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date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:30:28 GMT,    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
We're slipping!!   
I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little twerp 
dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.

FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!
date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:30:28 GMT   author:   Graham

Re: We're slipping!! PEOPLE.............Please read the "Do not reply to the DILV Fuckwit "warnings   
On Sep 8, 8:30 am, "Graham"  wrote:
> I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little twerp
> dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>
> FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!

So again.........Dave is an evangelical fundamentalist, based in the
US. He will not
listen to reasoned argument and will continue to post the same
invalid materials no matter how many times their falsehood is
pointed out.


His typical posting consists of material copied from creationist
websites - mainly pseudo science and frequently quotations from
credible scientists (2) that have been edited to indicate the
opposite of what the author intended.


If you are fired up with anger and feel compelled to respond (Dave
frequently makes a series of increasing unsupportable allegations
designed to provoke), the regulars here can't stop you, but please
understand that you will simply initiate an endless stream of posts
attempting to preach to anyone who is gullible enough to listen.


Notes:
1 If you wish to understand the truth about evolution and the
science of our origins, and the erroneous nature of Dave's
arguments, then this is a good starting point:
http://www.talkorigins.org/
2. A recent example asserts Francis Crick (who discovered DNA)
making statements about the sheer improbability of the natural
origins of life. The quotes actually come from Fred Hoyle, an
astronomer, but Dave's source is a creationist site that has
(accidentally or deliberately) mixed up the references. Dave can't
bring himself to even acknowledge the error, let alone apologise for
it.

Ian

At the risk of boring you and others here to death, dilv is
incapable of intellectual reasoning, he is an evangelical cyber foot
soldier that
has been pyschologically pre-programmed to maintain the devout
message
and has nothing remotely interesting or intellectually challenging to
add to
well trodden religious dogmatic paths.
If you really wish an atheist vs relgious discussion come on over to
UKRC where the discussion, whilst no less frustrating,  is light
years
ahead of the dilv dribble....Mark


It's useless to enter into any type of discussion with this fuckwit.
I've seen it all before
Dave loves to argue, usually by first posing a question or making a
ridiculous statement (A) like Adam and Eve is not a myth, man
actually lived with dinosaurs, the Earth is 6000 years old, or there
is no
proof an asteroid was responsible for extinctions, all designed only
to draw you into his web, but if one directs a reply to the first
issue of (A), the subject will change (as in "Yes, but what about
B,C,D and E") and never addressing your reply to subject (A)


Any attempt to cover B,C,D, or E is doomed to failure, as he then
directs the discussion into another direction.
He'd used this exact same tactic with me and many others.
The best strategy, just not play his game...Hewy
date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:07:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: We're slipping!!   
"Graham"  wrote:

>I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little twerp 
>dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>
>FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!! 

Another OE user. If you had a decent newsreader, you'd be 
much happier.


-- 
Sleepalot   aa #1385
date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:38:04 +0100   author:   Sleepalot

Re: We're slipping!!   
"Sleepalot"  wrote in message 
news:v3lac4dt714fahqbudpvhh96f1s3jnuhr4@4ax.com...
> "Graham"  wrote:
>
>>I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little twerp
>>dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>>
>>FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!
>
> Another OE user. If you had a decent newsreader, you'd be
> much happier.
>

Would that stop people responding to him?

Graham
date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:59:44 GMT   author:   Graham

Re: We're slipping!!   
"Graham"  wrote:

>
>"Sleepalot"  wrote in message 
>news:v3lac4dt714fahqbudpvhh96f1s3jnuhr4@4ax.com...
>> "Graham"  wrote:
>>
>>>I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little twerp
>>>dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>>>
>>>FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!
>>
>> Another OE user. If you had a decent newsreader, you'd be
>> much happier.
>>
>
>Would that stop people responding to him?
>
>Graham 
>
No, but you'd be able to pick and choose which posts you read.
(I'm not just talking about killfiles.)



-- 
Sleepalot   aa #1385
date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:15:00 +0100   author:   Sleepalot

Re: We're slipping!!   
"Sleepalot"  wrote in message 
news:s1nac4d6hvokitb65amspsjtunj8p1jnfm@4ax.com...
> "Graham"  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Sleepalot"  wrote in message
>>news:v3lac4dt714fahqbudpvhh96f1s3jnuhr4@4ax.com...
>>> "Graham"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little 
>>>>twerp
>>>>dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>>>>
>>>>FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> Another OE user. If you had a decent newsreader, you'd be
>>> much happier.
>>>
>>
>>Would that stop people responding to him?
>>
>>Graham
>>
> No, but you'd be able to pick and choose which posts you read.
> (I'm not just talking about killfiles.)
>
I can and do that already.  However, one can't predict which posts 
"Prickinlakevilla" will answer, nor which ones of his will elicit a response 
from "regular" atheists.
Graham
date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:11:48 GMT   author:   Graham

Re: We're slipping!!   
"Graham"  wrote:

>
>"Sleepalot"  wrote in message 
>news:s1nac4d6hvokitb65amspsjtunj8p1jnfm@4ax.com...
>> "Graham"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Sleepalot"  wrote in message
>>>news:v3lac4dt714fahqbudpvhh96f1s3jnuhr4@4ax.com...
>>>> "Graham"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little 
>>>>>twerp
>>>>>dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>>>>>
>>>>>FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Another OE user. If you had a decent newsreader, you'd be
>>>> much happier.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Would that stop people responding to him?
>>>
>>>Graham
>>>
>> No, but you'd be able to pick and choose which posts you read.
>> (I'm not just talking about killfiles.)
>>
>I can and do that already.  However, one can't predict which posts 
>"Prickinlakevilla" will answer, nor which ones of his will elicit a response 
>from "regular" atheists.
>Graham 
>

I don't have to make predictions - or use killfiles. 
I avoid reading Dave's posts and replies he gets simply
by not downloading them. 
My newsreader gets the headers first and from the headers,
I choose which bodies to dl.  
(The "Commentary" thread, I had set to "watch", so in that 
case I did see 3 Dilv posts and 3 replies, but out of 93 posts
that's tolerable. It's only a press of the spacebar to make them 
disappear.) 

-- 
Sleepalot   aa #1385
date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:08:45 +0100   author:   Sleepalot

Re: We're slipping!!   
On Sep 8, 10:30 am, "Graham"  wrote:
> I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little twerp
> dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>
> FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!

REPLY:  Theres a ring of truth to what i have to say Graham, because
that truth comes from The Bible which comes from the Creator of the
Universe. This is why its difficult to just ignore what is posted by
myself...not that its MY wisdom but rather wisdom from the one who is
the Theistic personal Creator of the Cosmos which always has a deep
penetrating affect and must be vehemently opposed by anyone who is
against the Creator (sadly).   Are you okay with a personal theistic
Creator existing Graham ?  Im just wondering about that.
date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:23:41 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: We're slipping!! PEOPLE.............Please read the "Do not reply to the DILV Fuckwit "warnings   
On Sep 8, 11:07 am, Ken  wrote:
> On Sep 8, 8:30 am, "Graham"  wrote:
>
> > I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little twerp
> > dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>
> > FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!
>
> So again.........Dave is an evangelical fundamentalist, based in the
> US. He will not
> listen to reasoned argument and will continue to post the same
> invalid materials no matter how many times their falsehood is
> pointed out.
>
> His typical posting consists of material copied from creationist
> websites - mainly pseudo science and frequently quotations from
> credible scientists (2) that have been edited to indicate the
> opposite of what the author intended.
>
> If you are fired up with anger and feel compelled to respond (Dave
> frequently makes a series of increasing unsupportable allegations
> designed to provoke), the regulars here can't stop you, but please
> understand that you will simply initiate an endless stream of posts
> attempting to preach to anyone who is gullible enough to listen.
>
> Notes:
> 1 If you wish to understand the truth about evolution and the
> science of our origins, and the erroneous nature of Dave's
> arguments, then this is a good starting point:http://www.talkorigins.org/
> 2. A recent example asserts Francis Crick (who discovered DNA)
> making statements about the sheer improbability of the natural
> origins of life. The quotes actually come from Fred Hoyle, an
> astronomer, but Dave's source is a creationist site that has
> (accidentally or deliberately) mixed up the references. Dave can't
> bring himself to even acknowledge the error, let alone apologise for
> it.
>
> Ian
>
> At the risk of boring you and others here to death, dilv is
> incapable of intellectual reasoning, he is an evangelical cyber foot
> soldier that
> has been pyschologically pre-programmed to maintain the devout
> message
> and has nothing remotely interesting or intellectually challenging to
> add to
> well trodden religious dogmatic paths.
> If you really wish an atheist vs relgious discussion come on over to
> UKRC where the discussion, whilst no less frustrating,  is light
> years
> ahead of the dilv dribble....Mark
>
> It's useless to enter into any type of discussion with this fuckwit.
> I've seen it all before
> Dave loves to argue, usually by first posing a question or making a
> ridiculous statement (A) like Adam and Eve is not a myth, man
> actually lived with dinosaurs, the Earth is 6000 years old, or there
> is no
> proof an asteroid was responsible for extinctions, all designed only
> to draw you into his web, but if one directs a reply to the first
> issue of (A), the subject will change (as in "Yes, but what about
> B,C,D and E") and never addressing your reply to subject (A)
>
>Any attempt to cover B,C,D, or E is doomed to failure, as he then
> directs the discussion into another direction.
> He'd used this exact same tactic with me and many others.
> The best strategy, just not play his game...Hewy

REPLY:  Well, wheres your proof of 'the asteriod' that wiped out the
Dinosaurs yet left millions of other species in tact ?!  That was ONE
WILLFUL asteriod with a strategic plan for it to zero in on the Giant
Lizards of the day !    Heres a couple other bonus questions for you
also :  How did unintelligent Molecules and Chemicals will for our
highly personal and complex Universe to exist and be sustained (with
250 extremely narrowly defined Physics Constants ALL needed at one
time and ALL working collaboratively together) , out of an
explosion ?  How exactly did 'natural selection'  go about
simultaneously developing all of the 60 major anatomical systems of a
Human Being that all work collaborately with each other so you could
come to the place of pretending you have enough faith in atheism ...
to the tune of 10^40,000 th power probability ?  Since you are a
lifelong Chemist, Ill expect you to give us  scientifically succinct
answers without a shred of uncontrolled vile and foul language as has
been your norm .  And, for extra credit,  when do you suppose you will
willfully stop pretending atheism makes good sound rational sense and
admit to THE theistic personal Creator which sustains your very
life ;  at what point in time do you surmise this might take place on
a willful basis Kenneth ?   Thanks.
date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:37:28 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: We're slipping!!   
On Sep 9, 2:23 am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> On Sep 8, 10:30 am, "Graham"  wrote:
>
> > I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little twerp
> > dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>
> > FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!
>
> REPLY:  Theres a ring of truth to what i have to say Graham, because
> that truth comes from The Bible which comes from the Creator of the
> Universe. This is why its difficult to just ignore what is posted by
> myself...not that its MY wisdom but rather wisdom from the one who is
> the Theistic personal Creator of the Cosmos which always has a deep
> penetrating affect and must be vehemently opposed by anyone who is
> against the Creator (sadly).   Are you okay with a personal theistic
> Creator existing Graham ?  Im just wondering about that.

Yup, I am - an eternal life might be quite pleasant - just so long as
it isn't delivered by the sadistic, hateful, intolerant, racist,
sexist, game-playing, manipulative supernatural entity as portrayed by
your version of a personal deity (according to the 'truths' and the
teachings of the bible that you hold so dear). Even an objective
morality could be acceptable (depending on its having just and
equitable parametres, which would require a totally different deity to
your own).

Fortunately though I don't believe in things just because it might be
nice if they were true. And I don't disbelieve extremely powerful
alternative explanations just because I might prefer to think I'm
'somebody' beyond this brief flash of awareness. I, and the rest of us
here, are braver than that. It's a shame that some sheep prefer to
huddle together in the false comfort that can be provided by self-
delusion and believing in fairy stories.

There is no eternal life DILV. If there was, we would remember (work
it out).

Your 'ring of truth' is the hollow sound of brainwashed, programmed
theist heads, knocking together during self-help group meetings for
those terrified of real life.
date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 23:21:21 -0700 (PDT)   author:   mysnowsports

Re: We're slipping!!   
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:23:41 -0700, IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote :

> On Sep 8, 10:30 am, "Graham"  wrote:
>> I notice that some here are beginning to answer that ignorant little
>> twerp dilv,  trying to correct him in vain.
>>
>> FFS PLONK HIM!!!!!!!
> 
> REPLY:  Theres a ring of truth to what i have to say Graham, because
> that truth comes from The Bible which comes from the Creator of the
> Universe. 

So you know that the creator of the world is Brahma. The most sacred book 
about life, everything and the rest, is the Upanishad.
date: 27 Sep 2008 15:08:05 GMT   author:   Sirius

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