Last week the UK Parliament scrapped the law which made blasphemy a crime. 
It was last used in the 1960s, Whitehouse versus Gay News (it failed, though 
I doubt that meant the jury were convinced that Jesus was a bit AC/DC).

The last time a succesful case was brought was apparently in 1922.  There 
was an attempt recently over the TV programme 'Jerry Springer The Opera' - 
(actually it might have been the stage show), but no case was brought - 
presumably it was decided that it would be a waste of court time.

Almost every speaker in the debate wanted the law to remain, and not all of 
them were RC although Widdecombe et al were complaining that the wrong 
signal was being sent.  Funny thing that, nobody said that on the contrary 
the signal is the right one.

Perhaps the new initiative by Christian MPs 'who pray together' they say, 
trying to appropriate for Christianity things like being kind to children, 
is a response to that law change.

John Brockbank wrote:
> Last week the UK Parliament scrapped the law which made blasphemy a crime. 
> It was last used in the 1960s, Whitehouse versus Gay News (it failed, though 
> I doubt that meant the jury were convinced that Jesus was a bit AC/DC).
> 
> The last time a succesful case was brought was apparently in 1922.

Does the gay news guilty verdict (in 1977) not count then?

"1977: Gay paper guilty of blasphemy
The Gay News and its editor Denis Lemon have been found guilty of 
blasphemous libel in the first case of its kind for more than 50 years."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/11/newsid_2499000/2499721.stm

regards, Ian

In article <4828a280$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
 "John Brockbank"  wrote:

> Last week the UK Parliament scrapped the law which made blasphemy a crime. 
> It was last used in the 1960s, Whitehouse versus Gay News (it failed, though 
> I doubt that meant the jury were convinced that Jesus was a bit AC/DC).

1977 to be precise. And the verdict went against Gay News, with a savage 
9-month suspended sentence for the editor.

> The last time a succesful case was brought was apparently in 1922.  There 
> was an attempt recently over the TV programme 'Jerry Springer The Opera' - 
> (actually it might have been the stage show), but no case was brought - 
> presumably it was decided that it would be a waste of court time.
> 
> Almost every speaker in the debate wanted the law to remain, and not all of 
> them were RC although Widdecombe et al were complaining that the wrong 
> signal was being sent.  Funny thing that, nobody said that on the contrary 
> the signal is the right one.

RC has nothing to do with it. The purpose of the law was to defend the 
Church of England.

> Perhaps the new initiative by Christian MPs 'who pray together' they say, 
> trying to appropriate for Christianity things like being kind to children, 
> is a response to that law change. 

Oh, I've never heard of that. Care to elaborate?

On Mon, 12 May 2008 23:09:20 +0100, Alwyn  wrote:

>In article <4828a280$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
> "John Brockbank"  wrote:
>
>> Last week the UK Parliament scrapped the law which made blasphemy a crime. 
>> It was last used in the 1960s, Whitehouse versus Gay News (it failed, though 
>> I doubt that meant the jury were convinced that Jesus was a bit AC/DC).
>
>1977 to be precise. And the verdict went against Gay News, with a savage 
>9-month suspended sentence for the editor.

Strictly speaking it was for blasphemous libel, not blasphemy.

The magazine has published a poem about a gay Jesus. Which makes sense
if you consider that it would have been the ideal for a gay Christian.

On May 12, 3:03 pm, "John Brockbank"  wrote:
> Last week the UK Parliament scrapped the law which made blasphemy a crime.> It was last used in the 1960s, Whitehouse versus Gay News (it failed, though
> I doubt that meant the jury were convinced that Jesus was a bit AC/DC).
>
> The last time a succesful case was brought was apparently in 1922.  There
> was an attempt recently over the TV programme 'Jerry Springer The Opera' -> (actually it might have been the stage show), but no case was brought -
> presumably it was decided that it would be a waste of court time.
>
> Almost every speaker in the debate wanted the law to remain, and not all of
> them were RC although Widdecombe et al were complaining that the wrong
> signal was being sent.  Funny thing that, nobody said that on the contrary
> the signal is the right one.
>
> Perhaps the new initiative by Christian MPs 'who pray together' they say,
> trying to appropriate for Christianity things like being kind to children,> is a response to that law change.

REPLY:  I guess they didnt want to restrict the atheists entitlement
to talk anyway they wish (??)

In article ,
 Christopher A. Lee  wrote:

> On Mon, 12 May 2008 23:09:20 +0100, Alwyn  wrote:
> 
> >In article <4828a280$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
> > "John Brockbank"  wrote:
> >
> >> Last week the UK Parliament scrapped the law which made blasphemy a crime. 
> >> It was last used in the 1960s, Whitehouse versus Gay News (it failed, 
> >> though 
> >> I doubt that meant the jury were convinced that Jesus was a bit AC/DC).
> >
> >1977 to be precise. And the verdict went against Gay News, with a savage 
> >9-month suspended sentence for the editor.
> 
> Strictly speaking it was for blasphemous libel, not blasphemy.

Oh yes, blasphemous libel, my bad. But how can you libel somebody who's 
been dead for many centuries?

> The magazine has published a poem about a gay Jesus. Which makes sense
> if you consider that it would have been the ideal for a gay Christian.

The poem can be read here, and people can form their own opinions.
<http://www.petertatchell.net/religion/blasphemy.htm>

On May 12, 3:23 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> REPLY:  I guess they didnt want to restrict the atheists entitlement
> to talk anyway they wish (??)

Dimwit Dave had no morals, no sense of right and wrong, wasn't
able to control his homosexual urges, drank too much, did whatever
drugs he could get his hands on, then found that he desperately
needed some imaginary sky fairy
and it's accompanying punishment for "sinful behavior" to save
himself from himself,
Now he imagines that all others must be suffering from the
same deficiencies that he exhibited
Today we find that Dimwit somehow can't fathom that we're normal and
he's the fuckin' psycho-
nutsack!

Ken wrote:
> On May 12, 3:23 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  wrote:
>
>> REPLY: I guess they didnt want to restrict the atheists entitlement
>> to talk anyway they wish (??)
>
> Dimwit Dave had no morals, no sense of right and wrong, wasn't
> able to control his homosexual urges, drank too much, did whatever
> drugs he could get his hands on, then found that he desperately
> needed some imaginary sky fairy
> and it's accompanying punishment for "sinful behavior" to save
> himself from himself,
> Now he imagines that all others must be suffering from the
> same deficiencies that he exhibited
> Today we find that Dimwit somehow can't fathom that we're normal and
> he's the fuckin' psycho-
> nutsack!

It's sad really; this poor freak was so utterly antisocial because of his 
mental problems coupled with his severe antisocial personality disorder that 
he had to give himself over to the control-freaks to inhibit his 
dysfunctionalities: They fed his tiny uneducated mind on a diet of lies and 
fantasy and indoctrinated him with the fear of unimaginable eternal 
punishment until he started to act at least slightly similar to a normal 
human being - It served its purpose inasmuch as he's no longer an anarchaic 
sado-masochistic thug; but they didn't manage to remedy his severe mental 
illnesses: In fact they probably convinced him that their god had healed 
him; just like they did with a local fundy convert who went round preaching 
that his god had healed him of angina for a few months before dieing of a 
massive heart attack.

IMO it would have been better to have dug up the problem at the root and 
eradicated it; rather than shaving all but 2 of the branches off it and 
hanging an effigy of a dead man with a halo on it.

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"Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <femail@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
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> IMO it would have been better to have dug up the problem at the root and 
> eradicated it; rather than shaving all but 2 of the branches off it and 
> hanging an effigy of a dead man with a halo on it.


...thats a very good analogy .....!!


Mark

mark wrote:
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>
>
> "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <femail@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
> message news:GsednfApvZXTc7XVnZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>> IMO it would have been better to have dug up the problem at the root
>> and eradicated it; rather than shaving all but 2 of the branches off
>> it and hanging an effigy of a dead man with a halo on it.
>
>
> ...thats a very good analogy .....!!
>
>
Thank you.

It's not a case that is special to just Dimwit: Note the case of the local 
fundy mentioned above - People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by 
conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes the brain's 
endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like being totally in love 
with someone and sure that they are the one and that it'll last forever - a 
situation equally as fickle, plus they are so certain that they've at last 
found the ultimate that they believe totally in the transforming power of 
it.

These two effects together bring about a noticable change, albeit temporary, 
in a person's persona as witnessed by others. The person in question also 
feels like it has done them some good, and at the same time they're being 
buffeted by fundys telling them that it's all from their god: The poor sod 
has no option but to be totally convinced, and thus the final part of the 
initial brainwashing concludes successfully: Of course the person subtly 
over time returns to their old self unnoticed; but now they are under 
rweligious control, they've probably abandoned and alienated all their old 
friends in favour of their new "family", and they're caught hook, line, and 
sinker as they're told that backing out now that they have the "truth" will 
lead to alienation/shunning from the church and damnation to the eternal 
fires of Hell after death - IOW they're stuck; like it or not...

But their original problems; such as mental illness and personality 
disorders, whatever, still remain - noticably so too, now the the conversion 
euphoria has subsided. The mask is slipping and the person knows it, but the 
new convert feels that to admit it to anyone within the church would destroy 
all their cred - But eventually they are forced to consult a church elder; 
who tells them that maybe its due to their faith not being strong enough, or 
some other crap...

The mask is fitted but the face beneath is still exactly the same, although 
now regulated by a literally inescapable tight religious stranglehold on the 
person's life, speech, and on their every action and thought. The lopped 
branches are hidden and the effigy goes at least some way towards masking 
the fact that once a tree stood there from those not looking hard enough.

Another synthetic fake derived from natural materials falls off of the fundy 
production line into the collective and blends in insignificantly with the 
mllions of other identical clones - But strip away the surface layer on any 
of them and you'll find an individuality beneath: Individual dishonesty, 
insanity, hypocrisy, and every other negative trait: Everything positive has 
already been removed from them.

-------------------------------------------------------

Fundy Production Line:

Input: Incomplete or faulty human beings

Output: Brainwashed fundy clones

Waste products: Self-Image, positivity, personal pride, intellect...

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On May 13, 3:15 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> mark wrote:
> > X-No-Archive: yes
>
> > "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
> > messagenews:GsednfApvZXTc7XVnZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> >> IMO it would have been better to have dug up the problem at the root
> >> and eradicated it; rather than shaving all but 2 of the branches off
> >> it and hanging an effigy of a dead man with a halo on it.
>
> > ...thats a very good analogy .....!!
>
> Thank you.
>
> It's not a case that is special to just Dimwit: Note the case of the local> fundy mentioned above - People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by
> conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes the brain's
> endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like being totally in love
> with someone and sure that they are the one and that it'll last forever - a
> situation equally as fickle, plus they are so certain that they've at last> found the ultimate that they believe totally in the transforming power of
> it.
>
> These two effects together bring about a noticable change, albeit temporary,
> in a person's persona as witnessed by others. The person in question also
> feels like it has done them some good, and at the same time they're being
> buffeted by fundys telling them that it's all from their god: The poor sod> has no option but to be totally convinced, and thus the final part of the
> initial brainwashing concludes successfully: Of course the person subtly
> over time returns to their old self unnoticed; but now they are under
> rweligious control, they've probably abandoned and alienated all their old> friends in favour of their new "family", and they're caught hook, line, and
> sinker as they're told that backing out now that they have the "truth" will
> lead to alienation/shunning from the church and damnation to the eternal
> fires of Hell after death - IOW they're stuck; like it or not...
>
> But their original problems; such as mental illness and personality
> disorders, whatever, still remain - noticably so too, now the the conversion
> euphoria has subsided. The mask is slipping and the person knows it, but the
> new convert feels that to admit it to anyone within the church would destroy
> all their cred - But eventually they are forced to consult a church elder;> who tells them that maybe its due to their faith not being strong enough, or
> some other crap...
>
> The mask is fitted but the face beneath is still exactly the same, although
> now regulated by a literally inescapable tight religious stranglehold on the
> person's life, speech, and on their every action and thought. The lopped
> branches are hidden and the effigy goes at least some way towards masking
> the fact that once a tree stood there from those not looking hard enough.
>
> Another synthetic fake derived from natural materials falls off of the fundy
> production line into the collective and blends in insignificantly with the> mllions of other identical clones - But strip away the surface layer on any
> of them and you'll find an individuality beneath: Individual dishonesty,
> insanity, hypocrisy, and every other negative trait: Everything positive has
> already been removed from them.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Fundy Production Line:
>
> Input: Incomplete or faulty human beings
>
> Output: Brainwashed fundy clones
>
> Waste products: Self-Image, positivity, personal pride, intellect...
>
> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> Personalised Desktop Computers

Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
people.
Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it (I
even married one of them), and people who were so fucked up on drugs
they'd lie cheat, steal and lost every friend they ever knew

Dimwit shows the effects of both, being both a habitual liar and
hooked on the worst drug of them all.....religion.
With a bit of will power and some methadone, even heroin addicts can
be saved, but with a religious addiction, there is NO HOPE AT ALL.
They say crap like: "I don't have a problem, and even if I did, they
my Dog will save me"
Fuckin' idiots!

On 13 May, 17:06, Ken  wrote:
> On May 13, 3:15 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>
>
>
>
>
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> > mark wrote:
> > > X-No-Archive: yes
>
> > > "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in> > > messagenews:GsednfApvZXTc7XVnZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > >> IMO it would have been better to have dug up the problem at the root
> > >> and eradicated it; rather than shaving all but 2 of the branches off
> > >> it and hanging an effigy of a dead man with a halo on it.
>
> > > ...thats a very good analogy .....!!
>
> > Thank you.
>
> > It's not a case that is special to just Dimwit: Note the case of the local
> > fundy mentioned above - People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by
> > conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes the brain's
> > endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like being totally in love> > with someone and sure that they are the one and that it'll last forever - a
> > situation equally as fickle, plus they are so certain that they've at last
> > found the ultimate that they believe totally in the transforming power of
> > it.
>
> > These two effects together bring about a noticable change, albeit temporary,
> > in a person's persona as witnessed by others. The person in question also
> > feels like it has done them some good, and at the same time they're being
> > buffeted by fundys telling them that it's all from their god: The poor sod
> > has no option but to be totally convinced, and thus the final part of the
> > initial brainwashing concludes successfully: Of course the person subtly> > over time returns to their old self unnoticed; but now they are under
> > rweligious control, they've probably abandoned and alienated all their old
> > friends in favour of their new "family", and they're caught hook, line, and
> > sinker as they're told that backing out now that they have the "truth" will
> > lead to alienation/shunning from the church and damnation to the eternal> > fires of Hell after death - IOW they're stuck; like it or not...
>
> > But their original problems; such as mental illness and personality
> > disorders, whatever, still remain - noticably so too, now the the conversion
> > euphoria has subsided. The mask is slipping and the person knows it, but the
> > new convert feels that to admit it to anyone within the church would destroy
> > all their cred - But eventually they are forced to consult a church elder;
> > who tells them that maybe its due to their faith not being strong enough, or
> > some other crap...
>
> > The mask is fitted but the face beneath is still exactly the same, although
> > now regulated by a literally inescapable tight religious stranglehold on the
> > person's life, speech, and on their every action and thought. The lopped> > branches are hidden and the effigy goes at least some way towards masking
> > the fact that once a tree stood there from those not looking hard enough> > Another synthetic fake derived from natural materials falls off of the fundy
> > production line into the collective and blends in insignificantly with the
> > mllions of other identical clones - But strip away the surface layer on any
> > of them and you'll find an individuality beneath: Individual dishonesty,> > insanity, hypocrisy, and every other negative trait: Everything positive has
> > already been removed from them.
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Fundy Production Line:
>
> > Input: Incomplete or faulty human beings
>
> > Output: Brainwashed fundy clones
>
> > Waste products: Self-Image, positivity, personal pride, intellect...
>
> > --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> > Personalised Desktop Computers
>
> Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
> people.
> Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it (I
> even married one of them), and people who were so fucked up on drugs
> they'd lie cheat, steal and lost every friend they ever knew
>
> Dimwit shows the effects of both, being both a habitual liar and
> hooked on the worst drug of them all.....religion.
> With a bit of will power and some methadone, even heroin addicts can
> be saved, but with a religious addiction, there is NO HOPE AT ALL.
> They say crap like: "I don't have a problem, and even if I did, they
> my Dog will save me"
> Fuckin' idiots!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Just to let people know that the BT news server has a problem by the
looks of it; so it may not be possible for me to post via OE for a
while; and I try to avoid posting via Google if possible: I can read
news on free servers but can't find a free one as a tmporary measure
that lets me send. - Anyone got any ideas?

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"Dr Hal0nfire$"  wrote in message 
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On 13 May, 17:06, Ken  wrote:
> On May 13, 3:15 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>
>
>
>
>
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> > mark wrote:
> > > X-No-Archive: yes
>
> > > "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
> > > messagenews:GsednfApvZXTc7XVnZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > >> IMO it would have been better to have dug up the problem at the root
> > >> and eradicated it; rather than shaving all but 2 of the branches off
> > >> it and hanging an effigy of a dead man with a halo on it.
>
> > > ...thats a very good analogy .....!!
>
> > Thank you.
>
> > It's not a case that is special to just Dimwit: Note the case of the 
> > local
> > fundy mentioned above - People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated 
> > by
> > conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes the 
> > brain's
> > endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like being totally in love
> > with someone and sure that they are the one and that it'll last 
> > forever - a
> > situation equally as fickle, plus they are so certain that they've at 
> > last
> > found the ultimate that they believe totally in the transforming power 
> > of
> > it.
>
> > These two effects together bring about a noticable change, albeit 
> > temporary,
> > in a person's persona as witnessed by others. The person in question 
> > also
> > feels like it has done them some good, and at the same time they're 
> > being
> > buffeted by fundys telling them that it's all from their god: The poor 
> > sod
> > has no option but to be totally convinced, and thus the final part of 
> > the
> > initial brainwashing concludes successfully: Of course the person subtly
> > over time returns to their old self unnoticed; but now they are under
> > rweligious control, they've probably abandoned and alienated all their 
> > old
> > friends in favour of their new "family", and they're caught hook, line, 
> > and
> > sinker as they're told that backing out now that they have the "truth" 
> > will
> > lead to alienation/shunning from the church and damnation to the eternal
> > fires of Hell after death - IOW they're stuck; like it or not...
>
> > But their original problems; such as mental illness and personality
> > disorders, whatever, still remain - noticably so too, now the the 
> > conversion
> > euphoria has subsided. The mask is slipping and the person knows it, but 
> > the
> > new convert feels that to admit it to anyone within the church would 
> > destroy
> > all their cred - But eventually they are forced to consult a church 
> > elder;
> > who tells them that maybe its due to their faith not being strong 
> > enough, or
> > some other crap...
>
> > The mask is fitted but the face beneath is still exactly the same, 
> > although
> > now regulated by a literally inescapable tight religious stranglehold on 
> > the
> > person's life, speech, and on their every action and thought. The lopped
> > branches are hidden and the effigy goes at least some way towards 
> > masking
> > the fact that once a tree stood there from those not looking hard 
> > enough.
>
> > Another synthetic fake derived from natural materials falls off of the 
> > fundy
> > production line into the collective and blends in insignificantly with 
> > the
> > mllions of other identical clones - But strip away the surface layer on 
> > any
> > of them and you'll find an individuality beneath: Individual dishonesty,
> > insanity, hypocrisy, and every other negative trait: Everything positive 
> > has
> > already been removed from them.
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Fundy Production Line:
>
> > Input: Incomplete or faulty human beings
>
> > Output: Brainwashed fundy clones
>
> > Waste products: Self-Image, positivity, personal pride, intellect...
>
> > --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> > Personalised Desktop Computers
>
> Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
> people.
> Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it (I
> even married one of them), and people who were so fucked up on drugs
> they'd lie cheat, steal and lost every friend they ever knew
>
> Dimwit shows the effects of both, being both a habitual liar and
> hooked on the worst drug of them all.....religion.
> With a bit of will power and some methadone, even heroin addicts can
> be saved, but with a religious addiction, there is NO HOPE AT ALL.
> They say crap like: "I don't have a problem, and even if I did, they
> my Dog will save me"
> Fuckin' idiots!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Just to let people know that the BT news server has a problem by the
looks of it; so it may not be possible for me to post via OE for a
while; and I try to avoid posting via Google if possible: I can read
news on free servers but can't find a free one as a tmporary measure
that lets me send. - Anyone got any ideas?

Ignore that; it seems to be up and running again.

<  Oh, I've never heard of that. Care to elaborate? >

There is a group who call themselves 'Christians in Parliament'.  They
have a web site.  One of them is my MP, though I am not boasting about
it.

Ken  wrote:

> "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" wrote:

<snippage for brevity>

> > People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by
> > conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes the brain's
> > endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like being totally in love
> > with someone and sure that they are the one and that it'll last forever - a
> > situation equally as fickle, plus they are so certain that they've at last
> > found the ultimate that they believe totally in the transforming power of
> > it.

> Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
> people.
> Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it (I
> even married one of them),

Yep, I'm with ya bro. Though I didn't marry, I still cringe at the
memory of a certain relationship. Jeezus, she could talk some crap!
Friends would take me aside and ask if I was really sure about "that
woman". I'd respond by getting angry with them, even trashing
long-standing friendships. In my defence I can only plead "hormones".
(she was a stunner)

In moments of sober reflection though, I think I've gained an insight
into the workings of the religious mind. If the brain doesn't want to
see something, it won't. We seem to have an enormous capacity for
self-deception. No amount of reasoned, common-sense debate will
penetrate. Every problem can be rationalised away. Every objection must
have an ulterior motive. I know this because I've been there.

When I look at the likes of Dave I can sometimes catch a glimpse of
myself, back when I was besotted by Bullshit-Babe, and I ask "What would
it have taken to make me see reason back then?" The answer is
depressing.

Drugs, perhaps.
Electric shock therapy.
Abduction by a team of exit-councellors.
A bullet to the back of my skull...

(sigh)

She was cute, though.

-- 
Jon

On May 14, 2:14 am, jskin...@senet.com.au (Jon Skinner) wrote:
> Ken  wrote:
> > "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" wrote:
>
> <snippage for brevity>
>
> > > People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by
> > > conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes the brain's
> > > endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like being totally in love
> > > with someone and sure that they are the one and that it'll last forever - a
> > > situation equally as fickle, plus they are so certain that they've at last
> > > found the ultimate that they believe totally in the transforming power of
> > > it.
> > Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
> > people.
> > Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it (I
> > evenmarriedone of them),
>
> Yep, I'm with ya bro. Though I didn't marry, I still cringe at the
> memory of a certain relationship. Jeezus, she could talk some crap!
> Friends would take me aside and ask if I was really sure about "that
> woman". I'd respond by getting angry with them, even trashing
> long-standing friendships. In my defence I can only plead "hormones".
> (she was a stunner)
>
> In moments of sober reflection though, I think I've gained an insight
> into the workings of the religious mind. If the brain doesn't want to
> see something, it won't. We seem to have an enormous capacity for
> self-deception. No amount of reasoned, common-sense debate will
> penetrate. Every problem can be rationalised away. Every objection must
> have an ulterior motive. I know this because I've been there.
>
> When I look at the likes of Dave I can sometimes catch a glimpse of
> myself, back when I was besotted by Bullshit-Babe, and I ask "What would
> it have taken to make me see reason back then?" The answer is
> depressing.
>
> Drugs, perhaps.
> Electric shock therapy.
> Abduction by a team of exit-councellors.
> A bullet to the back of my skull...
>
> (sigh)
>
> She was cute, though.
>
> --
> Jon

Ummmm
Her name wasn't Lynn by chance?
Or Sharron?
Or Marcia?
Or Wendy?

Ken wrote:
> On May 14, 2:14 am, jskin...@senet.com.au (Jon Skinner) wrote:
>> Ken  wrote:
>>> "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" wrote:
>>
>> <snippage for brevity>
>>
>>>> People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by
>>>> conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes
>>>> the brain's endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like
>>>> being totally in love with someone and sure that they are the one
>>>> and that it'll last forever - a situation equally as fickle, plus
>>>> they are so certain that they've at last found the ultimate that
>>>> they believe totally in the transforming power of it.
>>> Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
>>> people.
>>> Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it (I
>>> evenmarriedone of them),
>>
>> Yep, I'm with ya bro. Though I didn't marry, I still cringe at the
>> memory of a certain relationship. Jeezus, she could talk some crap!
>> Friends would take me aside and ask if I was really sure about "that
>> woman". I'd respond by getting angry with them, even trashing
>> long-standing friendships. In my defence I can only plead "hormones".
>> (she was a stunner)
>>
>> In moments of sober reflection though, I think I've gained an insight
>> into the workings of the religious mind. If the brain doesn't want to
>> see something, it won't. We seem to have an enormous capacity for
>> self-deception. No amount of reasoned, common-sense debate will
>> penetrate. Every problem can be rationalised away. Every objection
>> must have an ulterior motive. I know this because I've been there.
>>
>> When I look at the likes of Dave I can sometimes catch a glimpse of
>> myself, back when I was besotted by Bullshit-Babe, and I ask "What
>> would it have taken to make me see reason back then?" The answer is
>> depressing.
>>
>> Drugs, perhaps.
>> Electric shock therapy.
>> Abduction by a team of exit-councellors.
>> A bullet to the back of my skull...
>>
>> (sigh)
>>
>> She was cute, though.
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>
> Ummmm
> Her name wasn't Lynn by chance?
> Or Sharron?
> Or Marcia?
> Or Wendy?

(I don't think he means *this* Sharron. (Me.) )

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On May 14, 9:44 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> Ken wrote:
> > On May 14, 2:14 am, jskin...@senet.com.au (Jon Skinner) wrote:
> >> Ken  wrote:
> >>> "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" wrote:
>
> >> <snippage for brevity>
>
> >>>> People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by
> >>>> conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes
> >>>> the brain's endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like
> >>>> being totally in love with someone and sure that they are the one
> >>>> and that it'll last forever - a situation equally as fickle, plus
> >>>> they are so certain that they've at last found the ultimate that
> >>>> they believe totally in the transforming power of it.
> >>> Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
> >>> people.
> >>> Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it (I
> >>> evenmarriedone of them),
>
> >> Yep, I'm with ya bro. Though I didn't marry, I still cringe at the
> >> memory of a certain relationship. Jeezus, she could talk some crap!
> >> Friends would take me aside and ask if I was really sure about "that
> >> woman". I'd respond by getting angry with them, even trashing
> >> long-standing friendships. In my defence I can only plead "hormones".
> >> (she was a stunner)
>
> >> In moments of sober reflection though, I think I've gained an insight
> >> into the workings of the religious mind. If the brain doesn't want to
> >> see something, it won't. We seem to have an enormous capacity for
> >> self-deception. No amount of reasoned, common-sense debate will
> >> penetrate. Every problem can be rationalised away. Every objection
> >> must have an ulterior motive. I know this because I've been there.
>
> >> When I look at the likes of Dave I can sometimes catch a glimpse of
> >> myself, back when I was besotted by Bullshit-Babe, and I ask "What
> >> would it have taken to make me see reason back then?" The answer is
> >> depressing.
>
> >> Drugs, perhaps.
> >> Electric shock therapy.
> >> Abduction by a team of exit-councellors.
> >> A bullet to the back of my skull...
>
> >> (sigh)
>
> >> She was cute, though.
>
> >> --
> >> Jon
>
> > Ummmm
> > Her name wasn't Lynn by chance?
> > Or Sharron?
> > Or Marcia?
> > Or Wendy?
>
> (I don't think he means *this* Sharron. (Me.) )
>
> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sorry----I spelled her name incorrectly
Sharon was the daughter of a Doctor, a spoiled rich leggy looker who I
nicknamed "The Coke Monster"
She eventually stole the Mercedes and traded it for some crack, but
the cops arrested two jungle bunnies driving it (with minimal damage)
a few days later
Never saw her again, fortunately for her!

Ken wrote:
> On May 14, 9:44 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> Ken wrote:
>>> On May 14, 2:14 am, jskin...@senet.com.au (Jon Skinner) wrote:
>>>> Ken  wrote:
>>>>> "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" wrote:
>>
>>>> <snippage for brevity>
>>
>>>>>> People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by
>>>>>> conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes
>>>>>> the brain's endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like
>>>>>> being totally in love with someone and sure that they are the one
>>>>>> and that it'll last forever - a situation equally as fickle, plus
>>>>>> they are so certain that they've at last found the ultimate that
>>>>>> they believe totally in the transforming power of it.
>>>>> Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
>>>>> people.
>>>>> Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it
>>>>> (I evenmarriedone of them),
>>
>>>> Yep, I'm with ya bro. Though I didn't marry, I still cringe at the
>>>> memory of a certain relationship. Jeezus, she could talk some crap!
>>>> Friends would take me aside and ask if I was really sure about
>>>> "that woman". I'd respond by getting angry with them, even trashing
>>>> long-standing friendships. In my defence I can only plead
>>>> "hormones". (she was a stunner)
>>
>>>> In moments of sober reflection though, I think I've gained an
>>>> insight into the workings of the religious mind. If the brain
>>>> doesn't want to see something, it won't. We seem to have an
>>>> enormous capacity for self-deception. No amount of reasoned,
>>>> common-sense debate will penetrate. Every problem can be
>>>> rationalised away. Every objection must have an ulterior motive. I
>>>> know this because I've been there.
>>
>>>> When I look at the likes of Dave I can sometimes catch a glimpse of
>>>> myself, back when I was besotted by Bullshit-Babe, and I ask "What
>>>> would it have taken to make me see reason back then?" The answer is
>>>> depressing.
>>
>>>> Drugs, perhaps.
>>>> Electric shock therapy.
>>>> Abduction by a team of exit-councellors.
>>>> A bullet to the back of my skull...
>>
>>>> (sigh)
>>
>>>> She was cute, though.
>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jon
>>
>>> Ummmm
>>> Her name wasn't Lynn by chance?
>>> Or Sharron?
>>> Or Marcia?
>>> Or Wendy?
>>
>> (I don't think he means *this* Sharron. (Me.) )
>>
>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry----I spelled her name incorrectly
> Sharon was the daughter of a Doctor, a spoiled rich leggy looker who I
> nicknamed "The Coke Monster"
> She eventually stole the Mercedes and traded it for some crack, but
> the cops arrested two jungle bunnies driving it (with minimal damage)
> a few days later
> Never saw her again, fortunately for her!

How do jungle-bunnies drive crack?

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"Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <femail@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
news:c7ydnRe2EejagLbVnZ2dnUVZ8sDinZ2d@bt.com...
> Ken wrote:
>> On May 14, 9:44 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>> Ken wrote:
>>>> On May 14, 2:14 am, jskin...@senet.com.au (Jon Skinner) wrote:
>>>>> Ken  wrote:
>>>>>> "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" wrote:
>>>
>>>>> <snippage for brevity>
>>>
>>>>>>> People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by
>>>>>>> conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which changes
>>>>>>> the brain's endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a bit like
>>>>>>> being totally in love with someone and sure that they are the one
>>>>>>> and that it'll last forever - a situation equally as fickle, plus
>>>>>>> they are so certain that they've at last found the ultimate that
>>>>>>> they believe totally in the transforming power of it.
>>>>>> Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
>>>>>> people.
>>>>>> Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it
>>>>>> (I evenmarriedone of them),
>>>
>>>>> Yep, I'm with ya bro. Though I didn't marry, I still cringe at the
>>>>> memory of a certain relationship. Jeezus, she could talk some crap!
>>>>> Friends would take me aside and ask if I was really sure about
>>>>> "that woman". I'd respond by getting angry with them, even trashing
>>>>> long-standing friendships. In my defence I can only plead
>>>>> "hormones". (she was a stunner)
>>>
>>>>> In moments of sober reflection though, I think I've gained an
>>>>> insight into the workings of the religious mind. If the brain
>>>>> doesn't want to see something, it won't. We seem to have an
>>>>> enormous capacity for self-deception. No amount of reasoned,
>>>>> common-sense debate will penetrate. Every problem can be
>>>>> rationalised away. Every objection must have an ulterior motive. I
>>>>> know this because I've been there.
>>>
>>>>> When I look at the likes of Dave I can sometimes catch a glimpse of
>>>>> myself, back when I was besotted by Bullshit-Babe, and I ask "What
>>>>> would it have taken to make me see reason back then?" The answer is
>>>>> depressing.
>>>
>>>>> Drugs, perhaps.
>>>>> Electric shock therapy.
>>>>> Abduction by a team of exit-councellors.
>>>>> A bullet to the back of my skull...
>>>
>>>>> (sigh)
>>>
>>>>> She was cute, though.
>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jon
>>>
>>>> Ummmm
>>>> Her name wasn't Lynn by chance?
>>>> Or Sharron?
>>>> Or Marcia?
>>>> Or Wendy?
>>>
>>> (I don't think he means *this* Sharron. (Me.) )
>>>
>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Sorry----I spelled her name incorrectly
>> Sharon was the daughter of a Doctor, a spoiled rich leggy looker who I
>> nicknamed "The Coke Monster"
>> She eventually stole the Mercedes and traded it for some crack, but
>> the cops arrested two jungle bunnies driving it (with minimal damage)
>> a few days later
>> Never saw her again, fortunately for her!
>
> How do jungle-bunnies drive crack?
>
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> Personalised Desktop Computers



With respect............. this is SO american as to be  not understandable 
outside of your continent(..IMHO)
Whay are you talking about...?????



Mark

mark wrote:
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>
>
> "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <femail@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
> message news:c7ydnRe2EejagLbVnZ2dnUVZ8sDinZ2d@bt.com...
>> Ken wrote:
>>> On May 14, 9:44 am, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
>>> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Ken wrote:
>>>>> On May 14, 2:14 am, jskin...@senet.com.au (Jon Skinner) wrote:
>>>>>> Ken  wrote:
>>>>>>> "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> <snippage for brevity>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> People are so cleverly and totally indoctrinated by
>>>>>>>> conversion that they feel a sense of both elation, which
>>>>>>>> changes the brain's endorphin level and gives a warm glow - a
>>>>>>>> bit like being totally in love with someone and sure that they
>>>>>>>> are the one and that it'll last forever - a situation equally
>>>>>>>> as fickle, plus they are so certain that they've at last found
>>>>>>>> the ultimate that they believe totally in the transforming
>>>>>>>> power of it.
>>>>>>> Over the last 40 or more years, I've known some really fucked up
>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>> Women that couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it
>>>>>>> (I evenmarriedone of them),
>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, I'm with ya bro. Though I didn't marry, I still cringe at
>>>>>> the memory of a certain relationship. Jeezus, she could talk
>>>>>> some crap! Friends would take me aside and ask if I was really
>>>>>> sure about "that woman". I'd respond by getting angry with them,
>>>>>> even trashing long-standing friendships. In my defence I can
>>>>>> only plead "hormones". (she was a stunner)
>>>>
>>>>>> In moments of sober reflection though, I think I've gained an
>>>>>> insight into the workings of the religious mind. If the brain
>>>>>> doesn't want to see something, it won't. We seem to have an
>>>>>> enormous capacity for self-deception. No amount of reasoned,
>>>>>> common-sense debate will penetrate. Every problem can be
>>>>>> rationalised away. Every objection must have an ulterior motive.
>>>>>> I know this because I've been there.
>>>>
>>>>>> When I look at the likes of Dave I can sometimes catch a glimpse
>>>>>> of myself, back when I was besotted by Bullshit-Babe, and I ask
>>>>>> "What would it have taken to make me see reason back then?" The
>>>>>> answer is depressing.
>>>>
>>>>>> Drugs, perhaps.
>>>>>> Electric shock therapy.
>>>>>> Abduction by a team of exit-councellors.
>>>>>> A bullet to the back of my skull...
>>>>
>>>>>> (sigh)
>>>>
>>>>>> She was cute, though.
>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>> Ummmm
>>>>> Her name wasn't Lynn by chance?
>>>>> Or Sharron?
>>>>> Or Marcia?
>>>>> Or Wendy?
>>>>
>>>> (I don't think he means *this* Sharron. (Me.) )
>>>>
>>>> --http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>>>> Personalised Desktop Computers- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> Sorry----I spelled her name incorrectly
>>> Sharon was the daughter of a Doctor, a spoiled rich leggy looker
>>> who I nicknamed "The Coke Monster"
>>> She eventually stole the Mercedes and traded it for some crack, but
>>> the cops arrested two jungle bunnies driving it (with minimal
>>> damage) a few days later
>>> Never saw her again, fortunately for her!
>>
>> How do jungle-bunnies drive crack?
>>
>> --
>> http://www.kustomkomputa.co.uk
>> Personalised Desktop Computers
>
>
>
> With respect............. this is SO american as to be  not
> understandable outside of your continent(..IMHO)
> Whay are you talking about...?????

Translation:

Sharon was a high-living doctor's daughter who'd seemingly had an 
overpriveliged childhood. She was a middle-class drug-addict with perfect 
legs and knockout good-looks. Ken nicknamed her "The Coke Monster". 
(Probably a parody of the Cookie Monster from Sesame Street.)

Eventually she stole Ken's Mercedes and sold it for crack cocaine. The 
police recovered the vehicle a few days later when they noticed it being 
driven by two "jungle bunnies". (Drug dealers?) It hadn't been damaged much.

Sharon and Ken never saw one another again; which was fortunate for Sharon.

- I think that's fairly accurate.

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"Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <femail@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
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> mark wrote:
>>

>> With respect............. this is SO american as to be  not
>> understandable outside of your continent(..IMHO)
>> Whay are you talking about...?????
>
> Translation:
>
> Sharon was a high-living doctor's daughter who'd seemingly had an 
> overpriveliged childhood. She was a middle-class drug-addict with perfect 
> legs and knockout good-looks. Ken nicknamed her "The Coke Monster". 
> (Probably a parody of the Cookie Monster from Sesame Street.)
>
> Eventually she stole Ken's Mercedes and sold it for crack cocaine. The 
> police recovered the vehicle a few days later when they noticed it being 
> driven by two "jungle bunnies". (Drug dealers?) It hadn't been damaged 
> much.
>
> Sharon and Ken never saw one another again; which was fortunate for 
> Sharon.
>
> - I think that's fairly accurate.



cheers.........  ;-0)


Mark

"John Brockbank"  wrote in message 
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> Last week the UK Parliament scrapped the law which made blasphemy a crime. 
> It was last used in the 1960s, Whitehouse versus Gay News (it failed, 
> though I doubt that meant the jury were convinced that Jesus was a bit 
> AC/DC).
>
> The last time a succesful case was brought was apparently in 1922.  There 
> was an attempt recently over the TV programme 'Jerry Springer The Opera' - 
> (actually it might have been the stage show), but no case was brought - 
> presumably it was decided that it would be a waste of court time.
>
> Almost every speaker in the debate wanted the law to remain, and not all 
> of them were RC although Widdecombe et al were complaining that the wrong 
> signal was being sent.  Funny thing that, nobody said that on the contrary 
> the signal is the right one.
>
> Perhaps the new initiative by Christian MPs 'who pray together' they say, 
> trying to appropriate for Christianity things like being kind to children, 
> is a response to that law change.



Now that the ancient religious nonsense of blasphemy has, at
long last, been removed from the statute book, is it too much
to hope that another such absurdity, the 'offence' of
consensual adult incest, will be given the boot too ?

Jim Hawkins