Isn't this sort of thing outlawed these days, or do Human Rights allow 
religions to be prejudice?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7492935.stm

Steve M

Steve Marshall wrote:
> Isn't this sort of thing outlawed these days, or do Human Rights allow 
> religions to be prejudice?
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7492935.stm

It is absolutely allowed under English law.

We allow religions exemption from the law when it comes to 
slaughtering animals, we (apparently) allow religious schools 
exemption from the national curriculum, we allow religious schools 
(even the state funded ones) to discriminate in employment (so they 
can discriminate against atheists, women, gays, those who co-habit 
... ), we allow religious charities (or welfare providers as they 
can be known) to discriminate in employment.

But that is what religion is all about: in-group altruism, out-group 
hostility.

Sooner or later, human rights will catch up with these people...

The BHA deserves a pat on the back for this:

http://tinyurl.com/6lbyr2

regards, Ian

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"Ian Smith"  wrote in message 
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> Steve Marshall wrote:
>> Isn't this sort of thing outlawed these days, or do Human Rights allow 
>> religions to be prejudice?
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7492935.stm
>
> It is absolutely allowed under English law.
>
> We allow religions exemption from the law when it comes to slaughtering 
> animals, we (apparently) allow religious schools exemption from the 
> national curriculum, we allow religious schools (even the state funded 
> ones) to discriminate in employment (so they can discriminate against 
> atheists, women, gays, those who co-habit ... ), we allow religious 
> charities (or welfare providers as they can be known) to discriminate in 
> employment.
>
> But that is what religion is all about: in-group altruism, out-group 
> hostility.
>
> Sooner or later, human rights will catch up with these people...


Yes.
It is incredible.... absolutely, fantastically incredible that *we* (that 
being all of our society, which, if current figures are to be believed 
suggests that less than 2% are active church goers and less than half 
'claim' to be christian ) tolerate this nonsensical situation.
Special convention because of *believing* in a superstition.......!!!
Ha, it's almost so ridiculous as to not warrant 
consideration.................except it is going on around us, insidiously 
discriminating for no other reason than the perpretrators hold a religious 
belief.
History will show these monstrous, unsocial acts as grave mistakes that 
perpetuated the superstition it defended...


Mark

On Jul 7, 5:49 pm, "Steve Marshall"  wrote:
> Isn't this sort of thing outlawed these days, or do Human Rights allow
> religions to be prejudice?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7492935.stm
>
> Steve M

REPLY: In the Christian Faith, The Bible clearly gives instruction on
who should be Pastors, Leaders, Deacons, Teachers, and so forth
because God wired men and women differently for various tasks and
because God is someone who believes in order ;  its not a case of
'prejudice' .    How does it work in the Atheism Religion  amongst
national Atheist Associations ?

IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 7, 5:49 pm, "Steve Marshall"  wrote:
>> Isn't this sort of thing outlawed these days, or do Human Rights
>> allow religions to be prejudice?
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7492935.stm
>>
>> Steve M
>
> REPLY: In the Christian Faith, The Bible clearly gives instruction on
> who should be Pastors, Leaders, Deacons, Teachers, and so forth
> because God wired men and women differently for various tasks and
> because God is someone who believes in order ;  its not a case of
> 'prejudice' .    How does it work in the Atheism Religion  amongst
> national Atheist Associations ?

Your god quite clearly dropped a spanner in your wiring!

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IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 7, 5:49 pm, "Steve Marshall"  wrote:
>> Isn't this sort of thing outlawed these days, or do Human Rights allow
>> religions to be prejudice?
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7492935.stm
>>
>> Steve M
> 
> REPLY: In the Christian Faith, The Bible clearly gives instruction on
> who should be Pastors, Leaders, Deacons, Teachers, and so forth
> because God wired men and women differently for various tasks and
> because God is someone who believes in order ;  its not a case of
> 'prejudice' .    How does it work in the Atheism Religion  amongst
> national Atheist Associations ?

Ah yes, the atheist religions. I don't know of any, personally, that 
- being a logical contradiction - exist outside of your mind.

The closest I could think of would the British Humanist Association.
Maybe you should ask their president Polly Toynbee or their Chief 
Exec Hanne Stinson? Strange that they have attained these positions 
having been wired differently?

regards, Ian

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On Jul 7, 5:49 pm, "Steve Marshall"  wrote:

> Isn't this sort of thing outlawed these days, or do Human Rights allow
> religions to be prejudice?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7492935.stm
>
> Steve M

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REPLY: In the Christian Faith, The Bible clearly gives instruction on
who should be Pastors, Leaders, Deacons, Teachers, and so forth
because God wired men and women differently for various tasks and
because God is someone who believes in order ;  its not a case of
'prejudice' .
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How about this then:

Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is 
neither male nor female; for ye are all one in Christ Jesus"

However, what we DO know is that the bible was written by men, in a time of 
great patriarchy, for men.
I love reading the turmoil going on of those who today, as we speak, are 
re-writing, re-intepreting, re-translating this mish mash of mythological 
literature as though it were real.  As though it hasn't been sanitised over 
2000 years already.
The out of context quotes, the omission of quotes that are counter to the 
desired objective, the interpretation, the allegory...  you will all stew in 
your own hotpot of religious confusion..

Mark

On Jul 8, 7:40 pm, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
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> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 7, 5:49 pm, "Steve Marshall"  wrote:
> >> Isn't this sort of thing outlawed these days, or do Human Rights
> >> allow religions to be prejudice?
>
> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7492935.stm
>
> >> Steve M
>
> > REPLY: In the Christian Faith, The Bible clearly gives instruction on
> > who should be Pastors, Leaders, Deacons, Teachers, and so forth
> > because God wired men and women differently for various tasks and
> > because God is someone who believes in order ;  its not a case of
> > 'prejudice' .    How does it work in the Atheism Religion  amongst
> > national Atheist Associations ?
>
> Your god quite clearly dropped a spanner in your wiring!
>
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