Clyde with his MM3  shipmates finding himself in some deep water.
>>  If you read the account he did not operate /MM
>>  Jeff
>>
>>> Daniel Small MM3NMI
>>> Amateur radio handheld saves canoeist
>>> Scottish radio ham Daniel Small, MM3NMI, tells Southgate News how 
>>>amateur  radio proved to be a real 'life-saver'.
>>>
>>> Daniel recounts his ordeal:
>>>
>>> My friend and I were out canoeing on the west coast of Scotland, 
>>>just off  a town called Ardrossan.
>>>
>>> Everything was going well for the first 30 minutes or so, but then I 
>>>realized that I had taken on a considerable amount of water and my 
>>>first  thoughts were to head for the beach.
>>>
>>> But, after changing my course to head for the beach, I was getting 
>>>hit  with waves side-on to my canoe and they were starting to tip me 
>>>slightly  and causing the canoe to fill with water from the sides. 
>>>This happened a  few times until the canoe was completely filled with water.
>>>
>>> I got out the canoe and swam to a small island about 30 meters away, 
>>>the  small island was about 3/4 of a mile. When I reached the island 
>>>I found  the canoe on the rocks and got my ruck sack out of the back of it.
>>>
>>> I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to 
>>>resort  to the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had 
>>>only purchased  the previous week, and made a call on the local 
>>>channel, 145.525.
>>>
>>> I called my friend Peter, MM3YFT who was already at the local 
>>>harbour and  asked that he look for someone with a boat to come and 
>>>provide assistance,  but no-one could be found.
>>>
>>> So I got in touch with Rick, MM0CIN who made a 999 call to Clyde 
>>>Coastguard. They in turn contacted Troon Lifeboat and Ardrossan 
>>>Coastguard  team. I was stranded on the rocks for about 30 minutes 
>>>before the lifeboat  managed to reach my location.
>>>
>>> During that time, I kept close contact on 145.525 with all the local 
>>>guys  from my area - including Arthur MM0DHQ, who was about 2 miles 
>>>away at  Saltcoats Harbour - who were talking me through things to do.
>>>
>>> Daniel, MM3NMI
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2008/handheld_saves_life.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>I know Daniel and know the full story and he was not operating /MM as 
>correctly pointed out by Jeff. He was transmitting from a rock that he 
>swam to after his canoe sank. The rig was in his rucksack up to that 
>point.
>
>Len GM0ONX
>
I haven't checked, and may be wrong, But haven't things changed? Don't 
you now use /M within the 3 mile limit (or something like that)?
-- 
Ian
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:24:04 +0100   author:   Ian Jackson

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
Ian Jackson wrote:
> In message <g40m8s$s3$1@news.albasani.net>, GM0ONX 
>  writes
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> "newsnet"  wrote in message 
>>> news:g40jt0$1edu$1@energise.enta.net...
>>>> Operating Martine Mobile has its advantages especially if your boat 
>>>> sinks!  Of course MM3s  licenses' don't  permit them to operate 
>>>> Martine Mobile,  but these days no one cares! Here is a nice 
>>>> heartwarming story of a West  Coast of Scotland MM3 who is commonly 
>>>> out in the Clyde with his MM3  shipmates finding himself in some 
>>>> deep water.
>>>  If you read the account he did not operate /MM
>>>  Jeff
>>>
>>>> Daniel Small MM3NMI
>>>> Amateur radio handheld saves canoeist
>>>> Scottish radio ham Daniel Small, MM3NMI, tells Southgate News how 
>>>> amateur  radio proved to be a real 'life-saver'.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel recounts his ordeal:
>>>>
>>>> My friend and I were out canoeing on the west coast of Scotland, 
>>>> just off  a town called Ardrossan.
>>>>
>>>> Everything was going well for the first 30 minutes or so, but then I 
>>>> realized that I had taken on a considerable amount of water and my 
>>>> first  thoughts were to head for the beach.
>>>>
>>>> But, after changing my course to head for the beach, I was getting 
>>>> hit  with waves side-on to my canoe and they were starting to tip me 
>>>> slightly  and causing the canoe to fill with water from the sides. 
>>>> This happened a  few times until the canoe was completely filled 
>>>> with water.
>>>>
>>>> I got out the canoe and swam to a small island about 30 meters away, 
>>>> the  small island was about 3/4 of a mile. When I reached the island 
>>>> I found  the canoe on the rocks and got my ruck sack out of the back 
>>>> of it.
>>>>
>>>> I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to 
>>>> resort  to the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had 
>>>> only purchased  the previous week, and made a call on the local 
>>>> channel, 145.525.
>>>>
>>>> I called my friend Peter, MM3YFT who was already at the local 
>>>> harbour and  asked that he look for someone with a boat to come and 
>>>> provide assistance,  but no-one could be found.
>>>>
>>>> So I got in touch with Rick, MM0CIN who made a 999 call to Clyde 
>>>> Coastguard. They in turn contacted Troon Lifeboat and Ardrossan 
>>>> Coastguard  team. I was stranded on the rocks for about 30 minutes 
>>>> before the lifeboat  managed to reach my location.
>>>>
>>>> During that time, I kept close contact on 145.525 with all the local 
>>>> guys  from my area - including Arthur MM0DHQ, who was about 2 miles 
>>>> away at  Saltcoats Harbour - who were talking me through things to do.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel, MM3NMI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2008/handheld_saves_life.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> I know Daniel and know the full story and he was not operating /MM as 
>> correctly pointed out by Jeff. He was transmitting from a rock that he 
>> swam to after his canoe sank. The rig was in his rucksack up to that 
>> point.
>>
>> Len GM0ONX
>>
> I haven't checked, and may be wrong, But haven't things changed? Don't 
> you now use /M within the 3 mile limit (or something like that)?

Not that I claim to be an expert in working /mm but from the new terms 
and limitations booklet

Interpenetration

17 (v) "maritime mobile" means the radio equipment is located on any 
vessel at sea

17(ss)"vessel at sea" means a vessel operating on the seaward side of 
the low tide line along a coastline as marked on large scale charts 
officially recognised by the relevant coastal state.

Not that any of this applies in this case anyway. Thanks for the thought.

73

Len GM0ONX
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:51:08 +0100   author:   GM0ONX

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
In message <g40oev$5tk$1@news.albasani.net>, GM0ONX 
 writes
>Ian Jackson wrote:
>> In message <g40m8s$s3$1@news.albasani.net>, GM0ONX 
>> writes
>>> Jeff wrote:
>>> I know Daniel and know the full story and he was not operating /MM 
>>>as  correctly pointed out by Jeff. He was transmitting from a rock 
>>>that he  swam to after his canoe sank. The rig was in his rucksack up 
>>>to that  point.
>>>
>>> Len GM0ONX
>>>
>> I haven't checked, and may be wrong, But haven't things changed? 
>>Don't  you now use /M within the 3 mile limit (or something like that)?
>
>Not that I claim to be an expert in working /mm but from the new terms 
>and limitations booklet
>
>Interpenetration
>
>17 (v) "maritime mobile" means the radio equipment is located on any 
>vessel at sea
>
>17(ss)"vessel at sea" means a vessel operating on the seaward side of 
>the low tide line along a coastline as marked on large scale charts 
>officially recognised by the relevant coastal state.
>
>Not that any of this applies in this case anyway. Thanks for the thought.
>
>73
>
>Len GM0ONX

Ummm.....
I could swear that I read somewhere that /M could be used 'close into' 
the shore. Probably yet another fragment of my imagination.
-- 
Ian
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:08:51 +0100   author:   Ian Jackson

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
Ian Jackson wrote:
> In message <g40oev$5tk$1@news.albasani.net>, GM0ONX 
>  writes
>> Ian Jackson wrote:
>>> In message <g40m8s$s3$1@news.albasani.net>, GM0ONX 
>>>  writes
>>>> Jeff wrote:
>>>> I know Daniel and know the full story and he was not operating /MM 
>>>> as  correctly pointed out by Jeff. He was transmitting from a rock 
>>>> that he  swam to after his canoe sank. The rig was in his rucksack 
>>>> up to that  point.
>>>>
>>>> Len GM0ONX
>>>>
>>> I haven't checked, and may be wrong, But haven't things changed? 
>>> Don't  you now use /M within the 3 mile limit (or something like that)?
>>
>> Not that I claim to be an expert in working /mm but from the new terms 
>> and limitations booklet
>>
>> Interpenetration
>>
>> 17 (v) "maritime mobile" means the radio equipment is located on any 
>> vessel at sea
>>
>> 17(ss)"vessel at sea" means a vessel operating on the seaward side of 
>> the low tide line along a coastline as marked on large scale charts 
>> officially recognised by the relevant coastal state.
>>
>> Not that any of this applies in this case anyway. Thanks for the thought.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Len GM0ONX
> 
> Ummm.....
> I could swear that I read somewhere that /M could be used 'close into' 
> the shore. Probably yet another fragment of my imagination.

They keep changing it to keep you on your toes. ;o)

17 (x) 'Mobile' means the Radio Equipment is located in the United Kingdom:
I in or on any vehicle or conveyance
II on the person of the Licensee where the licensee is a pedestrian or
III on any vessel on inland waters.

Len GM0ONX
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:36:48 +0100   author:   GM0ONX

Re: Martine Mobile MM3 Saved By His Radio   
"GM0ONX"  wrote in message 
news:g40mij$s3$2@news.albasani.net...
> Steve Terry wrote:
>> "newsnet"  wrote in message 
>> news:g40jt0$1edu$1@energise.enta.net...
>> <snip>
>>> I got my mobile phone out, but that was water damaged, so I had to 
>>> resort to the use of my VHF 2M radio, a Puxing PX-777, which I had only 
>>> purchased the previous week, and made a call on the local channel, 
>>> 145.525.
>>>
>> AFAIK the Puxing PX-777 isn't type aproved anywhere
>>
>> Why is a FL using one?
>>
>> Steve Terry
>>
>>
> It's not type approved for PMR use but has a CE approval certificate.

was he up the creek in his canoe without a padlle key
date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:42:05 +0100   author:   news.virginmedia.com

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