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date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:04:46 +0100,    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
Dimwit Didn't Answer...   
...Regarding this discussion:

IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 30, 12:10 pm, David Wynne-Griffiths 
> wrote:
>> Not many 10 year olds have sufficient maturity to appreciate that
>> gods are just the invention of mankind. Children are inclined to
>> believe what they are told by those in authority and it is only as
>> they grow up that they realise that much of what they have been told
>> is false.
>>
>> Has anyone ceased to believe in gods because of a desire for personal
>> freedom in their social life? It is yet another non sequitur but the
>> idiot seems to be driven by his personal aberrations and fears.
>>
>> Does the idiot not realise that it is lack of belief in gods, as a
>> result of the total absence of any credible evidence for their
>> existence, which characterises atheism and that there is no ulterior
>> motive for such disbelief.
>>
>> --
>> ********
>> David WG
>> ********
>
> REPLY:  David,  You sure arnt going to rationally explain the
> precision of the Universe by appealing to accidents and 'Nothing'  !
> Its far more likely that first life came about by accident than the
> Universe and its 250 + anthropics...but .... according to atheist Dr.
> Crick, youre looking at something far greater than 10^40,000  ;   now
> thats FAITH man !!!    Have you got that much David ?!

Please explain what is meant by terms such as "the precision of the
universe": I don't want to hear parroted bullshit about two million
parameters or whatever unintelligible shite that the reply usually contains:
I want to hear what DiLV personally understands that so convinces him, if
indeed he is capable of understanding anything. If I wanted to hear a pack
of lies and a load of crap I'd visit fundy websites myself.

- So Dimwit; in your own words using your own thoughts, if such
things exist, convince me in the face of overwhelming evidence that
creationism has got it right. If you can't then admit it and be honest for
once in your life. I await with cynicism the first logical piece of credible
evidence in support of your case...

---

Dimwit let me ask you about something else before you answer, as I'm sure 
you're just about to do despite the delay: Have you ever heard of gamma-ray 
bursts? They're going off all the time at around a billion light years 
distance - So we're seeing them actually going off at around a billion years 
ago since light and gamma-rays travel at the same speed: Staggering isn't 
it; considering also that this fact rubbishes the claims of a 6000-year-old 
universe - But the main thrust of this point was the colossal energies 
involved: A nuclear explosion from a weapon here on earth produces a limited 
amount of gamma rays; with energies in the hundreds of thousands of 
electron-volts; but in the visible light that we see, that ranges between 2 
to 4 electron-volts, such an incredibly bright explosion would barely be 
detectable from as nearby as the moon. In the gamma spectrum even you'd have 
difficulty detecting it from Jupiter; which is considerably less than half a 
light year away; but we're seeing gamma-ray bursts from a billion plus light 
years away - They must be colossal and unimaginably violent explosions- 
perhaps of the first stars, galaxy-cores, or sub-galaxies, to form after the 
Big Bang(?) We're recording gamma-rays with energies of over 10 
GIGA-electron-volts! (Ten BILLION electron-volts!) These gamma rays are a 
billion years old and have travelled as many miles; yet they're still 
powerful enough to pass through and disrupt matter - and then some. Such 
massive explosions, if local, would obliterate a portion of our galaxy and 
could even turn radioactive dust into gold among other elements.

My question is this: How does the observable fact fit in with your 
delusional vision of a peaceful, tranquil, ordered, smooth-running universe, 
all chugging along peacefully under the auspices of a Jewish sky-fairy?

-- 
http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
Personalised Desktop Computers
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:04:46 +0100   author:   Dr.Hal0nf1r?$ lid

Re: Dimwit Didn't Answer...   
On Jun 12, 9:04 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
 ...Regarding this discussion:

> Dimwit let me ask you about something else before you answer, as I'm sure
> you're just about to do despite the delay: Have you ever heard of gamma-ray
> bursts? They're going off all the time at around a billion light years
> distance - So we're seeing them actually going off at around a billion years
> ago since light and gamma-rays travel at the same speed: Staggering isn't
> it; considering also that this fact rubbishes the claims of a 6000-year-old
> universe - But the main thrust of this point was the colossal energies
> involved: A nuclear explosion from a weapon here on earth produces a limited
> amount of gamma rays; with energies in the hundreds of thousands of
> electron-volts; but in the visible light that we see, that ranges between 2
> to 4 electron-volts, such an incredibly bright explosion would barely be
> detectable from as nearby as the moon. In the gamma spectrum even you'd have
> difficulty detecting it from Jupiter; which is considerably less than half a
> light year away; but we're seeing gamma-ray bursts from a billion plus light
> years away - They must be colossal and unimaginably violent explosions-
> perhaps of the first stars, galaxy-cores, or sub-galaxies, to form after the
> Big Bang(?) We're recording gamma-rays with energies of over 10
> GIGA-electron-volts! (Ten BILLION electron-volts!) These gamma rays are a
> billion years old and have travelled as many miles; yet they're still
> powerful enough to pass through and disrupt matter - and then some. Such
> massive explosions, if local, would obliterate a portion of our galaxy and> could even turn radioactive dust into gold among other elements.
>
> My question is this: How does the observable fact fit in with your
> delusional vision of a peaceful, tranquil, ordered, smooth-running universe,
> all chugging along peacefully under the auspices of a Jewish sky-fairy?
>
> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> Personalised Desktop Computers
JFC!
You're asking this of an idiot who believes the moon is 865.000 miles
from the earth and has developed a revolutionary new theory that the
Sun is powered by Nitrogen (atomic weight of 7) being fusing INTO
Helium (atomic weight of 2)

(I doubt if he's ever heard of a GRB)
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Dimwit Didn't Answer...   
Ken wrote:
> On Jun 12, 9:04 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>  ...Regarding this discussion:
>
>> Dimwit let me ask you about something else before you answer, as I'm
>> sure you're just about to do despite the delay: Have you ever heard
>> of gamma-ray bursts? They're going off all the time at around a
>> billion light years distance - So we're seeing them actually going
>> off at around a billion years ago since light and gamma-rays travel
>> at the same speed: Staggering isn't it; considering also that this
>> fact rubbishes the claims of a 6000-year-old universe - But the main
>> thrust of this point was the colossal energies involved: A nuclear
>> explosion from a weapon here on earth produces a limited amount of
>> gamma rays; with energies in the hundreds of thousands of
>> electron-volts; but in the visible light that we see, that ranges
>> between 2 to 4 electron-volts, such an incredibly bright explosion
>> would barely be detectable from as nearby as the moon. In the gamma
>> spectrum even you'd have difficulty detecting it from Jupiter; which
>> is considerably less than half a light year away; but we're seeing
>> gamma-ray bursts from a billion plus light years away - They must be
>> colossal and unimaginably violent explosions- perhaps of the first
>> stars, galaxy-cores, or sub-galaxies, to form after the Big Bang(?)
>> We're recording gamma-rays with energies of over 10
>> GIGA-electron-volts! (Ten BILLION electron-volts!) These gamma rays
>> are a billion years old and have travelled as many miles; yet
>> they're still powerful enough to pass through and disrupt matter -
>> and then some. Such massive explosions, if local, would obliterate a
>> portion of our galaxy and could even turn radioactive dust into gold
>> among other elements.
>>
>> My question is this: How does the observable fact fit in with your
>> delusional vision of a peaceful, tranquil, ordered, smooth-running
>> universe, all chugging along peacefully under the auspices of a
>> Jewish sky-fairy?
>>
>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>> Personalised Desktop Computers
> JFC!
> You're asking this of an idiot who believes the moon is 865.000 miles
> from the earth and has developed a revolutionary new theory that the
> Sun is powered by Nitrogen (atomic weight of 7) being fusing INTO
> Helium (atomic weight of 2)
>
> (I doubt if he's ever heard of a GRB)

He has such a huge ego and is such a know-it-all that this question 
shouldn't pose him with any sort of problem if his scientific knowledge and 
perception were as meaningful and correct as he imagines.

His answer will be a good indicator of his status as an understander of 
science and will give an indication to others of his grasp on reality. His 
reticence to answer thusfar, of course, indicates that he has no credibility 
or meaningful grasp upon reality. Failure to answer will indicate that he is 
unable to answer in preference to sweeping the matter under the carpet and 
avoiding the issue, in addition to showing that he prefers to ignore facts 
that challenge his faith.

You seee Dimwit; like a lot of "Christians"; has been taught all the 
supposed "facts" that are answerable from his theology: This amount of 
knowledge is just a little beyond the average lay-person's understanding of 
science, and would baffle or convince the average joe-public. When something 
outside of his brainwashing appears in challenge to his beliefs, however, he 
engages the primal "fight or flight" scenario embedded into our ancestors by 
evolution and still prevalent as a residual base response in humans as an 
"advanced" species. (Even Dimwit has slightly greater capabilities than a 
gardsen slug - Just.) Since his comprehensive responses are so 
underdeveloped he will be unable to fathom out an answer from engaging 
whatever excuse for an intellect is laft after his processing by the fundy 
production-line, and as his brainwashing has no pre-programmed answers at 
this level he will be at a loss.

My guess is that, if he does answer, he will either attempt to change the 
subject in an attempt to bring down the level of the conversation to the 
highest level covered by his brainwashed-in pre-programmed answers; or he 
will deflect attention completely from the questions posed by challenging my 
personal integrity from his biased Xian viewpoint.

It will be interesting to note the outcome; though I have a feeling he may 
well take the easiest route and totally ignore this post.

-- 
http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
Personalised Desktop Computers
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:52:08 +0100   author:   Dr.Hal0nf1r?$ lid

Re: Dimwit Didn't Answer...   
On Jun 13, 9:52 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> Ken wrote:
> > On Jun 12, 9:04 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> > <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> >  ...Regarding this discussion:
>
> >> Dimwit let me ask you about something else before you answer, as I'm
> >> sure you're just about to do despite the delay: Have you ever heard
> >> of gamma-ray bursts? They're going off all the time at around a
> >> billion light years distance - So we're seeing them actually going
> >> off at around a billion years ago since light and gamma-rays travel
> >> at the same speed: Staggering isn't it; considering also that this
> >> fact rubbishes the claims of a 6000-year-old universe - But the main
> >> thrust of this point was the colossal energies involved: A nuclear
> >> explosion from a weapon here on earth produces a limited amount of
> >> gamma rays; with energies in the hundreds of thousands of
> >> electron-volts; but in the visible light that we see, that ranges
> >> between 2 to 4 electron-volts, such an incredibly bright explosion
> >> would barely be detectable from as nearby as the moon. In the gamma
> >> spectrum even you'd have difficulty detecting it from Jupiter; which
> >> is considerably less than half a light year away; but we're seeing
> >> gamma-ray bursts from a billion plus light years away - They must be
> >> colossal and unimaginably violent explosions- perhaps of the first
> >> stars, galaxy-cores, or sub-galaxies, to form after the Big Bang(?)
> >> We're recording gamma-rays with energies of over 10
> >> GIGA-electron-volts! (Ten BILLION electron-volts!) These gamma rays
> >> are a billion years old and have travelled as many miles; yet
> >> they're still powerful enough to pass through and disrupt matter -
> >> and then some. Such massive explosions, if local, would obliterate a
> >> portion of our galaxy and could even turn radioactive dust into gold
> >> among other elements.
>
> >> My question is this: How does the observable fact fit in with your
> >> delusional vision of a peaceful, tranquil, ordered, smooth-running
> >> universe, all chugging along peacefully under the auspices of a
> >> Jewish sky-fairy?
>
> >> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> >> Personalised Desktop Computers
> > JFC!
> > You're asking this of an idiot who believes the moon is 865.000 miles
> > from the earth and has developed a revolutionary new theory that the
> > Sun is powered by Nitrogen (atomic weight of 7) being fusing INTO
> > Helium (atomic weight of 2)
>
> > (I doubt if he's ever heard of a GRB)
>
> He has such a huge ego and is such a know-it-all that this question
> shouldn't pose him with any sort of problem if his scientific knowledge and
> perception were as meaningful and correct as he imagines.
>
> His answer will be a good indicator of his status as an understander of
> science and will give an indication to others of his grasp on reality. His> reticence to answer thusfar, of course, indicates that he has no credibility
> or meaningful grasp upon reality. Failure to answer will indicate that he is
> unable to answer in preference to sweeping the matter under the carpet and> avoiding the issue, in addition to showing that he prefers to ignore facts> that challenge his faith.
>
> You seee Dimwit; like a lot of "Christians"; has been taught all the
> supposed "facts" that are answerable from his theology: This amount of
> knowledge is just a little beyond the average lay-person's understanding of
> science, and would baffle or convince the average joe-public. When something
> outside of his brainwashing appears in challenge to his beliefs, however, he
> engages the primal "fight or flight" scenario embedded into our ancestors by
> evolution and still prevalent as a residual base response in humans as an
> "advanced" species. (Even Dimwit has slightly greater capabilities than a
> gardsen slug - Just.) Since his comprehensive responses are so
> underdeveloped he will be unable to fathom out an answer from engaging
> whatever excuse for an intellect is laft after his processing by the fundy> production-line, and as his brainwashing has no pre-programmed answers at
> this level he will be at a loss.
>
> My guess is that, if he does answer, he will either attempt to change the
> subject in an attempt to bring down the level of the conversation to the
> highest level covered by his brainwashed-in pre-programmed answers; or he
> will deflect attention completely from the questions posed by challenging my
> personal integrity from his biased Xian viewpoint.
>
> It will be interesting to note the outcome; though I have a feeling he may> well take the easiest route and totally ignore this post.
>
> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Dimwit is the greatest example that an atheist could ever display of
what Xtianity will do to a weak-minded gullible person
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:05:06 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Dimwit Didn't Answer...   
Ken wrote:
> On Jun 13, 9:52 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> Ken wrote:
>>> On Jun 12, 9:04 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>> ...Regarding this discussion:
>>
>>>> Dimwit let me ask you about something else before you answer, as
>>>> I'm sure you're just about to do despite the delay: Have you ever
>>>> heard of gamma-ray bursts? They're going off all the time at
>>>> around a billion light years distance - So we're seeing them
>>>> actually going off at around a billion years ago since light and
>>>> gamma-rays travel at the same speed: Staggering isn't it;
>>>> considering also that this fact rubbishes the claims of a
>>>> 6000-year-old universe - But the main thrust of this point was the
>>>> colossal energies involved: A nuclear explosion from a weapon here
>>>> on earth produces a limited amount of gamma rays; with energies in
>>>> the hundreds of thousands of electron-volts; but in the visible
>>>> light that we see, that ranges between 2 to 4 electron-volts, such
>>>> an incredibly bright explosion would barely be detectable from as
>>>> nearby as the moon. In the gamma spectrum even you'd have
>>>> difficulty detecting it from Jupiter; which is considerably less
>>>> than half a light year away; but we're seeing gamma-ray bursts
>>>> from a billion plus light years away - They must be colossal and
>>>> unimaginably violent explosions- perhaps of the first stars,
>>>> galaxy-cores, or sub-galaxies, to form after the Big Bang(?) We're
>>>> recording gamma-rays with energies of over 10 GIGA-electron-volts!
>>>> (Ten BILLION electron-volts!) These gamma rays are a billion years
>>>> old and have travelled as many miles; yet they're still powerful
>>>> enough to pass through and disrupt matter - and then some. Such
>>>> massive explosions, if local, would obliterate a portion of our
>>>> galaxy and could even turn radioactive dust into gold among other
>>>> elements.
>>
>>>> My question is this: How does the observable fact fit in with your
>>>> delusional vision of a peaceful, tranquil, ordered, smooth-running
>>>> universe, all chugging along peacefully under the auspices of a
>>>> Jewish sky-fairy?
>>
>>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>>>> Personalised Desktop Computers
>>> JFC!
>>> You're asking this of an idiot who believes the moon is 865.000
>>> miles from the earth and has developed a revolutionary new theory
>>> that the Sun is powered by Nitrogen (atomic weight of 7) being
>>> fusing INTO Helium (atomic weight of 2)
>>
>>> (I doubt if he's ever heard of a GRB)
>>
>> He has such a huge ego and is such a know-it-all that this question
>> shouldn't pose him with any sort of problem if his scientific
>> knowledge and perception were as meaningful and correct as he
>> imagines.
>>
>> His answer will be a good indicator of his status as an understander
>> of science and will give an indication to others of his grasp on
>> reality. His reticence to answer thusfar, of course, indicates that
>> he has no credibility or meaningful grasp upon reality. Failure to
>> answer will indicate that he is unable to answer in preference to
>> sweeping the matter under the carpet and avoiding the issue, in
>> addition to showing that he prefers to ignore facts that challenge
>> his faith.
>>
>> You seee Dimwit; like a lot of "Christians"; has been taught all the
>> supposed "facts" that are answerable from his theology: This amount
>> of knowledge is just a little beyond the average lay-person's
>> understanding of science, and would baffle or convince the average
>> joe-public. When something outside of his brainwashing appears in
>> challenge to his beliefs, however, he engages the primal "fight or
>> flight" scenario embedded into our ancestors by evolution and still
>> prevalent as a residual base response in humans as an "advanced"
>> species. (Even Dimwit has slightly greater capabilities than a
>> gardsen slug - Just.) Since his comprehensive responses are so
>> underdeveloped he will be unable to fathom out an answer from
>> engaging whatever excuse for an intellect is laft after his
>> processing by the fundy production-line, and as his brainwashing has
>> no pre-programmed answers at this level he will be at a loss.
>>
>> My guess is that, if he does answer, he will either attempt to
>> change the subject in an attempt to bring down the level of the
>> conversation to the highest level covered by his brainwashed-in
>> pre-programmed answers; or he will deflect attention completely from
>> the questions posed by challenging my personal integrity from his
>> biased Xian viewpoint.
>>
>> It will be interesting to note the outcome; though I have a feeling
>> he may well take the easiest route and totally ignore this post.
>>
>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Dimwit is the greatest example that an atheist could ever display of
> what Xtianity will do to a weak-minded gullible person

Dimwit's newsgroup is looking somewhat abandoned of late:-

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/dildodave/topics?hl=en


-- 
http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
Personalised Desktop Computers
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:36:33 +0100   author:   Dr.Hal0nf1r?$ lid

Re: Dimwit Didn't Answer...   
On Jun 14, 6:36 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> Ken wrote:
> > On Jun 13, 9:52 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> > <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> >> Ken wrote:
> >>> On Jun 12, 9:04 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> >>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> >>> ...Regarding this discussion:
>
> >>>> Dimwit let me ask you about something else before you answer, as
> >>>> I'm sure you're just about to do despite the delay: Have you ever
> >>>> heard of gamma-ray bursts? They're going off all the time at
> >>>> around a billion light years distance - So we're seeing them
> >>>> actually going off at around a billion years ago since light and
> >>>> gamma-rays travel at the same speed: Staggering isn't it;
> >>>> considering also that this fact rubbishes the claims of a
> >>>> 6000-year-old universe - But the main thrust of this point was the
> >>>> colossal energies involved: A nuclear explosion from a weapon here
> >>>> on earth produces a limited amount of gamma rays; with energies in
> >>>> the hundreds of thousands of electron-volts; but in the visible
> >>>> light that we see, that ranges between 2 to 4 electron-volts, such
> >>>> an incredibly bright explosion would barely be detectable from as
> >>>> nearby as the moon. In the gamma spectrum even you'd have
> >>>> difficulty detecting it from Jupiter; which is considerably less
> >>>> than half a light year away; but we're seeing gamma-ray bursts
> >>>> from a billion plus light years away - They must be colossal and
> >>>> unimaginably violent explosions- perhaps of the first stars,
> >>>> galaxy-cores, or sub-galaxies, to form after the Big Bang(?) We're
> >>>> recording gamma-rays with energies of over 10 GIGA-electron-volts!
> >>>> (Ten BILLION electron-volts!) These gamma rays are a billion years
> >>>> old and have travelled as many miles; yet they're still powerful
> >>>> enough to pass through and disrupt matter - and then some. Such
> >>>> massive explosions, if local, would obliterate a portion of our
> >>>> galaxy and could even turn radioactive dust into gold among other
> >>>> elements.
>
> >>>> My question is this: How does the observable fact fit in with your
> >>>> delusional vision of a peaceful, tranquil, ordered, smooth-running
> >>>> universe, all chugging along peacefully under the auspices of a
> >>>> Jewish sky-fairy?
>
> >>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> >>>> Personalised Desktop Computers
> >>> JFC!
> >>> You're asking this of an idiot who believes the moon is 865.000
> >>> miles from the earth and has developed a revolutionary new theory
> >>> that the Sun is powered by Nitrogen (atomic weight of 7) being
> >>> fusing INTO Helium (atomic weight of 2)
>
> >>> (I doubt if he's ever heard of a GRB)
>
> >> He has such a huge ego and is such a know-it-all that this question
> >> shouldn't pose him with any sort of problem if his scientific
> >> knowledge and perception were as meaningful and correct as he
> >> imagines.
>
> >> His answer will be a good indicator of his status as an understander
> >> of science and will give an indication to others of his grasp on
> >> reality. His reticence to answer thusfar, of course, indicates that
> >> he has no credibility or meaningful grasp upon reality. Failure to
> >> answer will indicate that he is unable to answer in preference to
> >> sweeping the matter under the carpet and avoiding the issue, in
> >> addition to showing that he prefers to ignore facts that challenge
> >> his faith.
>
> >> You seee Dimwit; like a lot of "Christians"; has been taught all the
> >> supposed "facts" that are answerable from his theology: This amount
> >> of knowledge is just a little beyond the average lay-person's
> >> understanding of science, and would baffle or convince the average
> >> joe-public. When something outside of his brainwashing appears in
> >> challenge to his beliefs, however, he engages the primal "fight or
> >> flight" scenario embedded into our ancestors by evolution and still
> >> prevalent as a residual base response in humans as an "advanced"
> >> species. (Even Dimwit has slightly greater capabilities than a
> >> gardsen slug - Just.) Since his comprehensive responses are so
> >> underdeveloped he will be unable to fathom out an answer from
> >> engaging whatever excuse for an intellect is laft after his
> >> processing by the fundy production-line, and as his brainwashing has
> >> no pre-programmed answers at this level he will be at a loss.
>
> >> My guess is that, if he does answer, he will either attempt to
> >> change the subject in an attempt to bring down the level of the
> >> conversation to the highest level covered by his brainwashed-in
> >> pre-programmed answers; or he will deflect attention completely from
> >> the questions posed by challenging my personal integrity from his
> >> biased Xian viewpoint.
>
> >> It will be interesting to note the outcome; though I have a feeling
> >> he may well take the easiest route and totally ignore this post.
>
> >> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> >> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Dimwit is the greatest example that an atheist could ever display of
> > what Xtianity will do to a weak-minded gullible person
>
> Dimwit's newsgroup is looking somewhat abandoned of late:-
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/dildodave/topics?hl=en
>
> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Never had my current address approved for posting
But, like you said, Dimwit hasn't changed a bit, other than getting
fatter and older, while sitting on his fanny trolling the internet
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:11:42 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Dimwit Didn't Answer...   
Ken wrote:
> On Jun 14, 6:36 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> Ken wrote:
>>> On Jun 13, 9:52 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Ken wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 12, 9:04 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>>>>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> ...Regarding this discussion:
>>
>>>>>> Dimwit let me ask you about something else before you answer, as
>>>>>> I'm sure you're just about to do despite the delay: Have you ever
>>>>>> heard of gamma-ray bursts? They're going off all the time at
>>>>>> around a billion light years distance - So we're seeing them
>>>>>> actually going off at around a billion years ago since light and
>>>>>> gamma-rays travel at the same speed: Staggering isn't it;
>>>>>> considering also that this fact rubbishes the claims of a
>>>>>> 6000-year-old universe - But the main thrust of this point was
>>>>>> the colossal energies involved: A nuclear explosion from a
>>>>>> weapon here on earth produces a limited amount of gamma rays;
>>>>>> with energies in the hundreds of thousands of electron-volts;
>>>>>> but in the visible light that we see, that ranges between 2 to 4
>>>>>> electron-volts, such an incredibly bright explosion would barely
>>>>>> be detectable from as nearby as the moon. In the gamma spectrum
>>>>>> even you'd have difficulty detecting it from Jupiter; which is
>>>>>> considerably less than half a light year away; but we're seeing
>>>>>> gamma-ray bursts from a billion plus light years away - They
>>>>>> must be colossal and unimaginably violent explosions- perhaps of
>>>>>> the first stars, galaxy-cores, or sub-galaxies, to form after
>>>>>> the Big Bang(?) We're recording gamma-rays with energies of over
>>>>>> 10 GIGA-electron-volts! (Ten BILLION electron-volts!) These
>>>>>> gamma rays are a billion years old and have travelled as many
>>>>>> miles; yet they're still powerful enough to pass through and
>>>>>> disrupt matter - and then some. Such massive explosions, if
>>>>>> local, would obliterate a portion of our galaxy and could even
>>>>>> turn radioactive dust into gold among other elements.
>>
>>>>>> My question is this: How does the observable fact fit in with
>>>>>> your delusional vision of a peaceful, tranquil, ordered,
>>>>>> smooth-running universe, all chugging along peacefully under the
>>>>>> auspices of a Jewish sky-fairy?
>>
>>>>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>>>>>> Personalised Desktop Computers
>>>>> JFC!
>>>>> You're asking this of an idiot who believes the moon is 865.000
>>>>> miles from the earth and has developed a revolutionary new theory
>>>>> that the Sun is powered by Nitrogen (atomic weight of 7) being
>>>>> fusing INTO Helium (atomic weight of 2)
>>
>>>>> (I doubt if he's ever heard of a GRB)
>>
>>>> He has such a huge ego and is such a know-it-all that this question
>>>> shouldn't pose him with any sort of problem if his scientific
>>>> knowledge and perception were as meaningful and correct as he
>>>> imagines.
>>
>>>> His answer will be a good indicator of his status as an
>>>> understander of science and will give an indication to others of
>>>> his grasp on reality. His reticence to answer thusfar, of course,
>>>> indicates that he has no credibility or meaningful grasp upon
>>>> reality. Failure to answer will indicate that he is unable to
>>>> answer in preference to sweeping the matter under the carpet and
>>>> avoiding the issue, in addition to showing that he prefers to
>>>> ignore facts that challenge his faith.
>>
>>>> You seee Dimwit; like a lot of "Christians"; has been taught all
>>>> the supposed "facts" that are answerable from his theology: This
>>>> amount of knowledge is just a little beyond the average
>>>> lay-person's understanding of science, and would baffle or
>>>> convince the average joe-public. When something outside of his
>>>> brainwashing appears in challenge to his beliefs, however, he
>>>> engages the primal "fight or flight" scenario embedded into our
>>>> ancestors by evolution and still prevalent as a residual base
>>>> response in humans as an "advanced" species. (Even Dimwit has
>>>> slightly greater capabilities than a gardsen slug - Just.) Since
>>>> his comprehensive responses are so underdeveloped he will be
>>>> unable to fathom out an answer from engaging whatever excuse for
>>>> an intellect is laft after his processing by the fundy
>>>> production-line, and as his brainwashing has no pre-programmed
>>>> answers at this level he will be at a loss.
>>
>>>> My guess is that, if he does answer, he will either attempt to
>>>> change the subject in an attempt to bring down the level of the
>>>> conversation to the highest level covered by his brainwashed-in
>>>> pre-programmed answers; or he will deflect attention completely
>>>> from the questions posed by challenging my personal integrity from
>>>> his biased Xian viewpoint.
>>
>>>> It will be interesting to note the outcome; though I have a feeling
>>>> he may well take the easiest route and totally ignore this post.
>>
>>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>>>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> Dimwit is the greatest example that an atheist could ever display of
>>> what Xtianity will do to a weak-minded gullible person
>>
>> Dimwit's newsgroup is looking somewhat abandoned of late:-
>>
>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/dildodave/topics?hl=en
>>
>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Never had my current address approved for posting
> But, like you said, Dimwit hasn't changed a bit, other than getting
> fatter and older, while sitting on his fanny trolling the internet

Try this:

http://groups.google.com/group/dildodave/subscribe?hl=en-GB

This sends a subscription request to the owner; who is Adrian I think (?) I 
just hope he still uses the registered email address. (Is he still around?)

If not I'll see if I can take control.

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date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:15:37 +0100   author:   Dr.Hal0nf1r?$ lid

Re: Dimwit Didn't Answer...   
On Jun 14, 3:15 pm, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> Ken wrote:
> > On Jun 14, 6:36 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> > <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> >> Ken wrote:
> >>> On Jun 13, 9:52 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> >>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> Ken wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 12, 9:04 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> >>>>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>> ...Regarding this discussion:
>
> >>>>>> Dimwit let me ask you about something else before you answer, as
> >>>>>> I'm sure you're just about to do despite the delay: Have you ever
> >>>>>> heard of gamma-ray bursts? They're going off all the time at
> >>>>>> around a billion light years distance - So we're seeing them
> >>>>>> actually going off at around a billion years ago since light and
> >>>>>> gamma-rays travel at the same speed: Staggering isn't it;
> >>>>>> considering also that this fact rubbishes the claims of a
> >>>>>> 6000-year-old universe - But the main thrust of this point was
> >>>>>> the colossal energies involved: A nuclear explosion from a
> >>>>>> weapon here on earth produces a limited amount of gamma rays;
> >>>>>> with energies in the hundreds of thousands of electron-volts;
> >>>>>> but in the visible light that we see, that ranges between 2 to 4
> >>>>>> electron-volts, such an incredibly bright explosion would barely
> >>>>>> be detectable from as nearby as the moon. In the gamma spectrum
> >>>>>> even you'd have difficulty detecting it from Jupiter; which is
> >>>>>> considerably less than half a light year away; but we're seeing
> >>>>>> gamma-ray bursts from a billion plus light years away - They
> >>>>>> must be colossal and unimaginably violent explosions- perhaps of
> >>>>>> the first stars, galaxy-cores, or sub-galaxies, to form after
> >>>>>> the Big Bang(?) We're recording gamma-rays with energies of over
> >>>>>> 10 GIGA-electron-volts! (Ten BILLION electron-volts!) These
> >>>>>> gamma rays are a billion years old and have travelled as many
> >>>>>> miles; yet they're still powerful enough to pass through and
> >>>>>> disrupt matter - and then some. Such massive explosions, if
> >>>>>> local, would obliterate a portion of our galaxy and could even
> >>>>>> turn radioactive dust into gold among other elements.
>
> >>>>>> My question is this: How does the observable fact fit in with
> >>>>>> your delusional vision of a peaceful, tranquil, ordered,
> >>>>>> smooth-running universe, all chugging along peacefully under the
> >>>>>> auspices of a Jewish sky-fairy?
>
> >>>>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> >>>>>> Personalised Desktop Computers
> >>>>> JFC!
> >>>>> You're asking this of an idiot who believes the moon is 865.000
> >>>>> miles from the earth and has developed a revolutionary new theory
> >>>>> that the Sun is powered by Nitrogen (atomic weight of 7) being
> >>>>> fusing INTO Helium (atomic weight of 2)
>
> >>>>> (I doubt if he's ever heard of a GRB)
>
> >>>> He has such a huge ego and is such a know-it-all that this question
> >>>> shouldn't pose him with any sort of problem if his scientific
> >>>> knowledge and perception were as meaningful and correct as he
> >>>> imagines.
>
> >>>> His answer will be a good indicator of his status as an
> >>>> understander of science and will give an indication to others of
> >>>> his grasp on reality. His reticence to answer thusfar, of course,
> >>>> indicates that he has no credibility or meaningful grasp upon
> >>>> reality. Failure to answer will indicate that he is unable to
> >>>> answer in preference to sweeping the matter under the carpet and
> >>>> avoiding the issue, in addition to showing that he prefers to
> >>>> ignore facts that challenge his faith.
>
> >>>> You seee Dimwit; like a lot of "Christians"; has been taught all
> >>>> the supposed "facts" that are answerable from his theology: This
> >>>> amount of knowledge is just a little beyond the average
> >>>> lay-person's understanding of science, and would baffle or
> >>>> convince the average joe-public. When something outside of his
> >>>> brainwashing appears in challenge to his beliefs, however, he
> >>>> engages the primal "fight or flight" scenario embedded into our
> >>>> ancestors by evolution and still prevalent as a residual base
> >>>> response in humans as an "advanced" species. (Even Dimwit has
> >>>> slightly greater capabilities than a gardsen slug - Just.) Since
> >>>> his comprehensive responses are so underdeveloped he will be
> >>>> unable to fathom out an answer from engaging whatever excuse for
> >>>> an intellect is laft after his processing by the fundy
> >>>> production-line, and as his brainwashing has no pre-programmed
> >>>> answers at this level he will be at a loss.
>
> >>>> My guess is that, if he does answer, he will either attempt to
> >>>> change the subject in an attempt to bring down the level of the
> >>>> conversation to the highest level covered by his brainwashed-in
> >>>> pre-programmed answers; or he will deflect attention completely
> >>>> from the questions posed by challenging my personal integrity from
> >>>> his biased Xian viewpoint.
>
> >>>> It will be interesting to note the outcome; though I have a feeling
> >>>> he may well take the easiest route and totally ignore this post.
>
> >>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> >>>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>> Dimwit is the greatest example that an atheist could ever display of
> >>> what Xtianity will do to a weak-minded gullible person
>
> >> Dimwit's newsgroup is looking somewhat abandoned of late:-
>
> >>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/dildodave/topics?hl=en
>
> >> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> >> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Never had my current address approved for posting
> > But, like you said, Dimwit hasn't changed a bit, other than getting
> > fatter and older, while sitting on his fanny trolling the internet
>
> Try this:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/dildodave/subscribe?hl=en-GB
>
> This sends a subscription request to the owner; who is Adrian I think (?) I
> just hope he still uses the registered email address. (Is he still around?> If not I'll see if I can take control.
>
> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That reminds me of a guote than may or may not have been attributed to
Groucho Marx.
As an avid golfer, he was asked why he never bother to join a Country
Club
His reply was something along the lines of:
"I would never join an organization that would allow someone like me
to become a member"

Groucho was one of the best
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:58 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Dimwit Didn't Answer...   
Ken wrote:
> On Jun 14, 3:15 pm, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> Ken wrote:
>>> On Jun 14, 6:36 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Ken wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 13, 9:52 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>>>>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Ken wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 12, 9:04 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>>>>>>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> ...Regarding this discussion:
>>
>>>>>>>> Dimwit let me ask you about something else before you answer,
>>>>>>>> as I'm sure you're just about to do despite the delay: Have
>>>>>>>> you ever heard of gamma-ray bursts? They're going off all the
>>>>>>>> time at around a billion light years distance - So we're
>>>>>>>> seeing them actually going off at around a billion years ago
>>>>>>>> since light and gamma-rays travel at the same speed:
>>>>>>>> Staggering isn't it; considering also that this fact rubbishes
>>>>>>>> the claims of a 6000-year-old universe - But the main thrust
>>>>>>>> of this point was the colossal energies involved: A nuclear
>>>>>>>> explosion from a weapon here on earth produces a limited
>>>>>>>> amount of gamma rays; with energies in the hundreds of
>>>>>>>> thousands of electron-volts; but in the visible light that we
>>>>>>>> see, that ranges between 2 to 4 electron-volts, such an
>>>>>>>> incredibly bright explosion would barely be detectable from as
>>>>>>>> nearby as the moon. In the gamma spectrum even you'd have
>>>>>>>> difficulty detecting it from Jupiter; which is considerably
>>>>>>>> less than half a light year away; but we're seeing gamma-ray
>>>>>>>> bursts from a billion plus light years away - They must be
>>>>>>>> colossal and unimaginably violent explosions- perhaps of the
>>>>>>>> first stars, galaxy-cores, or sub-galaxies, to form after the
>>>>>>>> Big Bang(?) We're recording gamma-rays with energies of over
>>>>>>>> 10 GIGA-electron-volts! (Ten BILLION electron-volts!) These
>>>>>>>> gamma rays are a billion years old and have travelled as many
>>>>>>>> miles; yet they're still powerful enough to pass through and
>>>>>>>> disrupt matter - and then some. Such massive explosions, if
>>>>>>>> local, would obliterate a portion of our galaxy and could even
>>>>>>>> turn radioactive dust into gold among other elements.
>>
>>>>>>>> My question is this: How does the observable fact fit in with
>>>>>>>> your delusional vision of a peaceful, tranquil, ordered,
>>>>>>>> smooth-running universe, all chugging along peacefully under
>>>>>>>> the auspices of a Jewish sky-fairy?
>>
>>>>>>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>>>>>>>> Personalised Desktop Computers
>>>>>>> JFC!
>>>>>>> You're asking this of an idiot who believes the moon is 865.000
>>>>>>> miles from the earth and has developed a revolutionary new
>>>>>>> theory that the Sun is powered by Nitrogen (atomic weight of 7)
>>>>>>> being fusing INTO Helium (atomic weight of 2)
>>
>>>>>>> (I doubt if he's ever heard of a GRB)
>>
>>>>>> He has such a huge ego and is such a know-it-all that this
>>>>>> question shouldn't pose him with any sort of problem if his
>>>>>> scientific knowledge and perception were as meaningful and
>>>>>> correct as he imagines.
>>
>>>>>> His answer will be a good indicator of his status as an
>>>>>> understander of science and will give an indication to others of
>>>>>> his grasp on reality. His reticence to answer thusfar, of course,
>>>>>> indicates that he has no credibility or meaningful grasp upon
>>>>>> reality. Failure to answer will indicate that he is unable to
>>>>>> answer in preference to sweeping the matter under the carpet and
>>>>>> avoiding the issue, in addition to showing that he prefers to
>>>>>> ignore facts that challenge his faith.
>>
>>>>>> You seee Dimwit; like a lot of "Christians"; has been taught all
>>>>>> the supposed "facts" that are answerable from his theology: This
>>>>>> amount of knowledge is just a little beyond the average
>>>>>> lay-person's understanding of science, and would baffle or
>>>>>> convince the average joe-public. When something outside of his
>>>>>> brainwashing appears in challenge to his beliefs, however, he
>>>>>> engages the primal "fight or flight" scenario embedded into our
>>>>>> ancestors by evolution and still prevalent as a residual base
>>>>>> response in humans as an "advanced" species. (Even Dimwit has
>>>>>> slightly greater capabilities than a gardsen slug - Just.) Since
>>>>>> his comprehensive responses are so underdeveloped he will be
>>>>>> unable to fathom out an answer from engaging whatever excuse for
>>>>>> an intellect is laft after his processing by the fundy
>>>>>> production-line, and as his brainwashing has no pre-programmed
>>>>>> answers at this level he will be at a loss.
>>
>>>>>> My guess is that, if he does answer, he will either attempt to
>>>>>> change the subject in an attempt to bring down the level of the
>>>>>> conversation to the highest level covered by his brainwashed-in
>>>>>> pre-programmed answers; or he will deflect attention completely
>>>>>> from the questions posed by challenging my personal integrity
>>>>>> from his biased Xian viewpoint.
>>
>>>>>> It will be interesting to note the outcome; though I have a
>>>>>> feeling he may well take the easiest route and totally ignore
>>>>>> this post.
>>
>>>>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>>>>>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>> Dimwit is the greatest example that an atheist could ever display
>>>>> of what Xtianity will do to a weak-minded gullible person
>>
>>>> Dimwit's newsgroup is looking somewhat abandoned of late:-
>>
>>>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/dildodave/topics?hl=en
>>
>>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>>>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> Never had my current address approved for posting
>>> But, like you said, Dimwit hasn't changed a bit, other than getting
>>> fatter and older, while sitting on his fanny trolling the internet
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/dildodave/subscribe?hl=en-GB
>>
>> This sends a subscription request to the owner; who is Adrian I
>> think (?) I just hope he still uses the registered email address.
>> (Is he still around?)
>>
>> If not I'll see if I can take control.
>>
>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> That reminds me of a guote than may or may not have been attributed to
> Groucho Marx.
> As an avid golfer, he was asked why he never bother to join a Country
> Club
> His reply was something along the lines of:
> "I would never join an organization that would allow someone like me
> to become a member"
>
> Groucho was one of the best

Agreed: But Skid and Stretch Marx are often quite unbeatable!

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