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date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:23:25 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
Science Disproves Evolution   
Expansion: Big Bang or Stretching? 6

Speeding Galaxies.  A similar observation can be made about tight
clusters of galaxies. Galaxies in clusters are traveling much faster
than they should, based on their distances from their clusters’
centers of mass.

Distant Galaxies.  Massive galaxies and galaxy clusters are now found
at such great distances that they must have formed soon after the
universe began. The big bang theory cannot explain how such galaxy
concentrations could have formed so quickly and so far away (9). The
stretching explanation says that galaxies and galaxy clusters began
before the heavens were stretched out, when all matter was relatively
confined.

Dwarf Galaxy. A vast hydrogen disk surrounds the dwarf galaxy, UGC
5288. This isolated galaxy, 16 million light-years from earth,
contains about 100,000 stars and is 1/25 the diameter of our Milky Way
Galaxy, which has at least 100,000,000,000 stars. The dwarf’s mass is
about 30 times too small to gravitationally hold onto the most distant
hydrogen gas, so gravity could not have pulled the distant hydrogen
gas into its disk. Because the gas is too evenly distributed and
rotates so smoothly, it was not expelled from the galaxy or pulled out
by a close encounter with another galaxy.

Hydrogen gas would have assumed this shape if space was once more
compact and later was stretched out. Before the stretching,
gravitational forces would have been much more powerful, thereby
producing this smooth rotational pattern. This would have occurred
recently, because the gaseous disk has not dispersed into the vacuum
of space.

9.	“The discovery of massive, evolved galaxies at much greater
distances than expected—and hence at earlier times in the history of
the Universe—is a challenge to our understanding of how galaxies
form.” Gregory D. Wirth, “Old Before Their Time,” Nature, Vol. 430, 8
July 2004, p. 149.

A. Cimatti et al., “Old Galaxies in the Young Universe,” Nature, Vol.
430, 8 July 2004, p.  184.

David Shiga, “Nursery Pictures,” Science News, Vol. 167, 5 March 2005,
pp. 148–149.

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ19.html
date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:23:25 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Creationism is BULLCRAP   
The only time creation and science should EVER be used in the
same sentence is when the words "is not" has been inserted between
them
date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:07:20 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Science Disproves Evolution   
On May 5, 12:23 pm, Pah...@gmail.com wrote:
> Expansion: Big Bang or Stretching? 6
>
> Speeding Galaxies.  A similar observation can be made about tight
> clusters of galaxies. Galaxies in clusters are traveling much faster
> than they should, based on their distances from their clusters’
> centers of mass.
>
> Distant Galaxies.  Massive galaxies and galaxy clusters are now found
> at such great distances that they must have formed soon after the
> universe began. The big bang theory cannot explain how such galaxy
> concentrations could have formed so quickly and so far away (9). The
> stretching explanation says that galaxies and galaxy clusters began
> before the heavens were stretched out, when all matter was relatively
> confined.
>
> Dwarf Galaxy. A vast hydrogen disk surrounds the dwarf galaxy, UGC
> 5288. This isolated galaxy, 16 million light-years from earth,
> contains about 100,000 stars and is 1/25 the diameter of our Milky Way
> Galaxy, which has at least 100,000,000,000 stars. The dwarf’s mass is
> about 30 times too small to gravitationally hold onto the most distant
> hydrogen gas, so gravity could not have pulled the distant hydrogen
> gas into its disk. Because the gas is too evenly distributed and
> rotates so smoothly, it was not expelled from the galaxy or pulled out
> by a close encounter with another galaxy.
>
> Hydrogen gas would have assumed this shape if space was once more
> compact and later was stretched out. Before the stretching,
> gravitational forces would have been much more powerful, thereby
> producing this smooth rotational pattern. This would have occurred
> recently, because the gaseous disk has not dispersed into the vacuum
> of space.
>
> 9.      “The discovery of massive, evolved galaxies at much greater
> distances than expected—and hence at earlier times in the history of
> the Universe—is a challenge to our understanding of how galaxies
> form.” Gregory D. Wirth, “Old Before Their Time,” Nature, Vol. 430, 8
> July 2004, p. 149.
>
> A. Cimatti et al., “Old Galaxies in the Young Universe,” Nature, Vol.
> 430, 8 July 2004, p.  184.
>
> David Shiga, “Nursery Pictures,” Science News, Vol. 167, 5 March 2005,> pp. 148–149.
>
> http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ19.html

REPLY:  Its not evidence that the atheist is looking for ;  its the
Will  to live as he/she likes with no outside interference. This is
the basis of the Atheist Faith.
date: Tue, 6 May 2008 04:44:16 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Creationism is BULLCRAP   
The only time creationism and science should EVER be used in the same
sentence is when the phrase "is not" has been inserted between them
date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:25:32 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

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