'atheists included)   
 
Group: uk.philosophy.atheism Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008, 9:20am (CDT)
From: calee@optonline.net (Christopher A. Lee) 
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:19:22 -0700 (PDT), "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"
 wrote: 
Atheists have a religion they follow ---- 
Liar.  '

REPLY:   Do you have belief in a Worldview,  do you have an opinion on
Origins , on morality (relativism) ,  on sexual freedom, etc.. ??    YES
!   You do. Everyone else does as well.  Stop calling people a Liar and
get in touch with the reality of who you are :  Someone who has a
personal Religion they follow...a set of beliefs/agenda/life
philosophy/and motives they carry out in their daily life. Atheism is
simply a Religion of the Secular variety ;  same for Secular Humanism.
So..next time you bash someones Religion,  remember youre being
hypocritical.

On Jun 21, 10:48 am, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa)
wrote:
> 'atheists included)  
>
> Group: uk.philosophy.atheism Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008, 9:20am (CDT)
> From: ca...@optonline.net (Christopher A. Lee)
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:19:22 -0700 (PDT), "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" wrote:
>
> Atheists have a religion they follow ----
> Liar.  '
>
> REPLY:    Stop calling people a Liar and
> get in touch with the reality of who you are :  

You're a PROVEN LIAR
Faked abortion pictures
Altered Albert Einstein quotes
Totally false George Washington quotes
Not to mention the many times you keep on posting the same incorrect
quotes/data/information even after being shown your source is
incorrect and totally flawed

YOU DO NOT HAVE AND NEVER HAVE NEVER HAD ANY CREDIBILITY

> So..next time you bash someones Religion,  remember youre being
> hypocritical.

Speaking of hypocrites.
Here's a guy who rails against abortion yet forced his underaged sperm
bank to have one.
Here's a guy who rails against gays yet has admitted to being a
homosexual

Dave in Lake Villa  wrote:
> 'atheists included)   
> 
> Group: uk.philosophy.atheism Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008, 9:20am (CDT+1)
> From: calee@optonline.net (Christopher A. Lee) 
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:19:22 -0700 (PDT), "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"
>  wrote: 
> Atheists have a religion they follow ---- 
> Liar.  '
> 
> REPLY:   Do you have belief in a Worldview,  do you have an opinion on
> Origins , on morality (relativism) ,  on sexual freedom, etc.. ??    YES
> !   You do. Everyone else does as well.  Stop calling people a Liar and
> get in touch with the reality of who you are :  Someone who has a
> personal Religion they follow...a set of beliefs/agenda/life
> philosophy/and motives they carry out in their daily life. Atheism is
> simply a Religion of the Secular variety ;  same for Secular Humanism.
> So..next time you bash someones Religion,  remember youre being
> hypocritical.

You seem to suggesting that a football fan is in fact following a religion. 
I suspect that your friendly neigbourhood priest would not agree.

-- 
Robert A Heinlein: Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark
                   cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there.

Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> 'atheists included)   
>  
> Group: uk.philosophy.atheism Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008, 9:20am (CDT+1)
> From: calee@optonline.net (Christopher A. Lee) 
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:19:22 -0700 (PDT), "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"
>  wrote: 
> Atheists have a religion they follow ---- 
> Liar.  '
> 
> REPLY:   Do you have belief in a Worldview,  do you have an opinion on
> Origins , on morality (relativism) ,  on sexual freedom, etc.. ??    YES
> !   You do.

Well, as it happens - no. No more than a stamp collector has a 
opinion on moral relativism.

A-theism: without a belief in a deity.

Nothing more and nothing less.

regards, Ian

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'atheists included)

Group: uk.philosophy.atheism Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008, 9:20am (CDT+1)
From: calee@optonline.net (Christopher A. Lee)
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:19:22 -0700 (PDT), "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"
 wrote:
Atheists have a religion they follow ---- 
Liar.  '

REPLY:   Do you have belief in a Worldview,  >

No, I do not have such a belief.

< do you have an opinion on
Origins , >

No I do not have an opinion on 'Origins', in particular because the comment 
refers to quite a big issue and so is meaningless.


< on morality (relativism) >

I have no idea why you put a word in brackets, as though the word 'morality' 
was insufficient.  Of course I have an opinion on the particular aspect of 
morality which is, say, lying in a court of law in order to get an innocent 
person convicted.  It is my opinion that that action should be punishable 
fairly severely, because it is far from what I consider to be reasonable 
behaviour.


<  ,  on sexual freedom, >

No I do not have an opinion on sexual freedom, whatever you mean by the 
phrase.


<  etc.. ?? >

Since I do not know what yopu mean by 'etc.. ??' I can have no opinion on 
it.

< YES  You do. >

As I have explained above, no I don't to some of your postulates.

< Everyone else does as well. >

Since I don't, I am afraid I do not accept that other people do.  In fact I 
am quite sure it is not correct.

<  So..next time you bash someones Religion,  remember youre being
hypocritical. >

Quite a well made point, but since I do not bash anyone's religion, it does 
not apply to me.  Of course it was not directed at me, but your implication 
was that it applies to all 'Atheists' so I am pointing out that it doesn't.

This is not a minor trivial point though.  You were making a bald statement 
supposed to be directed at 'all', and it was quite incorrect.

You need to learn that there are many different types of people and most of 
them are perfectly fine and reasonable, while some of them are certainly 
not.  Just because some are in disagreement with me, or you, does not mean 
that they are in the group who are not.