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date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:47:20 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
Science Disproves Evolution   
Expansion: Big Bang or Stretching? 1

The stretching explanation, proposed here, has similarities and
differences with the big bang theory (1). Both the big bang and
stretching explanations describe a very rapid expansion of the
universe, beginning soon after time began, when not all laws of
physics applied. As one big bang authority states:

“In its standard form, the big bang theory maintains that the universe
was born about 15 billion years ago from a cosmological singularity—a
state in which the temperature and density are infinitely high. Of
course, one cannot really speak in physical terms about these
quantities as being infinite. One usually assumes that the current
laws of physics did not apply [during the big bang’s rapid
expansion]. ... ONE MAY WONDER, WHAT CAME BEFORE? IF SPACE-TIME DID
NOT EXIST THEN, HOW COULD EVERYTHING APPEAR FROM NOTHING? WHAT AROSE
FIRST: THE UNIVERSE OR THE LAWS DETERMINING ITS EVOLUTION? EXPLAINING
THIS INITIAL SINGULARITY—WHERE AND WHEN IT ALL BEGAN—STILL REMAINS THE
MOST INTRACTABLE PROBLEM OF MODERN COSMOLOGY (2).” [emphasis added]

The stretching explanation, in contrast to the standard big bang
theory, does not begin at a singularity, an infinitesimal point (3).
Nor does energy expended in stretching out the heavens come from
within the universe or during its first trillionth of a trillionth of
a ten-billionth of a second (10^34 second) or less, as with the big
bang theory. Energy flowed into the universe as the stretching
progressed. According to the big bang theory, stars, galaxies, and
black holes began forming after hundreds of millions of years.
According to the stretching explanation, these bodies were formed (or
began) near the beginning of time—during the creation week. Because
matter and starlight occupy space, they were also stretched. You can
decide which explanation the following surprising evidence supports.

1.	The analogy of “stretching out heaven like a tent curtain” (Ps
104:2 and Is 40:22) suggests that the heavens existed in a smaller,
denser, finite form before the stretching began. The evidence cited in
this section titled “Stellar Velocities,” “Speeding Galaxies,” “Dwarf
Galaxies,” “Strings of Galaxies,” “Star Streams,” “Colliding
Galaxies,” and “Helium-2 Nebulas” implies a finite universe before
stretching began.

2.	Andrei Linde, “The Self-Reproducing Inflationary Universe,”
Scientific American, Vol. 271, November 1994, p. 48.

3.	“According to inflationary cosmology, the universe [began] growing
from a patch as small as 10-26 m, one hundred billion times smaller
than a proton, ...” Alan H. Guth and David I. Kaiser, “Inflationary
Cosmology: Exploring the Universe from the Smallest to the Largest
Scales,” Science, Vol. 307, 11 February 2005, p. 885.

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ19.html
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:47:20 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Science Disproves Evolution   
Pahu78@gmail.com wrote:

> ONE MAY WONDER, WHAT CAME BEFORE? IF SPACE-TIME DID
> NOT EXIST THEN, HOW COULD EVERYTHING APPEAR FROM NOTHING? WHAT AROSE
> FIRST: THE UNIVERSE OR THE LAWS DETERMINING ITS EVOLUTION? EXPLAINING
> THIS INITIAL SINGULARITY—WHERE AND WHEN IT ALL BEGAN—STILL REMAINS THE
> MOST INTRACTABLE PROBLEM OF MODERN COSMOLOGY (2).”

Err, so lets think...

What is most credible:
- a previous universe that suffered a big crunch into a singularity 
and then exploded into another universe, or
- a giant magic sky fairy

Not a difficult one, that, is it?

regards, Ian
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:58:08 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

Re: Creationism is Bullcrap   
The only time creationism and science should EVER be used in the
same sentence is when the words "is not" has been inserted between
them
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:21:00 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

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