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date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:46:08 +0100,    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
Creationism   
How stupid do you have to be to think that the myth of the creation in
Genesis is anything more than a myth?   I think close to being
clinically insane but we seem to have such a person publishing his
infantile ideas in this newsgroup.
-- 
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David WG
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date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:46:08 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: Creationism   
On Apr 28, 1:46 pm, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:
> How stupid do you have to be to think that the myth of the creation in
> Genesis is anything more than a myth?   I think close to being
> clinically insane but we seem to have such a person publishing his
> infantile ideas in this newsgroup.
> --
> ********
> David WG
> ********

REPLY:  Its because your immense desire to not have anyone tell you
how to live so you can have maximum entitlement thru lifestyle choices
without moral culpability,  is so important to you, that,  youre
willing to pretend youre an 'atheist' (when youre not).
date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:18:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Creationism   
On Apr 28, 11:46 am, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:
> How stupid do you have to be to think that the myth of the creation in
> Genesis is anything more than a myth?   I think close to being
> clinically insane but we seem to have such a person publishing his
> infantile ideas in this newsgroup.
> --
> ********
> David WG
> ********

How stupid?

Dave stupid

That's how stupid!
date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:26:03 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Creationism   
The message

from Ken  contains these words:

> How stupid?

> Dave stupid

> That's how stupid!

And it is not possible to be more stupid than than that!

The idiot seems to think that we are atheists because we want to live
our lives free of the constraints that his beliefs impose on him.  I
suppose it is too difficult for him to grasp that we are atheists solely
because we do not believe in his imaginary god!

-- 
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David WG
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date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:45:30 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: Creationism   
"David Wynne-Griffiths"  wrote in message 
news:3130303031303439481699DA33@zetnet.co.uk...
> The message
> 
> from Ken  contains these words:
>
>> How stupid?
>
>> Dave stupid
>
>> That's how stupid!
>
> And it is not possible to be more stupid than than that!
>
> The idiot seems to think that we are atheists because we want to live
> our lives free of the constraints that his beliefs impose on him.  I
> suppose it is too difficult for him to grasp that we are atheists solely
> because we do not believe in his imaginary god!
>
> -- 
This seems rather appropriate, David:
http://tinyurl.com/694dd3

Graham
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:58:35 GMT   author:   graham

Re: Creationism   
"graham"  wrote in message 
news:v9wRj.100308$Cj7.38489@pd7urf2no...
>
> "David Wynne-Griffiths"  wrote in message 
> news:3130303031303439481699DA33@zetnet.co.uk...
>> The message
>> 
>> from Ken  contains these words:
>>
>>> How stupid?
>>
>>> Dave stupid
>>
>>> That's how stupid!
>>
>> And it is not possible to be more stupid than than that!
>>
>> The idiot seems to think that we are atheists because we want to live
>> our lives free of the constraints that his beliefs impose on him.  I
>> suppose it is too difficult for him to grasp that we are atheists solely
>> because we do not believe in his imaginary god!
>>
>> -- 
> This seems rather appropriate, David:
> http://tinyurl.com/694dd3
>
> Graham
>


Or this:

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/gordonhudsonnu/Sillypics/photo#5159736150297393762
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:00:18 +0100   author:   Gordon Hudson

Re: Creationism   
On Apr 28, 9:45 pm, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:
> The message
> 
> from Ken  contains these words:
>
> > How stupid?
> > Dave stupid
> > That's how stupid!
>
> And it is not possible to be more stupid than than that!
>
> The idiot seems to think that we are atheists because we want to live
> our lives free of the constraints that his beliefs impose on him.  I
> suppose it is too difficult for him to grasp that we are atheists solely
> because we do not believe in his imaginary god!
>
> --
> ********
> David WG
> ********

REPLY:  You want to live your life with max. entitlement toward
whatever lifestyle choices you make . And you dont want any
interference from anyone...especially an infinite moral personal
Creator.  This is what being an atheist is all about from a
philosophical standpoint ;  no one is really an atheist because no one
truly has the sort of FAITH that is required  ;  I know you do NOT
have the faith needed to really believe Nothing brought a personal/
intelligent Universe into being ...nor  a 206 bone human being with a
brain and personality traits coming from rocks/dirt/gas/and planets.
You may think you are that ludicrous, but i sure dont :)
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:53:12 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Creationism   
Faith is required to believe in gods in the total absence of any
credible evidence for their existence.   Not believing in gods requires
no faith whatsoever.  While we may not yet know the precise way in which
living forms on earth first emerged an imaginary creator does not
provide an answer.   We do however, know that far from everything being
created it evolved over many millions of years.   That some people have
been unable to progress beyond a Stone Age myth or grasp the elements of
the evolutionary process is very sad.
-- 
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David WG
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date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:44:07 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: Creationism   
On Apr 29, 11:44 am, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:
> Faith is required to believe in gods in the total absence of any
> credible evidence for their existence.   Not believing in gods requires
> no faith whatsoever.  While we may not yet know the precise way in which> living forms on earth first emerged an imaginary creator does not
> provide an answer.   We do however, know that far from everything being
> created it evolved over many millions of years.   That some people have
> been unable to progress beyond a Stone Age myth or grasp the elements of
> the evolutionary process is very sad.
> --
> ********
> David WG
> ********

You don't actually believe that anything you're said has sunk thru a
certain idiot's thick skull?

Caution: Arguing with a moron may cause your head to explode
Sandy
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:31:26 -0700 (PDT)   author:   sandi

Re: Creationism   
The message

from sandi  contains these words:

> You don't actually believe that anything you're said has sunk thru a
> certain idiot's thick skull?

Unlikely as it suffers from invincible ignorance!

-- 
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David WG
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date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:30:09 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: Creationism   
"sandi"  a écrit dans le message de news: 
bb5f9e35-c114-4b55-8e0d-d386436b30af@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 29, 11:44 am, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:
>> Faith is required to believe in gods in the total absence of any
>> credible evidence for their existence. Not believing in gods requires
>> no faith whatsoever. While we may not yet know the precise way in which
>> living forms on earth first emerged an imaginary creator does not
>> provide an answer. We do however, know that far from everything being
>> created it evolved over many millions of years. That some people have
>> been unable to progress beyond a Stone Age myth or grasp the elements of
>> the evolutionary process is very sad.
>> --
>> ********
>> David WG
>> ********

>You don't actually believe that anything you're said has sunk thru a
>certain idiot's thick skull?

Well, even it it does it'll only encounter the skull on the other side after 
bouncing around an empty space for a while. Sometimes I wonder whether there 
isn't an element of mental illness involved with certain people, whose 
fundamentalism is on the lunatic fringe of insanity.

Sad case.

pga
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:32:20 +0200   author:   PG

Re: Creationism   
The message <fv974v$sfg$1@aioe.org>
from "PG"  contains these words:

> Sometimes I wonder whether there  isn't an element 
> of mental illness involved with certain people, whose 
> fundamentalism is on the lunatic fringe of insanity.

"Once we can look at religion objectively and impartially, it becomes
entirely obvious that religion has all the characteristics of a form of
insanity. To one degree or another the religious mind must accept, and
believe in, another world; a supernatural or unnatural world, a world
filled with all sorts of imaginary beings called gods, devils, angels,
saints, demons, etc. These imaginary creatures are talked to, asked for
favors, guidance, "signs", or miracles, and then blamed or thanked for
natural events that follow. Except for the cloak of religion, such
beliefs and actions would otherwise cause an individual to be judged
insane, and committed to an institution for treatment." -Emmet F. Fields
-- 
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David WG
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date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:34:32 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: Creationism   
On Apr 30, 1:34 am, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:
> The message <fv974v$sf...@aioe.org>
> from "PG"  contains these words:
>
> > Sometimes I wonder whether there  isn't an element
> > of mental illness involved with certain people, whose
> > fundamentalism is on the lunatic fringe of insanity.
>
> "Once we can look at religion objectively and impartially, it becomes
> entirely obvious that religion has all the characteristics of a form of
> insanity. To one degree or another the religious mind must accept, and
> believe in, another world; a supernatural or unnatural world, a world
> filled with all sorts of imaginary beings called gods, devils, angels,
> saints, demons, etc. These imaginary creatures are talked to, asked for
> favors, guidance, "signs", or miracles, and then blamed or thanked for
> natural events that follow. Except for the cloak of religion, such
> beliefs and actions would otherwise cause an individual to be judged
> insane, and committed to an institution for treatment." -Emmet F. Fields
> --
> ********
> David WG
> ********

Sure you've seen this B4:Compulsive Delusionary Behaviour

   "A very strong case can be made that many of the steadfastly-
    religiously-convinced are actually mentally ill. The pleasant
    escape from reality that they so often indulge in is no
    more than the escape psychotics experience when they seek
    refuge from reality in a delusional dreamworld of imaginary
beliefs."


(DSM III-R is the official catalogue of mental illness by the
American
Psychiatric Association)

They, (prime examples being Lenny, Hammond, Dimwit and now the Pahu78
creatioNUT) also suffer from OCB's. They keep repeating this same
behavior over and over again, regardless of being shown the utter
ridiculousness and irrationality of their beliefs
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:24:41 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Creationism   
The message

from Ken  contains these words:

> They, (prime examples being Lenny, Hammond, Dimwit and now the Pahu78
> creatioNUT) also suffer from OCB's. They keep repeating this same
> behavior over and over again, regardless of being shown the utter
> ridiculousness and irrationality of their beliefs

Creationists are either unbelievably stupid or mentally deficient.

-- 
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David WG
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date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:47:18 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: Creationism   
> Creationists are either unbelievably stupid or mentally deficient.

Or both!
-- 
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David WG
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date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:46:18 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

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