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date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:43:28 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
New York City cracks down on Taxi Drivers cussing at customers.   
Britian, pay attention.

A $1,000 fine can be levied against Taxi Cab drivers if they cuss at
thier paying customers.   How come Britian doesnt want civility by
upholding the Blasphemy Law ?  Is liberty more important than anything
else ?  Is having some self control and refraining from cussing an
infringement on entitlement ?
date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:43:28 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: DILV SPAM   
On May 15, 3:43 pm, A Fundy Fuckhead wrote: nothing worth reading
today, but yesterday he was caught LYING AGAIN

Why don''t you repeat your latest PHONY & DOCTORED QUOTE?
You know, the one from Albert Einstein where you ADDED "than a
creator" to the end of an actual
quote.

"The more a man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events
the firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the
side of this ordered regularity for causes of a different
nature" (added
by Dimwit) than a creator

Why do you feel it's OK to lie?
Is it because you feel that the ends justifies the means, no matter
how deceitful?
What's that thing about "bearing false witness"?

I probably should add what Albert said next, to avoid ANY confusion

"To be sure, the doctrine of a
personal God interfering with natural events could never be refuted,
in the real sense, by science, for this doctrine can always take
refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge has not yet
been able to set foot.
But I am persuaded that such behavior on the part of the
representatives of religion would not only be unworthy but also
fatal.
For a doctrine which is able to maintain itself not in clear light
but only in the dark, will of necessity lose its effect on mankind,
with
incalculable harm to human progress.
In their struggle for the ethical good, teachers of religion must have
the stature to give up the
doctrine of a personal God, that is, give up that source of fear and
hope which in the past placed such vast power in the hands of
priests"

http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/library/ae_scire.htm
date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:24:58 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: New York City cracks down on Taxi Drivers cussing at customers.   
IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
> Britian, pay attention.

Are you talking to me because I'm a Brit and named Ian?
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:45:10 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

Re: DILV SPAM   
Ken wrote:
> 
> Why don''t you repeat your latest PHONY & DOCTORED QUOTE?
> You know, the one from Albert Einstein where you ADDED "than a
> creator" to the end of an actual
> quote.
> 
> "The more a man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events
> the firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the
> side of this ordered regularity for causes of a different
> nature" (added
> by Dimwit) than a creator
> 
> Why do you feel it's OK to lie?

I'm not sure that he realises that he is lying when he first posts 
them - he, along with the others, just trawls them from creationist 
sites, which he believes implicitly.

What we see here is "institutional lying" from creationist groups. 
Dave became guilty of lying on a personal basis when he started 
re-posting quotes that we had already demonstrated were false.

For all his pontificating, he seems unconcerned about a level of 
personal dishonesty that I, as an atheist, would find totally 
unacceptable.

regards, Ian
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:55:06 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

Re: DILV SPAM   
On May 16, 12:55 am, Ian Smith 
wrote:
> Ken wrote:
>
> > Why don''t you repeat your latest PHONY & DOCTORED QUOTE?
> > You know, the one from Albert Einstein where you ADDED "than a
> > creator" to the end of an actual
> > quote.
>
> > "The more a man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events
> > the firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the
> > side of this ordered regularity for causes of a different
> > nature" (added
> > by Dimwit) than a creator
>
> > Why do you feel it's OK to lie?
>
> I'm not sure that he realises that he is lying when he first posts
> them - he, along with the others, just trawls them from creationist
> sites, which he believes implicitly.
>
> What we see here is "institutional lying" from creationist groups.
> Dave became guilty of lying on a personal basis when he started
> re-posting quotes that we had already demonstrated were false.
>
> For all his pontificating, he seems unconcerned about a level of
> personal dishonesty that I, as an atheist, would find totally
> unacceptable.
>
> regards, Ian

It's so much easier just to be honest

A person needs to be quite intelligent to be a successful liar.
One needs to remember who they lied to, what the lie was, why they
lied, and make sure not to accidentlly be honest later, otherwise when
confronted with the original lie, they'll need to lie their way out of
it.
Dimwit isn't nearly that smart and hears only what he wants, as
evidenced by this:
(Ya gotta wonder why he parrots such stupidity when it's so easily
exposed as fake?)

From: DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:24:59 -0500
 I guess George Washingtons prophecy was correct when he said in his
inaugural speech :
' If American ever decides to turn its back on God, she will come to
ruin ' .   When you toss aside necessary Foundations for morality and
honor to the Creator...then it becomes a springboard to anarchy and
the general populus doing what is 'right' in their own minds

George Washingtons prediction is coming true right before our eyes :"
If America ever turns its back on the Divine Creator, it shall come
to ruin"  (his Inagural Speech as first president).

FYI....GW's REAL inuagural speech
http://www.classbrain.com/artteenst/publish/article_38.shtml
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 07:06:54 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: New York City cracks down on Taxi Drivers cussing at customers.   
On May 16, 2:45 am, Ian Smith 
wrote:
> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Britian, pay attention.
>
> Are you talking to me because I'm a Brit and named Ian?

REPLY: Why...YES...yes I am as a matter of fact !
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:48:23 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: DILV SPAM   
Ken wrote:
> On May 16, 12:55 am, Ian Smith 
> wrote:
>> Ken wrote:
>>
>>> Why don''t you repeat your latest PHONY & DOCTORED QUOTE?
>>> You know, the one from Albert Einstein where you ADDED "than a
>>> creator" to the end of an actual
>>> quote.
>>> "The more a man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events
>>> the firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the
>>> side of this ordered regularity for causes of a different
>>> nature" (added
>>> by Dimwit) than a creator

All the more laughable in view of the following:

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product 
of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still 
primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No 
interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
(Albert Einstein, in a recently discovered letter, reported in the 
Guardian)

It must be depressing for the Xtians, knowing that almost everything 
they say will be overturned in a relatively short time-scale, if it 
hasn't been already.

If Dave is anything like an example, they are now reduced to a 
complete desperate shambles. the evangelical "push" we see (i.e. 
intelligent design etc) is no more than the death throes of a 
vanquished rabble in retreat.

regards, Ian
date: Sat, 17 May 2008 19:56:37 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

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