Three characteristics that suggest Jesus was a woman:

1. He had to feed a crowd, at a moment’s notice, when there was no
food (but no veggie option - so not conclusive). 

2. He kept trying to get the message across to a bunch of men who just
didn’t get it.

3. Even when he was dead, he had to get up because there was more work
for him to do.

On May 1, 4:27 pm, obser...@observer.invalid (Observer) wrote:
> Three characteristics that suggest Jesus was a woman:
>
> 1. He had to feed a crowd, at a moment’s notice, when there was no
> food (but no veggie option - so not conclusive).
>
> 2. He kept trying to get the message across to a bunch of men who just
> didn’t get it.
>
> 3. Even when he was dead, he had to get up because there was more work
> for him to do.

No Way Jose!
Jesus lives a few houses down the street from me.
He's into construction, and works harder than two of me
Has a wife and three kids still at home, while his fourth kid works at
Wallyworld and has a son already.

On May 1, 6:27 pm, obser...@observer.invalid (Observer) wrote:
>  wThree characteristics that suggest Jesus was a woman:
>
> 1. He had to feed a crowd, at a moment’s notice, when there was no
> food (but no veggie option - so not conclusive).
>
> 2. He kept trying to get the message across to a bunch of men who just
> didn’t get it.
>
> 3. Even when he was dead, he had to get up because there was more work
> for him to do.

REPLY:  How come youre not willing to find out who the real Jesus
is ?  How come Jesus Christ rubs you up the wrong way ?

"IlBeBauck@gmail.com"  wrote:

>REPLY:  How come youre not willing to find out who the real Jesus
>is ?  How come Jesus Christ rubs you up the wrong way ?

Where to start, I think we have been short changed. Some 2000 years
ago we were told Jesus will soon return, the last book of scripture
says it "must shortly come to pass" that "he cometh with clouds; and
every eye shall see him." We're still waiting.

Paul writes: "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a
shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and
the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and
remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds." Paul has
long since died. Still, no Jesus descending from heaven with a shout.

Then Jesus himself says: "After that tribulation, the sun shall be
darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of
heaven shall fall . . . And then shall they see the Son of man coming
in the clouds with great power and glory. . . . Verily I say unto you,
that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done."

Didn't Jesus know that the moon has no light of its own to give, it
merely reflects sunlight? Didn't he know stars are too massive to fall
to earth? If anything falls, it will be the earth, falling into a
star.

Anyway, the generation he was talking about has long since passed and
so have many others. No stars of heaven have fallen to earth. No Son
of man has come in the clouds. How long do we have to wait until we
accept Jesus and his Believers are wrong about his Second Coming?

On May 2, 2:11 pm, obser...@observer.invalid (Observer) wrote:
> "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> >REPLY:  How come youre not willing to find out who the real Jesus
> >is ?  How come Jesus Christ rubs you up the wrong way ?
>
> Where to start, I think we have been short changed. Some 2000 years
> ago we were told Jesus will soon return, the last book of scripture
> says it "must shortly come to pass" that "he cometh with clouds; and
> every eye shall see him." We're still waiting.
>
> Paul writes: "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a
>
> shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and
> the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and
> remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds." Paul has
> long since died. Still, no Jesus descending from heaven with a shout.
>
> Then Jesus himself says: "After that tribulation, the sun shall be
> darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of
> heaven shall fall . . . And then shall they see the Son of man coming
> in the clouds with great power and glory. . . . Verily I say unto you,
> that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done."
>
> Didn't Jesus know that the moon has no light of its own to give, it
> merely reflects sunlight? Didn't he know stars are too massive to fall
> to earth? If anything falls, it will be the earth, falling into a
> star.
>
> Anyway, the generation he was talking about has long since passed and
> so have many others. No stars of heaven have fallen to earth. No Son
> of man has come in the clouds. How long do we have to wait until we
> accept Jesus and his Believers are wrong about his Second Coming?

REPLY:  The Bible explicitly says that 'mockers (that be YOU) will
come saying where is this promised messiah'.   Are you under the
impression that the personal Theistic Creator is on your time schedule
and you are entitled to have an answer ?   Before discussing the
theology of Christs second coming...why not examine the proof of his
first coming including the historical proven ressurection from the
dead for instance ;  once you discover that Christ proved who he
claimed to be by this cornerstone event of Christianity, you will then
trust whatever he said has to be true. Mark it down...he said he is
coming again and, that he will be mankinds final judge.  Are you
WILLING to go looking for the evidence , or,  are you yet another
'atheist' with a prior philosophical bias that God must not be real so
you can have maximum lifestyle choice autonomy ?  WHere are you at
exactly ?

"IlBeBauck@gmail.com"  wrote:

>REPLY:  The Bible explicitly says that 'mockers (that be YOU) will
>come saying where is this promised messiah'. 

I'm not mocking anything. I am merely asking why the messiah has
failed to keep this promise.

>Before discussing the theology of Christs second coming...why
>not examine the proof of his first coming including the historical
>proven ressurection from the dead for instance

I would much prefer you explained the theology of Christ's second
coming but if you think it easier to combine into a single story the
scripture’s tales of Jesus’ resurrection that isn’t contrived,
convoluted and far-fetched please go ahead. 

Try, for example, listing the four resurrection stories side by side.
Or use The Jesus’ Resurrections appendix, which has the King James’
version of the four stories. Then see if you can make sense out of
what scripture says Mary Magdalene did early on the day of Jesus’
alleged resurrection. Here are some details that need to be
reconciled. While it is still dark Mary Magdalene, according to John,
goes to the tomb, finds the tombstone rolled away, and the tomb empty.
She runs to tell the disciples. Peter and Simon Peter return to the
tomb with her. Mary Magdalene stands outside the tomb. The disciples
leave. Then she meets Jesus, who doesn’t allow her to touch him.

At dawn Mary Magdalene goes to the tomb (again?) with some women, says
Matthew and Mark. Mark says the women wonder who shall roll the
tombstone away, but Mary Magdalene, according to John, already knows
that it’s rolled away. Matthew says the women witness an angel roll
back the tombstone, which was already rolled away when Mary Magdalene
visited earlier. Matthew also says Mary Magdalene leaves the tomb and
meets Jesus on the way. She touches his feet and worships him.

If you can devise what seems to you a reasonable story of what Mary
Magdalene did, you should keep going, adding other details of what
scripture says occurred on the day Jesus supposedly rose from the
dead. If you can construct a self-consistent resurrection story that
doesn’t omit any details from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John, then they
you will have succeeded where I, and many others, have failed.

Please feel free to sidestep these issues and continue on your merry
way.

Observer wrote:
> "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"  wrote:
>
>> REPLY:  The Bible explicitly says that 'mockers (that be YOU) will
>> come saying where is this promised messiah'.
>
> I'm not mocking anything. I am merely asking why the messiah has
> failed to keep this promise.
>
>> Before discussing the theology of Christs second coming...why
>> not examine the proof of his first coming including the historical
>> proven ressurection from the dead for instance
>
> I would much prefer you explained the theology of Christ's second
> coming but if you think it easier to combine into a single story the
> scripture's tales of Jesus' resurrection that isn't contrived,
> convoluted and far-fetched please go ahead.
>
> Try, for example, listing the four resurrection stories side by side.
> Or use The Jesus' Resurrections appendix, which has the King James'
> version of the four stories. Then see if you can make sense out of
> what scripture says Mary Magdalene did early on the day of Jesus'
> alleged resurrection. Here are some details that need to be
> reconciled. While it is still dark Mary Magdalene, according to John,
> goes to the tomb, finds the tombstone rolled away, and the tomb empty.
> She runs to tell the disciples. Peter and Simon Peter return to the
> tomb with her. Mary Magdalene stands outside the tomb. The disciples
> leave. Then she meets Jesus, who doesn't allow her to touch him.
>
> At dawn Mary Magdalene goes to the tomb (again?) with some women, says
> Matthew and Mark. Mark says the women wonder who shall roll the
> tombstone away, but Mary Magdalene, according to John, already knows
> that it's rolled away. Matthew says the women witness an angel roll
> back the tombstone, which was already rolled away when Mary Magdalene
> visited earlier. Matthew also says Mary Magdalene leaves the tomb and
> meets Jesus on the way. She touches his feet and worships him.
>
> If you can devise what seems to you a reasonable story of what Mary
> Magdalene did, you should keep going, adding other details of what
> scripture says occurred on the day Jesus supposedly rose from the
> dead. If you can construct a self-consistent resurrection story that
> doesn't omit any details from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John, then they
> you will have succeeded where I, and many others, have failed.
>
> Please feel free to sidestep these issues and continue on your merry
> way.

...Which he no doubt will...But just for the record I find it extremely 
disconcerting that the Son of the infinite and omnipresent being who was 
seemingly given a blueprint by his Father and made everything - Which is one 
interpretation of scripture; or possibly he helped his Father make it, 
whatever -  doesn't know that if all the stars were to fall to earth it 
would result, not only in the annihalation of the planet, but also in in a 
supermassive black hole and the end of this universe as we know it.

Was he the original cowboy builder perhaps?

(Although there is a theory that this universe is already inside a black 
hole in another dimension: However be that as it may; there is no way that 
any matter could retain its original form in the transition between this 
universe and a universe at a singularity at the centre of a supermassive 
black hole in this universe; if such is able to exist.

Also on another note: For all the stars to fall from the sky to earth in a 
period of less than several million or more years; most of them would have 
to travel at a velocity greater than the speed of light to reach earth in 
that time.)

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"Observer" <observer@observer.invalid> wrote in message 
news:481b6191.67779781@news.aioe.org...
> "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"  wrote:
>
>>REPLY:  How come youre not willing to find out who the real Jesus
>>is ?  How come Jesus Christ rubs you up the wrong way ?


> Where to start,

Oh dear..........

How about not starting at all.......??

Mark

On 2 May, 20:11, obser...@observer.invalid (Observer) wrote:
> "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> Didn't Jesus know that the moon has no light of its own to give, it
> merely reflects sunlight? Didn't he know stars are too massive to fall
> to earth? If anything falls, it will be the earth, falling into a
> star.

> Anyway, the generation he was talking about has long since passed and
> so have many others. No stars of heaven have fallen to earth. No Son
> of man has come in the clouds. How long do we have to wait until we
> accept Jesus and his Believers are wrong about his Second Coming?

That a man so hopelessly deluded and so painfully ignorant could be
dressed up as a god just shows how incredibly stupid and gullible his
followers are.

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