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date: Tue, 6 May 2008 16:12:12 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
Just HOW much faith does an alleged atheist have ??? Find out from a world-staunch atheist himself.   
Professor Francis Crick, awarded the Nobel Prize for the discovery of
DNA, wrote:

An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could
only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the
moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would
have had to have been satisfied to get it going.(2)

The trouble is that there are about two thousand enzymes, and the
chance of obtaining them all in a random trial is only one part in
(1020)2,000=10x40,000 th power, an outrageously small probability that
could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic
soup.(3)

In terms of complexity, an individual cell is nothing when compared
with a system like the mammalian brain.  The human brain consists of
about ten thousand million nerve cells.  Each nerve cell puts out
between ten thousand and one hundred thousand connecting fibers by
which it makes contact with other nerve cells in the brain.
Altogether the total number of connections in the human brain
approaches 10x15th power or a thousand million million.  Numbers in
the order of 10x15th are of course completely beyond comprehension.
Imagine an area about half the size of the USA (one million square
miles) covered in a forest of trees containing ten thousand trees per
square mile.  If each tree contained one hundred thousand leaves the
total number of leaves in the forest would be 10x15th, equivalent to
the number of connections in the human brain!  Despite the enormity of
the number of connections, the ramifying forest of fibers is not a
chaotic random tangle but a highly organized network in which a high
proportion of the fibers are unique adaptive communication channels
following their own specially ordained pathway through the brain.
Even if only one hundredth of the connections in the brain were
specifically organized, this would still represent a system containing
a much greater number of specific connections than in the entire
communications network on Earth.(4)

_______________________________________________________________________________

Footnote : Nevertheless, it must NEVER be admitted that special
Creation (the only other alternative) is logical.  Unless of course
you 'want to' be born an atheist and die an atheist.  If you are
visiting this NG and are considering Atheism as your Faith Religion,
put truth ahead of how you want to live your life. You wont ever
regret it.
date: Tue, 6 May 2008 16:12:12 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Same repetative DILV BS SPAM   
(0)
date: Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:56 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Same repetative DILV BS SPAM   
On May 6, 10:26 pm, Ken  wrote:
> (0)

REPLY:  What, no rebuttal to what a fellow atheist said ?!
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:35:43 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Just HOW much faith does an alleged atheist have ??? Find out from a world-staunch atheist himself.   
IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
> Professor Francis Crick, awarded the Nobel Prize for the discovery of
> DNA, wrote:
> 
> An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could
> only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the
> moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would
> have had to have been satisfied to get it going.(2)

There is no point in going any further, when we can see that this 
quote has been dishonestly edited to reverse its meaning. Let us 
complete the quote:

"...But this should not be taken to imply that there are good 
reasons to believe that it could not have started on the earth by a 
perfectly reasonable sequence of fairly ordinary chemical reactions. 
The plain fact is that the time available was too long, the many 
microenvironments on the earth's surface too diverse, the various 
chemical possibilities too numerous and our own knowledge and 
imagination too feeble to allow us to be able to unravel exactly how 
it might or might not have happened such a long time ago, especially 
as we have no experimental evidence from that era to check our ideas 
against."

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/part1-4.html

So, we can see that this is just more of the usual "Lying for 
Jesus". Beneath contempt, really - you'd thing that Dave would 
withdraw in sheer embarrassment when these lies are pointed out, but 
no - he just re-posts them a few weeks later.

regards, Ian
date: Wed, 07 May 2008 21:35:32 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

Re: Just HOW much faith does an alleged atheist have ??? (DILV----THE LIAR EXPOSED)   
On May 7, 1:35 pm, Ian Smith 
wrote:
> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Professor Francis Crick, awarded the Nobel Prize for the discovery of
> > DNA, wrote:
>
> > An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could
> > only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the
> > moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would
> > have had to have been satisfied to get it going.(2)
>
> There is no point in going any further, when we can see that this
> quote has been dishonestly edited to reverse its meaning. Let us
> complete the quote:
>
> "...But this should not be taken to imply that there are good
> reasons to believe that it could not have started on the earth by a
> perfectly reasonable sequence of fairly ordinary chemical reactions.
> The plain fact is that the time available was too long, the many
> microenvironments on the earth's surface too diverse, the various
> chemical possibilities too numerous and our own knowledge and
> imagination too feeble to allow us to be able to unravel exactly how
> it might or might not have happened such a long time ago, especially
> as we have no experimental evidence from that era to check our ideas
> against."
>
> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/part1-4.html
>
> So, we can see that this is just more of the usual "Lying for
> Jesus". Beneath contempt, really - you'd thing that Dave would
> withdraw in sheer embarrassment when these lies are pointed out, but
> no - he just re-posts them a few weeks later.
>
> regards, Ian

Why is why he's such an asshole and why he should be ignored
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:03:33 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

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