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date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:01:42 -0500,    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
Re: Does your FAITH equal : 10^40,000 th power ?!   
The quote is WRITTEN by Dr. Francis Crick himself.  Would you like
source info for his quote ?   If he appealed to Hoyle and Hoyles
calculations...then he in support of them.   Are you going to believe in
what world reknown atheist Dr. Francis Crick  believes in ?  He believes
the chance of life coming along according to the atheist philosophy,  is
10^40,000 th power.  Have you got this much faith ?   I dont.  He
doesnt.  You dont .   Is it your desire for a totally autonomous
lifestyle  that makes this much faith, a necessity ?
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:01:42 -0500   author:   (Dave in Lake Villa)

Re: Does your FAITH equal : 10^40,000 th power ?!   
The message 
from DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) contains these words:

> The quote is WRITTEN by Dr. Francis Crick himself.  Would you like
> source info for his quote ?   If he appealed to Hoyle and Hoyles
> calculations...then he in support of them.   Are you going to believe in
> what world reknown atheist Dr. Francis Crick  believes in ?  He believes
> the chance of life coming along according to the atheist philosophy,  is
> 10^40,000 th power.  Have you got this much faith ?   I dont.  He
> doesnt.  You dont .   Is it your desire for a totally autonomous
> lifestyle  that makes this much faith, a necessity ?

Even if the quote was genuine it proves nothing.   One thing we can be
certain of is that Crick does not believe in a god and that despite
whatever odds are quoted life did come into being without the
intervention of an imaginary god.

-- 
********
DavidWG
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date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:28:04 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: Does your FAITH equal : 10^40,000 th power ?!   
The message 
from DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) contains these words:

> The quote is WRITTEN by Dr. Francis Crick himself.  Would you like
> source info for his quote ?   If he appealed to Hoyle and Hoyles
> calculations...then he in support of them.   Are you going to believe in
> what world reknown atheist Dr. Francis Crick  believes in ?  He believes
> the chance of life coming along according to the atheist philosophy,  is
> 10^40,000 th power.  Have you got this much faith ?   I dont.  He
> doesnt.  You dont .   Is it your desire for a totally autonomous
> lifestyle  that makes this much faith, a necessity ?

Like most of your quotes that from Dr. Francis Crick has been shown to
be false.   That evolution is beyond your comprehension is apparent but
your constant appeals to the fallacies of incredulity and ignorance do
not advance your case and only serve to illustrate your stupidity.  
When you can produce some credible evidence for the existence of your
god it might be possible to have an intelligent discussion but I am not
holding my breath!.
-- 
********
DavidWG
********
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:31:49 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: Does your FAITH equal : 10^40,000 th power ?!   
X-No-Archive: yes

"Dave in Lake Villa"  wrote in message 
news:24215-488F22C6-2195@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net...
> The quote is WRITTEN by Dr. Francis Crick himself.  Would you like
> source info for his quote ?

Yes please.  Very much.
I have given you Francis Crick's writing of the words you posted (allowing a 
little flourishment on your, or your providers, part).
It is from "The Intelligent Universe, Fred Hoyle, 1983.
If you have the source for a Francis Crick text that contains the words you 
posted then please let us have it....
Now, be clear about this,  we need a clear reference of work, paper, radio 
or tv appearance, book  so that it can be checked that what YOU say is 
accurate.
Let's have it please......

 >If he appealed to Hoyle and Hoyles
> calculations...then he in support of them.   Are you going to believe in
> what world reknown atheist Dr. Francis Crick  believes in ?  He believes
> the chance of life coming along according to the atheist philosophy,  is
> 10^40,000 th power.

Look dave,  there are thousands of scientists worldwide who do not believe 
this stuff, yet you hang onto the words of one scientist as though it is any 
more, or less, important than another.
However, what you fail to see and understand is that at no point is the 
probability NIL.   No where.   Do you understand what this means...?
It means that however *improbable* it might appear to you.......(or any 
other that wants to parade these statistical guesses) it is NOT 
*impossible*.....   To extrapolet further, it means it is POSSIBLE.!!



> Have you got this much faith ?   I dont.  He
> doesnt.  You dont .   Is it your desire for a totally autonomous
> lifestyle  that makes this much faith, a necessity ?

Yes.  Your friend frank turek again.....!
We go round and round and round in circles with your inane dogma.
Define "Faith"  please......?
Explain how the quasi evidence you have produced here approaches, or is 
associated with,  a ..."totally autonomous lifestyle"...?
Describe how, in your view,  something that is *possible"  requires 
faith....?    What sort of faith does one need to have to believe that 
something that is possible is, well..........possible..?



Mark
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:47:15 +0100   author:   mark

Re: Does your FAITH equal : 10^40,000 th power ?!   
Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> The quote is WRITTEN by Dr. Francis Crick himself.  Would you like
> source info for his quote ?   If he appealed to Hoyle and Hoyles
> calculations...then he in support of them.   Are you going to believe
> in what world reknown atheist Dr. Francis Crick  believes in ?  He
> believes the chance of life coming along according to the atheist
> philosophy,  is 10^40,000 th power.  Have you got this much faith ?
> I dont.  He doesnt.  You dont .   Is it your desire for a totally
> autonomous lifestyle  that makes this much faith, a necessity ?

Note the anger in Dimwit's style: It may be that he is becoming frustrated 
that nobody will take his claims at face-value and just beleive without 
question.

Note the fact that he has fallen back on the "totally autonomous lifestyle" 
phrase as a last-ditch attempt.

Dimwit you haven't convinced anybody of anything other than your own lack of 
gumption and your naivity. You've FAILED; but I'm sure you're quite used to 
that by now.
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date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:15:07 +0100   author:   Dr.Hal0nf1r?$ lid

Re: Does your FAITH equal : 10^40,000 th power ?!   
X-No-Archive: yes

"mark"  wrote in message 
news:o8-dnS60ip9OHBLVnZ2dnUVZ8g6dnZ2d@bt.com...
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> "Dave in Lake Villa"  wrote in message 
> news:24215-488F22C6-2195@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net...
>> The quote is WRITTEN by Dr. Francis Crick himself.  Would you like
>> source info for his quote ?
>
> Yes please.  Very much.
> I have given you Francis Crick's writing of the words you posted (allowing 
> a little flourishment on your, or your providers, part).

oooops.
Just noticed the silly and confusing error I made above.
It should have been, of course,

"I have given you the Fred Hoyle's writing of the words you posted (allowing 
a little flourishment on your, or your providers, part)."



> It is from "The Intelligent Universe, Fred Hoyle, 1983.
> If you have the source for a Francis Crick text that contains the words 
> you posted then please let us have it....
> Now, be clear about this,  we need a clear reference of work, paper, radio 
> or tv appearance, book  so that it can be checked that what YOU say is 
> accurate.
> Let's have it please......


Apologies...... senior moment.


Mark
date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:19:09 +0100   author:   mark

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