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date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:24:53 +0100,    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
creationism   
The creation myth in Genesis is common to the three Abrahamic religions.
 It was an attempt to explain the unknown to people emerging from the
stone age without any knowledge of biology or cosmology.   Only the
exceptionally naive could conceivably believe that man was made from
dust and women from a rib.   Only the ignorant or exceptionally stupid
could fail to realise that it is just a myth.  Yet we have them here!

-- 
********
David WG
********
date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:24:53 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: creationism   
On Apr 28, 1:24 pm, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:
> The creation myth in Genesis is common to the three Abrahamic religions.
>  It was an attempt to explain the unknown to people emerging from the
> stone age without any knowledge of biology or cosmology.   Only the
> exceptionally naive could conceivably believe that man was made from
> dust and women from a rib.   Only the ignorant or exceptionally stupid
> could fail to realise that it is just a myth.  Yet we have them here!
>
> --
> ********
> David WG
> ********

REPLY:

Tthe bottom line from a famous NASA "agnostic" Astronomer (and my
favourite) ----

" For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason,
the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak and as he pulls
himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of Theologians
who
have been sitting there for centuries reading Genesis 1:1  : In the
Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth" --- Prof. Robert
Jastrow founder of Nasa's Goddard Institute. (from his book, 'God and
the
Astronomers. page 116)

.
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:56:07 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: creationism   
The message 
from "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"  contains these words:

> " For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason,
> the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
> ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak and as he pulls
> himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of Theologians
> who  have been sitting there for centuries reading Genesis 1:1  
> In the  Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth" 

It is what is called irony but the idiot was not be able to recognise
its subtlety.

-- 
********
David WG
********
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:03:59 +0100   author:   David Wynne-Griffiths

Re: creationism   
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:03:59 +0100, David Wynne-Griffiths
 wrote:

>The message 
>from "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"  contains these words:
>
>> " For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason,
>> the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
>> ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak and as he pulls
>> himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of Theologians
>> who  have been sitting there for centuries reading Genesis 1:1  
>> In the  Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth" 
>
>It is what is called irony but the idiot was not be able to recognise
>its subtlety.

There's a long and unflattering tradition of this for Christians -
going all the way back to Paul not seeing Epimenides' paradox for what
it is, and saying "All Cretans are liars. I know this because one of
them said so".
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:37:50 -0400   author:   Christopher A. Lee

Re: creationism   
On Apr 29, 9:03 am, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:
> The message 
> from "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  contains these words:
>
> > " For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason,
> > the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
> > ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak and as he pulls
> > himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of Theologians
> > who  have been sitting there for centuries reading Genesis 1:1  
> > In the  Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth"
>
> It is what is called irony but the idiot was not be able to recognise
> its subtlety.
>
> --
> ********
> David WG
> ********

REPLY:  Since you believe that Nothing brought our intelligent/
personal Universe into existence , can u tell us how 'Nothing'
accomplished that ?  thanks so much.
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:26:14 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: creationism   
On Apr 29, 9:37 am, Christopher A. Lee  wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:03:59 퍝, David Wynne-Griffiths
>
>  wrote:
> >The message 
> >from "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  contains these words:
>
> >> " For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason,
> >> the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
> >> ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak and as he pulls
> >> himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of Theologians
> >> who  have been sitting there for centuries reading Genesis 1:1  
> >> In the  Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth"
>
> >It is what is called irony but the idiot was not be able to recognise
> >its subtlety.
>
> There's a long and unflattering tradition of this for Christians -
> going all the way back to Paul not seeing Epimenides' paradox for what
> it is, and saying "All Cretans are liars. I know this because one of
> them said so".

REPLY:  Well., i reckon its a good thing that you as an atheist
believe in relative truth !
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:29:52 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: creationism   
On Apr 28, 11:24 am, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:
> The creation myth in Genesis is common to the three Abrahamic religions.
>  It was an attempt to explain the unknown to people emerging from the
> stone age without any knowledge of biology or cosmology.   Only the
> exceptionally naive could conceivably believe that man was made from
> dust and women from a rib.   Only the ignorant or exceptionally stupid
> could fail to realise that it is just a myth.  Yet we have them here!
>
> --
> ********
> David WG
> ********

Ignorant AND exceptionally stupid!
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:18:16 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

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