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date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:05:00 GMT,    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
The Skeptic Tank discussion forum is back   
http://www.raids.org/forum/index.php

The Skeptic Tank has re-created a discussion forum since the old
one kind of died when various PHP files or database files got hosed
or corrupted over the years.  It got so many message postings that
never got deleted so it kind of crapped up and devolved.

I don't ever censor anything unless it's something really, grossly
actionable, and even then I probably wouldn't.  }:-}

Current forums cover:

o The Adam, Lilith, and Eve mythologies and the ways in which 
supposedly inviolate mythologies change over the years.

o Audio visual and other product scams -- The crooks who sell the rubes
$1000 speaker cables claiming their pruducts are some how magically
better than the usual $3 cables gets described along with all the other
scams and frauds being sold to the rubes, marks, and suckers.

o Big Foot and other improbable creatures that are fun to believe
in but which evidence suggests that the believers are being silly.

o Creationist Kooks and Science that smacks the dishonest, insane,
god-struck morons down every time.

o Dead scientists and the future of humanity in an age of increasing
stupidity, occultism, apathy, and dumbth.

o Fight!  Fight!  I hate that asshole -- where people can tell all
about the Internet assholes they hate and why they hate them.

o Flying Saucers, Alien Abductions, free anal probing and other
rude medical examinations conducted by unauthorized, unlicensed
beings from other planets.

o Mormon Madness -- all the violently insane, hate-filled varities of
the religious among us.  Why won't the insanely religious leave their
intellectual and moral superiors (that would be atheists) out of their
violently insane delusions?

o Paranormal, magical powers and other Newage (rhymes with Sewage)
stupidity, nonsense, crimes, scams, frauds.  And just where is that
god damned criminal Uri Geller these days, any way?

o Scientology crime syndicate.  From Anonymous, through heterosexual 
Tom Cruise (yuck!) all the way to Zoloft, everything Scientological
(and by perforce stupid and criminal) gets discussed here.

o Sex, homofags, heterosexuals, and those who hate them.  Why do hate
groups pick on people of various classes as a unifying force to garner
power (and money) to foment even more evil?

o Zeebras and other things -- off topic nonsense like god damned
fucking Republinazi war criminals and traitors and equally god-damned
Democrat piles of traitorshit can be discussed.


---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5W8ALB0SNU
Insane woman verbally assaults 2 little girls
date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:05:00 GMT   author:   (Fredric L. Rice)

Re: The Skeptic Tank discussion forum is back   
On Jul 26, 12:05 pm, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
> http://www.raids.org/forum/index.php
>
> The Skeptic Tank has re-created a discussion forum since the old
> one kind of died when various PHP files or database files got hosed
> or corrupted over the years.  It got so many message postings that
> never got deleted so it kind of crapped up and devolved.
>
> I don't ever censor anything unless it's something really, grossly
> actionable, and even then I probably wouldn't.  }:-}
>
> Current forums cover:
>
> o The Adam, Lilith, and Eve mythologies and the ways in which
> supposedly inviolate mythologies change over the years.
>
> o Audio visual and other product scams -- The crooks who sell the rubes
> $1000 speaker cables claiming their pruducts are some how magically
> better than the usual $3 cables gets described along with all the other
> scams and frauds being sold to the rubes, marks, and suckers.
>
> o Big Foot and other improbable creatures that are fun to believe
> in but which evidence suggests that the believers are being silly.
>
> o Creationist Kooks and Science that smacks the dishonest, insane,
> god-struck morons down every time.
>
> o Dead scientists and the future of humanity in an age of increasing
> stupidity, occultism, apathy, and dumbth.
>
> o Fight!  Fight!  I hate that asshole -- where people can tell all
> about the Internet assholes they hate and why they hate them.
>
> o Flying Saucers, Alien Abductions, free anal probing and other
> rude medical examinations conducted by unauthorized, unlicensed
> beings from other planets.
>
> o Mormon Madness -- all the violently insane, hate-filled varities of
> the religious among us.  Why won't the insanely religious leave their
> intellectual and moral superiors (that would be atheists) out of their
> violently insane delusions?
>
> o Paranormal, magical powers and other Newage (rhymes with Sewage)
> stupidity, nonsense, crimes, scams, frauds.  And just where is that
> god damned criminal Uri Geller these days, any way?
>
> o Scientology crime syndicate.  From Anonymous, through heterosexual
> Tom Cruise (yuck!) all the way to Zoloft, everything Scientological
> (and by perforce stupid and criminal) gets discussed here.
>
> o Sex, homofags, heterosexuals, and those who hate them.  Why do hate
> groups pick on people of various classes as a unifying force to garner
> power (and money) to foment even more evil?
>
> o Zeebras and other things -- off topic nonsense like god damned
> fucking Republinazi war criminals and traitors and equally god-damned
> Democrat piles of traitorshit can be discussed.
>
> ---http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5W8ALB0SNU
> Insane woman verbally assaults 2 little girls

REPLY: Adam and Eve are not mythologys ;  humans from Pond Scum is .
There is archeological evidence going  back to the first 11 chapters
of Genesis if you care to google or go to www.ankerberg.com  .
Further, the Ebla Tablets found in Egypt  take us all the way back to
the Creation account of Genesis in the Bible. Finally,  because the
Bible can be shown to be supernatural in origin (do a google or go to
www.impactapologetics.com) , then  it IS the inspired words of the
personal creator for our Universe including how he made the Universe
as well as our first Parents , fully formed and fully functioning
right from the start  without any accidental mutations whatsoever .
If you dont buy any of what i just said, then believe in atheist Dr.
Francis Crick who calculated the chance of macro evolution bringing
forth a brain (not a human brain....but ANY sort of a brain) at
10^40,000 th power.  Now friends....THAT is FAITH !!!
date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:41:47 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: The Skeptic Tank discussion forum is back   
In article 
,
 "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"  wrote:
> 
> If you dont buy any of what i just said, then believe in atheist Dr.
> Francis Crick who calculated the chance of macro evolution bringing
> forth a brain (not a human brain....but ANY sort of a brain) at
> 10^40,000 th power.  Now friends....THAT is FAITH !!!

Reference please!

Where did he say that, and how did he make the calculation?


Alwyn
date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:05:33 +0100   author:   Alwyn

Re: The Skeptic Tank discussion forum is back   
On Jul 26, 2:41 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> im playing my standard aviodism card and won't answer any questions posed to me

Why?

Because I'm a FUCKING TROLL
date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:42:34 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: The Skeptic Tank discussion forum is back   
X-No-Archive: yes

 wrote in message 
news:8c1b02ec-8b47-419e-a2c3-a0e5a7e1c4eb@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 26, 12:05 pm, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
> http://www.raids.org/forum/index.php
>
> The Skeptic Tank has re-created a discussion forum since the old
> one kind of died when various PHP files or database files got hosed
> or corrupted over the years. It got so many message postings that
> never got deleted so it kind of crapped up and devolved.

+++trimmed++++++

****************
REPLY: Adam and Eve are not mythologys ;  humans from Pond Scum is .
There is archeological evidence going  back to the first 11 chapters
of Genesis if you care to google or go to www.ankerberg.com  .
Further, the Ebla Tablets found in Egypt  take us all the way back to
the Creation account of Genesis in the Bible.
****************


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do you think that stone tablets are any more accurate than contemporary 
books...?
Further, your link is a complete waste of time and energy, it points to a 
general page that seems largely to be selling books and tv broadcast - all 
theological based.   Tell me, what kind of information am I likely to find 
in this type of website ......?   Independent, scholarly research..? 
Science...?  Evidence...?
No, of course not.  It's this circular, self supporting religious mechanism 
that depends on itself to support assertion.
Now,  the first thing you are going to have to accept is that there is NO 
*archeological* evidence for an Adam & Eve existence.   If you believe you 
have it, then please post it specifically here.
Secondly, perhaps you might explain how humankind - created much later 
(under your superstitious belief) were around at the time of the creation 
(your superstitious belief) to have left anything enduring...?
Perhaps, whilst you're at that,  you might explain how the people who left 
such tablets understood, or learned, language that could be inscribed..?  In 
addition, you might also like to date the stones you speak of so that we can 
understand the time spans between this creation and it's written account.
And finally, having established that manking actually inscribed the tablets, 
you might explain how that makes it *creator* accurate..?
(CLUE:   inspiration is the usual answer here......)



**************
Finally,  because the
Bible can be shown to be supernatural in origin (do a google or go to
www.impactapologetics.com) , then  it IS the inspired words of the
personal creator for our Universe
**************


Do tell.......
Please do explain how the bible can be shown thus.
Actually, which bible do you refer to...?   .... or do you mean ALL of them.
And what about the re-writes?  and the translations that were carried out..? 
and the 'left out' gospels...?
Then perhaps you could explain how "inspiration"   can be construed as 
*actual* ....?


**************
If you dont buy any of what i just said, then believe in atheist Dr.
Francis Crick who calculated the chance of macro evolution bringing
forth a brain (not a human brain....but ANY sort of a brain) at
10^40,000 th power.  Now friends....THAT is FAITH !!!
**************


You have repeated this around 4/5 times in the past week or so alone.
Can you give any indication of where and when this was said by Francis 
Crick...?
Remember, you have stated it,  you have been asked to substantiate your 
claim, it is now up to you to provide the evidence that what you state is 
true.  Absence of doing so suggests that your statement is wholly false...



Mark
date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:51:36 +0100   author:   mark

Re: The Skeptic Tank discussion forum is back ***IBB should feel right at home there***   
On Jul 26, 2:41 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  wrote:

 > REPLY: Adam and Eve are not mythologys ;

JFC!!!!

I assume that this MUST the same fundy fuckwit who has posted as
daveinlakevilla because there can't possibly be two such deluded such
people on the Usenet
Tell us, were you selected to represent the US in the 2008 Olympics in
the category as the Dumbest Christian C**ksucker on Earth?
If so, you're sure to win the gold with such a lame-assed bone-headed
stupid statement like that one.

Isn't it a bit painful to be so f**king stupid?

Hewy
date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:40:03 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Hewy

Re: The Skeptic Tank discussion forum is back   
IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:

> 
> REPLY: Adam and Eve are not mythologys ;  humans from Pond Scum is .
> There is archeological evidence going  back to the first 11 chapters
> of Genesis if you care to google or go to www.ankerberg.com  .
> Further, the Ebla Tablets found in Egypt  take us all the way back to
> the Creation account of Genesis in the Bible. Finally,  because the
> Bible can be shown to be supernatural in origin (do a google or go to
> www.impactapologetics.com) , then  it IS the inspired words of the
> personal creator for our Universe including how he made the Universe
> as well as our first Parents , fully formed and fully functioning
> right from the start  without any accidental mutations whatsoever .

I've followed up your references above.

The site links you give do not point directly to any evidence on the 
topics you reference, as far as I can see.

As far as I can ascertain, the Ebla Tablets only make reference to 
names that may sound similar to Adam and Eve, but mention all sorts 
of other gods instead - so don't provide any of the confirmation you 
claim and seem to contradict your god mythology.

However, feel free to post direct and precise links to the evidence 
you claim exists.

In addition, you have have never provided any evidence that this god 
entity you mention actually exists, which is fundamental to your claims.

So, mythology is where it all stands at present, unless you can 
provide some really convincing evidence, which you clearly can't - 
or you (and your fellow christian sect members) would have already 
done so.

regards, Ian
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:09:17 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

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