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date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:29:54 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
Science Disproves Evolution   
Codes, Programs, and Information 3

Life contains matter, energy, and information (d).

d.	How can we measure information? A computer file might contain
information for printing a story, reproducing a picture at a given
resolution, or producing a widget to specified tolerances. Information
can usually be compressed to some degree, just as the English language
could be compressed by eliminating every “u” that directly follows a
“q”. After compression, the number of bits (0s or 1s) would be a
measure of the information needed to produce the story, picture, or
widget.

Each living system can be described by its age and the information
stored in its DNA. Each basic unit of DNA, called a nucleotide, can be
one of four types. Therefore, each nucleotide represents two (log24 =
2) bits of information. Conceptual systems, such as ideas, a filing
system, or a system for betting on race horses, can be explained in
books. Several bits of information can define each symbol in these
books. The number of bits of information, after compression, needed to
duplicate and achieve the purpose of a system will be defined as its
information content. That number is also a measure of the system’s
complexity.

Objects and organisms are not information. Each is a complex
combination of matter and energy that the proper equipment—and
information—could theoretically produce. Matter and energy alone
cannot produce complex objects, living organisms, or information.

While we may not know the precise amount of information in different
organisms, we do know those numbers are enormous and quite different.
Simply changing (mutating) a few bits to begin the gigantic leap
toward evolving a new organ or organism would likely kill the host.

“Information is information, not matter or energy. No materialism
which does not admit this can survive at the present day.” Norbert
Wiener, Cybernetics; or, Control and Communication in the Animal and
the Machine, 2nd edition (Cambridge, Massachusetts: MIT Press, 1948),
p. 132.

Werner Gitt (Professor of Information Systems) describes man as the
most complex information processing system on earth. Gitt estimated
that about 3 × 10^24 bits of information are processed daily in an
average human body. That is thousands of times more than all the
information in all the world’s libraries. [See Werner Gitt, In the
Beginning Was Information, 2nd edition (Bielefeld, Germany: CLV,
2000), p. 88.]

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/LifeSciences18.html#wp1050369
date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:29:54 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: S'more of Palu's fundy bullcrap   
The ONLY time the words creation and science should EVER be used in
the same sentence is when the phrase "is NOT" has been inserted
between them
date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Science Disproves Evolution   
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:29:54 -0700, Pahu78 wrote :

[...]
> While we may not know the precise amount of information in different
> organisms, we do know those numbers are enormous and quite different.
> Simply changing (mutating) a few bits to begin the gigantic leap toward
> evolving a new organ or organism would likely kill the host.
[...]
It is your opinion. 
And even if it is true, likely is not always. And even if a very small 
number of mutations don't kill their host, it is enough to admit 
mutations as one of the possible evolution mechanism.

Another not failed attempt. 

And evolution is only one small obstacle on the young earth hypothesis of 
your full of false science web site. Many many other facts don't prove 
evolution, but prove the young earth hypothesis necessary for you cult to 
be true is not possible at all. 

So your "the bible is a factual history book" conjecture is proven false.
date: 19 Aug 2008 20:22:12 GMT   author:   Sirius

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