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date: Thu, 1 May 2008 02:33:22 +0100,    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
Red and Black   
An experiment for if you have time on your hands: Try this if you have OE: 
(You can probably do similar with other browsers.)

Find a post from Dimwit posting as IlBeBauck@gmail.com . Click on it, go to 
"Message" and select "Create Rule From Message". Click "Highlight it with 
color". Click "color" and click red.

Do the same with a post as DaveinLakeVilla@webtv.net .

Click "Tools", highlight "Message Rules", and select "News". Click "Apply 
Now", click "Select All", and browse to "uk.philosophy.atheism" in the 
"Apply to Folder" box.

Click "Apply Now": This will turn all of Dimwit's posts red. Expand all 
grouped messages by clicking on the + in the box at each thread:

You'll notice that the entire group turns around 50% red.

It appears that the DiLV "Do Not Respond" Initiative isn't kerbing the troll 
whatsoever.
date: Thu, 1 May 2008 02:33:22 +0100   author:   Dr.Hal0nf1r?$ lid

Re: Red and Black   
On Apr 30, 6:33 pm, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> An experiment for if you have time on your hands: Try this if you have OE:> (You can probably do similar with other browsers.)
>
> Find a post from Dimwit posting as IlBeBa...@gmail.com . Click on it, go to
> "Message" and select "Create Rule From Message". Click "Highlight it with
> color". Click "color" and click red.
>
> Do the same with a post as DaveinLakeVi...@webtv.net .
>
> Click "Tools", highlight "Message Rules", and select "News". Click "Apply
> Now", click "Select All", and browse to "uk.philosophy.atheism" in the
> "Apply to Folder" box.
>
> Click "Apply Now": This will turn all of Dimwit's posts red. Expand all
> grouped messages by clicking on the  in the box at each thread:
>
> You'll notice that the entire group turns around 50% red.
>
> It appears that the DiLV "Do Not Respond" Initiative isn't kerbing the troll
> whatsoever.

Almost no one else will reply to him in the other groups.
The two RV groups have label him a troll, so he's desperate to keep
attention focused on himself any way possible.
He's one sick in your face delusional POS motherfucker, and yet some
still attempt rational replies to his endless stream of Bull Crap
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:59:37 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Red and Black   
On Apr 30, 6:33 pm, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> An experiment for if you have time on your hands: Try this if you have OE:> (You can probably do similar with other browsers.)
>
> Find a post from Dimwit posting as IlBeBa...@gmail.com . Click on it, go to
> "Message" and select "Create Rule From Message". Click "Highlight it with
> color". Click "color" and click red.
>
> Do the same with a post as DaveinLakeVi...@webtv.net .
>
> Click "Tools", highlight "Message Rules", and select "News". Click "Apply
> Now", click "Select All", and browse to "uk.philosophy.atheism" in the
> "Apply to Folder" box.
>
> Click "Apply Now": This will turn all of Dimwit's posts red. Expand all
> grouped messages by clicking on the  in the box at each thread:
>
> You'll notice that the entire group turns around 50% red.
>
> It appears that the DiLV "Do Not Respond" Initiative isn't kerbing the troll
> whatsoever.
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:05:13 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Red and Black   
On Apr 30, 6:33 pm, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> An experiment for if you have time on your hands: Try this if you have OE:Gave it a go with a teranews account on OE but didn't get the desired
result, so I'll take your word for it, knowing it's completely factual
Anyway, Dimwit STILL is one sick assed delusional poorly educated mofo
with no wife, no kids, no friends, no future and, did I say No
Friends?
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:19:22 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Red and Black   
X-No-Archive: yes

"Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <femail@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
news:SpydnZPsfsR-gITVRVnyjgA@bt.com...

> An experiment for if you have time on your hands: Try this if you have OE: 
> (You can probably do similar with other browsers.)

> Find a post from Dimwit posting as IlBeBauck@gmail.com . Click on it, go 
> to "Message" and select "Create Rule From Message". Click "Highlight it 
> with color". Click "color" and click red.


> You'll notice that the entire group turns around 50% red.

> It appears that the DiLV "Do Not Respond" Initiative isn't kerbing the 
> troll whatsoever.

For the most part, most people are not engaging directly with dilv.  We've 
had comments posted in a 'third party' response which seems perfectly ok.
The key is, in my view, to not engage directly with him.  By all means post 
something about his posts but NEVER directly to him. AS we have all come to 
understand, it IS pointless trying to debate or enter into discussion with 
hime.
I'm enjoying looking at the endless, repetitive diatribe without the feeling 
of frustration.  His assertions seem all the more ridiculous as they are 
left hanging high and dry without discussion, about them,  to him.
No, thus far, I think it's working.......but I do see the amount of his 
responses attempting to goad people into response as *trollish* ....

Mark
date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:38:30 +0100   author:   mark

Re: Red and Black   
The message 
from "mark"  contains these words:

> The key is, in my view, to not engage directly with him.  By all means post 
> something about his posts but NEVER directly to him. AS we have all
> come > to  understand, it IS pointless trying to debate or enter into
> discussion with 
> him

Quite right!  The poor chap is an ignorant idiot who can only endlessly
regurgitate his fundie rubbish.   He cannot understand that atheism is
simply a failure to believe in his imaginary god and that there are no
ulterior motives.  He cannot grasp even the rudiments of evolution and
bases his belief on his ignorance.   His stupidity and rantings only
serve to make those who can be bothered to read them more likely to
become agnostics or atheists or to confirm such opinions if already
held.  The current explosion of his rubbish indicates that he is
becoming desperate for attention which we should continue to deny him.

-- 
********
David WG
********
date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:19:02 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: Red and Black: The DiLV Sermon   
David Wynne-Griffiths wrote:
> The message 
> from "mark"  contains these words:
>
>> The key is, in my view, to not engage directly with him.  By all
>> means post something about his posts but NEVER directly to him. AS
>> we have all
>> come > to  understand, it IS pointless trying to debate or enter into
>> discussion with
>> him
>
> Quite right!  The poor chap is an ignorant idiot who can only
> endlessly regurgitate his fundie rubbish.   He cannot understand that
> atheism is simply a failure to believe in his imaginary god and that
> there are no ulterior motives.  He cannot grasp even the rudiments of
> evolution and bases his belief on his ignorance.   His stupidity and
> rantings only serve to make those who can be bothered to read them
> more likely to become agnostics or atheists or to confirm such
> opinions if already held.  The current explosion of his rubbish
> indicates that he is becoming desperate for attention which we should
> continue to deny him.

Completely off the point; I was just envisioning Dimwit at church on Sunday: 
There he is; sitting on the end of the second row from the front: He's going 
to talk today.

I reckon he'd say something similar to the following in his sermon, knowing 
how honest and knowledgeable he is. I'm sorry it's so long; but this is the 
kind of crap you hear in fundy churches:


"Er hi: For those of you who don't know me I'm David."

A rumble of muttering and whispering breaks out. Someone in the back row 
calls out

"We all know you; your reputation precedes you."

Dimwit fumbles with his bible as he tries to regain his confidence: "Well I 
just come down from my luxury home that the LORD gave me with a paved 
driveway, more cars than I need, a huge bassy stereo, all my bills paid by 
the church too for my evangelising mission which I carry out in the name of 
de LAWD on the internet. The church bought me a brand new luxury sofa so 
that I could carry out my God-ordained ministry in a relaxed fashion. The 
LORD is so good to me because I tithe 25% of my income to this church: I 
hope y'all are doing the same; because if you aint seeing the bounteous 
blessings from God then it's because you're not tithing or not tithing 
enough: If you don't tithe than the church can't function; 'simple as that. 
I tithe 25% of my Social Security money each week; all $25 of it, and the 
LORD rewards me with all my bills paid."

He thought he heard someone saying "That's what our tithe is used for; to 
pay this halfwit's bills!"; but he put it down to the voice of Satan, as he 
knew that he had a massive group of loyal and devoted friends really.

He continued...

"So friends; today I'm going to give a little talk on my mission into 
Atheism. I've been posting in an Atheist newsgroup lately with the Word of 
Our Lord, and I've made good friends with some of the regulars who have 
taught me all about Atheism and what incredible faith one must have to be 
part of the religion of Atheism..

Now we know that all the worlds leading Atheists are really Creationists who 
deny the facts of our loving Creator so that they can live their hedonistic 
lifestyle in total freedom to do exactly as they please: We all know that 
evolutionists are utilised by the evil one to spin the lies of Satan; don't 
you agree? Say AMEN if you do!"

Several of the parishioners who were still awake mumbled the word amen.

"So as proof of that I didn't beat around the bush: As God's righthand man I 
boldly strode in there with the sword of the spirit held high and I stated 
the truth according to [my personal interpretation of] the Holy Bible, and 
y'know what they did? They insulted me and they tried character 
assasination. Why? Because they had no evidence whatsoever for their faith. 
They had no support for evolution, and their arguments; the Devil's lies; 
just crumbled in the face of the truth as presented in God's Holy Word The 
Bible. Halleluia! - But I carried on and I stated the truth again and again 
and again. They all came back with all the world's scientific mumbo-jumbo 
supposed facts; but their Atheism religion couldn't stand up to the truth of 
Jesus. Halleluia!

The audience start to wake up and all shout "Halleluia!"

"The Athieists still stick to their deception that rocks and dust created 
life from pond-scum though: And we know why don't we? It's because their 
minds are blinded by Satan: The Bible says that the world is in the power of 
the evil one until the day of God the Almighty. - But we have truth and 
light friends - Because we have the light of the true knowledge from the 
Bible; the Word of God: The words of our Holy Creator, bless His name: What 
more than that do we need? If it says it in the Bible then we can't doubt it 
because the words of the one who created everything and who cannot lie have 
uttered it. Amen!"

Someone shouts "Amen. Praise the Lord!", and everyone says "Yes! Maranatha!" 
as the open hands start to waive in the air.

"So fellow believers; the Word of God is alive and it's crushing and 
vanquishing the snares of Satan even on the internet. - The church see to my 
needs so that I can concentrate on my evangelical mission; sitting on my 
luxury sofa on my fat ass all day trolling Usenet. I have the spirit of the 
LORD within me and I know truth - But since we all know truth then we can 
tell the odd lie now and then when need be. If someone says something that 
we can't answer we just twist the truth a little to make it sound like we 
are right; but a better way of dealing with someone backing you into a 
corner is to change the subject or just refuse to answer and walk away.

We have to always look right as Christians because we're claiming to be on 
the side of righteousness. If you have a problem with any aspect of belief 
then just pray about it and commit it to belief by faith until the LORD sees 
fit to explain it to you in His own time...Because we have a knowledge 
greater than all the wise people of the world - We have the ultimate 
straight from the Creator in the Holy Bible: We are scientists: Holy 
scientists! Praise God. We don't need mankind's scientific theories because 
we already know the Biblical facts as presented to us in the Bible as laid 
down by psychotic schitzophrenic ancient iron-age social rejects, as people 
see them: The prophets and apostles and disciples as we know them to be; 
because we know that the voices are the holy words of the LORD!"

"I hear the LORD talking to me all the time. I hear him saying "Go therefore 
and make disciples of all the nations; teaching them and baptizing them in 
the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost!" Can you hear 
the Word of the Lord? Our God the ultimate scientist who made the sun 
convert millions of tons of nitrogen into helium every second so that we 
could have heat and light; who put the moon 750,000 miles from earth so that 
we could have tides, who breathed life into a handful of dust 6000 years 
ago, contrary to the established scientific facts and in the face of geology 
so that we could all live, who created and instituted 279 parameters 
necessary for the existance of life, and who, the same Bible written by 
those ancient schitzophrenics tells us, sent his Holy Son to die for us so 
that we could be saved from our personal responsibility and all live as 
fundy fuckwits - Praise his holy name. Halleluia."

At this point the hysteria has overcome the audience and someone stands up 
and starts babbling a stream of audible gibberish as hands sway in the air 
and people start calling "Jesus - Praise Him."

There's a loud cry of "Jesus....He's coming...Oh Jesus Christ - Yes!" 
Shortly after which a bow-legged altar-boy mingles back in with the 
congregation and the church leader with crumpled trousers takes to the 
pulpit in Dimwit's place.
date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:43:30 +0100   author:   Dr.Hal0nf1r?$ lid

Re: Red and Black   
Ken wrote:
> On Apr 30, 6:33 pm, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> An experiment for if you have time on your hands: Try this if you have OE:
> 
> Gave it a go with a teranews account on OE but didn't get the desired
> result, so I'll take your word for it, knowing it's completely factual
> Anyway, Dimwit STILL is one sick assed delusional poorly educated mofo
> with no wife, no kids, no friends, no future and, did I say No
> Friends?
> 

Not true - he has his imaginary friend!

regards, Ian
date: Thu, 01 May 2008 19:46:07 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

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