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date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:30:56 -0500,    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
This documentary was very well prepared ... extremely fair and
accurately presented on both sides of the Darwinnian Evolution (pond
scum to human being) and Intelligent Design controversy.  It showed just
how biggotted science discovery  has become in addition to a table
interview with Dawkins where he (uncoerced)  offers his REAL inner
conclusion that there IS some kind of intelligence  for first life ,
only it doesnt exist on earth but was delivered to earth from advanced
space aliens.  This remarkable admission shows that even the staunchist
of 'atheists'  know deep inside that intelligent design exists and cant
come from simple materials thru naturalism (IE: personality traits
coming from rocks/dirt/gas/planets)  ;  you just have to be patient with
atheists like Dawkins until they are ready to finally admit it (which is
proof that miracles occur !).  All the back peddling cannot change his
willful admission proving that there is no such thing as 'an atheist' !.  

The way scientific inquiry is supposed to take place is,  to go
whereEVER the evidence leads whether it be natural causes or intelligent
causes ;  and not to automatically rule out consideration of intelligent
causes due to philosophical bias . And it can be very easily shown that
intelligent design/engineering exists for our Universe/Earth/Human
Beings  without ever opening up the Bible , so that eliminates the
pop-mantra that "its religious".   The movie clearly showed by
interviewing top atheist-darwinianists  that they come to the table with
an apriori-philosophical bias toward ANY sort of intelligent causes /
design   because they simply dont want intelligent causes (implying a
Creator ) to exist.   As to why this is so, that too can be defined even
though the Movie didnt get into the issue very deeply :

1. God CANT exist because 'I" want the freedom to call my own shots in
life.

2. God CANT exist because 'I'  desire maximum entitlement for my life.

3. God CANT exist because 'I' dont want to be ultimately morally
culpable to him sometime in the future.


See the movie and let it jolt your Pride.  And maybe like Dawkins, you
too will desire to admit the obvious .

Dave.
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:30:56 -0500   author:   (Dave in Lake Villa)

Re: I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> This documentary was very well prepared ... extremely fair and
> accurately presented on both sides of the Darwinnian Evolution (pond
> scum to human being) and Intelligent Design controversy.
> 
> 
> See the movie and let it jolt your Pride.  And maybe like Dawkins, you
> too will desire to admit the obvious .

Yawn.

http://www.expelledexposed.com/

regards, Ian
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:17:12 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

Re: I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
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"Dave in Lake Villa"  wrote in message 
news:22046-4814B850-718@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
> This documentary was very well prepared ... extremely fair and
> accurately presented on both sides of the Darwinnian Evolution

Dawkins actual response to this rubbish..

http://richarddawkins.net/articleComments,2394,Lying-for-Jesus,Richard-Dawkins,page80



Mark
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:27:32 +0100   author:   mark

Re: I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
On Apr 27, 1:17 pm, Ian Smith 
wrote:
> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>end
> > This documentary was very well prepared ... extremely fair and
> > accurately presented on both sides of the Darwinnian Evolution (pond
> > scum to human being) and Intelligent Design controversy.
>
> > See the movie and let it jolt your Pride.  And maybe like Dawkins, you> > too will desire to admit the obvious .
>
> Yawn.
>
> http://www.expelledexposed.com/
>
> regards, Ian

REPLY:  Awww come on Ian....youre not going to follow a Guru who says
hes an atheist yet really believes life can only come by
Intelligence , then offers up a Back-Peddle story to bail himself
out  !?
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:27:37 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
On Apr 27, 1:27 pm, "mark"  wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> "Dave in Lake Villa"  wrote in messagenews:22046-4814B850-718@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net.
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:28:38 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
On Apr 27, 1:27 pm, "mark"  wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> "Dave in Lake Villa"  wrote in messagenews:22046-4814B850-718@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
>
> > This documentary was very well prepared ... extremely fair and
> > accurately presented on both sides of the Darwinnian Evolution
>
> Dawkins actual response to this rubbish..
>
> http://richarddawkins.net/articleComments,2394,Lying-for-Jesus,Richar...
>
> Mark

REPLY:  See the movie Marky ;  Dawkins is pulling the wool over your
eyes (again).  Hes a Creationist afterall !!!
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:29:37 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
X-No-Archive: yes

 wrote in message 
news:7b8eef7a-c536-4f71-98ff-c59e1576f15e@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 1:27 pm, "mark"  wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> "Dave in Lake Villa"  wrote in 
> messagenews:22046-4814B850-718@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
>
> > This documentary was very well prepared ... extremely fair and
> > accurately presented on both sides of the Darwinnian Evolution
>
> Dawkins actual response to this rubbish..
>
> http://richarddawkins.net/articleComments,2394,Lying-for-Jesus,Richar...
>
> Mark

REPLY:  See the movie Marky ;  Dawkins is pulling the wool over your
eyes (again).  Hes a Creationist afterall !!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/28/religion.film

http://blog.dave.org.uk/2008/03/expelled-no-intelligence-allow.html

http://richarddawkins.net/article,2389,Discussion-on-PZ-Myers-being-expelled-from-Expelled,Richard-Dawkins-PZ-Myers



Mark
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:36:24 +0100   author:   mark

Re: I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
"Dave in Lake Villa"  wrote

> See the movie and let it jolt your Pride.  And maybe like Dawkins, you
> too will desire to admit the obvious .

Yes, I'm with Dawkins.
"Anyone who thinks that has any bearing whatsoever on the truth or falsity 
of Darwin's theory of evolution is either an unreasoning fool or a cynical 
manipulator of unreasoning fools."

Steve M
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:43:45 +0100   author:   Steve Marshall

Re: I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
"Ian Smith"  wrote in message 
news:VMednVyiqeu0XonVRVnytAA@plusnet...
> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>> This documentary was very well prepared ... extremely fair and
>> accurately presented on both sides of the Darwinnian Evolution (pond
>> scum to human being) and Intelligent Design controversy.
>>
>>
>> See the movie and let it jolt your Pride.  And maybe like Dawkins, you
>> too will desire to admit the obvious .
>
> Yawn.
>
> http://www.expelledexposed.com/
>
> regards, Ian

The best news is that I hear that it's tanking at the theaters. I hope they 
used Ben Stein's money.  :-)

Ozzie
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:47:54 -0400   author:   TJOzzie

Re: I saw the Movie : 'Expelled' last night. A real masterpiece !   
IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 27, 1:17 pm, Ian Smith 
> wrote:
>> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>> end
>>> This documentary was very well prepared ... extremely fair and
>>> accurately presented on both sides of the Darwinnian Evolution (pond
>>> scum to human being) and Intelligent Design controversy.
>>> See the movie and let it jolt your Pride.  And maybe like Dawkins, you
>>> too will desire to admit the obvious .
>> Yawn.
>>
>> http://www.expelledexposed.com/
>>
>> regards, Ian
> 
> REPLY:  Awww come on Ian....youre not going to follow a Guru who says
> hes an atheist yet really believes life can only come by
> Intelligence , then offers up a Back-Peddle story to bail himself
> out  !?

http://richarddawkins.net/article,2394,Lying-for-Jesus,Richard-Dawkins
date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:50:01 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

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