Reposted from talk.origins.
I just thought it might entertain any fundie visitors{;-)
Graham

Europe embraces Evolution
Ursula Siebert

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/50453

Ursula Siebert, originally a German teacher & lecturer turned
businesswoman, lived in different European countries before coming to
the USA. She is now a free-lance writer.


January 28, 2008

Europe has embraced Evolution. I always knew that but it was nice to
have it confirmed lately when I stumbled across an old issues of the
Skeptical Inquirer No-Dec 07. The Council of Europe´s Parliamentary
Assembly approved a resolution stating:

"1.The aim of this resolution is not to question or to fight a belief
- the right to freedom of belief does not permit that. The aim is to
warn against certain tendencies to pass off a belief as science. It is
necessary to separate belief from science. It is not a matter of
antagonism. Science and belief must be able to coexist. It is not a
matter of opposing belief and science, but it is necessary to prevent
belief from opposing science.

2. For some people the Creation, as a matter of religious belief,
gives a meaning to life. Nevertheless, the Parliamentary Assembly is
worried about the possible ill-effects of the spread of creationist
ideas within our education systems and about the consequences for our
democracies. If we are not careful, creationism could become a threat
to human rights, which are a key concern of the Council of Europe.

3. Creationism, born of the denial of the evolution of species through
natural selection, was for a long time an almost exclusively American
phenomenon. Today creationist ideas are tending to find their way into
Europe and their spread is affecting quite a few Council of Europe
member states."

"7. There is a real risk of serious confusion being introduced into
our children´s minds between what has to do with convictions, beliefs,
ideals of all sorts and what has to do with science. An "all things
are equal" attitude may seem appealing and tolerant, but is in fact
dangerous."

"15. The teaching of all phenomena concerning evolution as a
fundamental scientific theory is therefore crucial to the future of
our societies and our democracies. For that reason it must occupy a
central position in the curriculums, and especially in the science
syllabuses, as long as, like any other theory, it is able to stand up
to thorough scientific scrutiny."

On Jan 29, 10:58 am, "graham"  wrote:
> Reposted from talk.origins.
> I just thought it might entertain any fundie visitors{;-)
> Graham
>
> Europe embraces Evolution
> Ursula Siebert
>
> http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/50453
>
> Ursula Siebert, originally a German teacher & lecturer turned
> businesswoman, lived in different European countries before coming to
> the USA. She is now a free-lance writer.
>
> January 28, 2008
>
> Europe has embraced Evolution. I always knew that but it was nice to
> have it confirmed lately when I stumbled across an old issues of the
> Skeptical Inquirer No-Dec 07. The Council of Europe´s Parliamentary
> Assembly approved a resolution stating:
>
> "1.The aim of this resolution is not to question or to fight a belief
> - the right to freedom of belief does not permit that. The aim is to
> warn against certain tendencies to pass off a belief as science. It is
> necessary to separate belief from science. It is not a matter of
> antagonism. Science and belief must be able to coexist. It is not a
> matter of opposing belief and science, but it is necessary to prevent
> belief from opposing science.
>
> 2. For some people the Creation, as a matter of religious belief,
> gives a meaning to life. Nevertheless, the Parliamentary Assembly is
> worried about the possible ill-effects of the spread of creationist
> ideas within our education systems and about the consequences for our
> democracies. If we are not careful, creationism could become a threat
> to human rights, which are a key concern of the Council of Europe.
>
> 3. Creationism, born of the denial of the evolution of species through
> natural selection, was for a long time an almost exclusively American
> phenomenon. Today creationist ideas are tending to find their way into
> Europe and their spread is affecting quite a few Council of Europe
> member states."
>
> "7. There is a real risk of serious confusion being introduced into
> our children´s minds between what has to do with convictions, beliefs,
> ideals of all sorts and what has to do with science. An "all things
> are equal" attitude may seem appealing and tolerant, but is in fact
> dangerous."
>
> "15. The teaching of all phenomena concerning evolution as a
> fundamental scientific theory is therefore crucial to the future of
> our societies and our democracies. For that reason it must occupy a
> central position in the curriculums, and especially in the science
> syllabuses, as long as, like any other theory, it is able to stand up
> to thorough scientific scrutiny."

That's because you don't have a shit load of poorly educated in-bred
brainwashed oafs over there..K

On Jan 29, 1:22 pm, Ken  wrote:
> On Jan 29, 10:58 am, "graham"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Reposted from talk.origins.
> > I just thought it might entertain any fundie visitors{;-)
> > Graham
>
> > Europe embraces Evolution
> > Ursula Siebert
>
> >http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/50453
>
> > Ursula Siebert, originally a German teacher & lecturer turned
> > businesswoman, lived in different European countries before coming to
> > the USA. She is now a free-lance writer.
>
> > January 28, 2008
>
> > Europe has embraced Evolution. I always knew that but it was nice to
> > have it confirmed lately when I stumbled across an old issues of the
> > Skeptical Inquirer No-Dec 07. The Council of Europe´s Parliamentary
> > Assembly approved a resolution stating:
>
> > "1.The aim of this resolution is not to question or to fight a belief
> > - the right to freedom of belief does not permit that. The aim is to
> > warn against certain tendencies to pass off a belief as science. It is
> > necessary to separate belief from science. It is not a matter of
> > antagonism. Science and belief must be able to coexist. It is not a
> > matter of opposing belief and science, but it is necessary to prevent
> > belief from opposing science.
>
> > 2. For some people the Creation, as a matter of religious belief,
> > gives a meaning to life. Nevertheless, the Parliamentary Assembly is
> > worried about the possible ill-effects of the spread of creationist
> > ideas within our education systems and about the consequences for our
> > democracies. If we are not careful, creationism could become a threat
> > to human rights, which are a key concern of the Council of Europe.
>
> > 3. Creationism, born of the denial of the evolution of species through
> > natural selection, was for a long time an almost exclusively American
> > phenomenon. Today creationist ideas are tending to find their way into
> > Europe and their spread is affecting quite a few Council of Europe
> > member states."
>
> > "7. There is a real risk of serious confusion being introduced into
> > our children´s minds between what has to do with convictions, beliefs,> > ideals of all sorts and what has to do with science. An "all things
> > are equal" attitude may seem appealing and tolerant, but is in fact
> > dangerous."
>
> > "15. The teaching of all phenomena concerning evolution as a
> > fundamental scientific theory is therefore crucial to the future of
> > our societies and our democracies. For that reason it must occupy a
> > central position in the curriculums, and especially in the science
> > syllabuses, as long as, like any other theory, it is able to stand up
> > to thorough scientific scrutiny."
>
> That's because you don't have a shit load of poorly educated in-bred
> brainwashed oafs over there..K- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

REPLY:  Sorry to see that madeup inventions that go strictly against
real science, has made its way across the big pond.  Tell em to open
thier bibles and find out how modern science is proving the bible and
creationism correct and Pond Scum to retired Chemist incredibly silly
and desperate.

On 1/29/08 2:22 PM, in article
2b6cbdc3-7079-43da-8d9e-b31327cd5c36@d21g2000prg.googlegroups.com, "Ken"
 wrote:

> On Jan 29, 10:58 am, "graham"  wrote:
>> Reposted from talk.origins.
>> I just thought it might entertain any fundie visitors{;-)
>> Graham
>> 
>> Europe embraces Evolution
>> Ursula Siebert
>> 
>> http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/50453
>> 
>> Ursula Siebert, originally a German teacher & lecturer turned
>> businesswoman, lived in different European countries before coming to
>> the USA. She is now a free-lance writer.
>> 
>> January 28, 2008
>> 
>> Europe has embraced Evolution. I always knew that but it was nice to
>> have it confirmed lately when I stumbled across an old issues of the
>> Skeptical Inquirer No-Dec 07. The Council of Europe´s Parliamentary
>> Assembly approved a resolution stating:
>> 
>> "1.The aim of this resolution is not to question or to fight a belief
>> - the right to freedom of belief does not permit that. The aim is to
>> warn against certain tendencies to pass off a belief as science. It is
>> necessary to separate belief from science. It is not a matter of
>> antagonism. Science and belief must be able to coexist. It is not a
>> matter of opposing belief and science, but it is necessary to prevent
>> belief from opposing science.
>> 
>> 2. For some people the Creation, as a matter of religious belief,
>> gives a meaning to life. Nevertheless, the Parliamentary Assembly is
>> worried about the possible ill-effects of the spread of creationist
>> ideas within our education systems and about the consequences for our
>> democracies. If we are not careful, creationism could become a threat
>> to human rights, which are a key concern of the Council of Europe.
>> 
>> 3. Creationism, born of the denial of the evolution of species through
>> natural selection, was for a long time an almost exclusively American
>> phenomenon. Today creationist ideas are tending to find their way into
>> Europe and their spread is affecting quite a few Council of Europe
>> member states."
>> 
>> "7. There is a real risk of serious confusion being introduced into
>> our children´s minds between what has to do with convictions, beliefs,
>> ideals of all sorts and what has to do with science. An "all things
>> are equal" attitude may seem appealing and tolerant, but is in fact
>> dangerous."
>> 
>> "15. The teaching of all phenomena concerning evolution as a
>> fundamental scientific theory is therefore crucial to the future of
>> our societies and our democracies. For that reason it must occupy a
>> central position in the curriculums, and especially in the science
>> syllabuses, as long as, like any other theory, it is able to stand up
>> to thorough scientific scrutiny."
> 
> That's because you don't have a shit load of poorly educated in-bred
> brainwashed oafs over there..K
   Hey...that's enough Bush bashing...Hah

On Jan 30, 6:34 am, TT  wrote:

> > That's because you don't have a shit load of poorly educated in-bred
> > brainwashed oafs over there..K
>
>    Hey...that's enough Bush bashing...Hah

LOL@that!
I find it rather interesting than none of the Republican candidates
even dare mention GWB in their campaigning.
He's the worst president we've ever had during my lifetime, has even
further soiled our rather piss poor reputation with the rest of the
World.
A perfect example of what an religious ideologue will do when given
near absolute power....Arrogance and Incompetence

Constitution
What Constitution?
I'm the President!
Laws are made for everyone else, but not me.
I'm above the Law!

An interesting observation. If one asks, very few people here will
even admit to voting for him \(I sure didn't!)

"Ken"  wrote in message 
news:2333038f-3820-4380-a864-36904ec41311@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 30, 6:34 am, TT  wrote:

> > That's because you don't have a shit load of poorly educated in-bred
> > brainwashed oafs over there..K
>
> Hey...that's enough Bush bashing...Hah

LOL@that!
I find it rather interesting than none of the Republican candidates
even dare mention GWB in their campaigning.
He's the worst president we've ever had during my lifetime, has even
further soiled our rather piss poor reputation with the rest of the
World.
A perfect example of what an religious ideologue will do when given
near absolute power....Arrogance and Incompetence

-------------------------------------------------
Do you *really* think he's religious?  I get the impression that it's all 
for show and am reminded of a New Orleans tourguide (many years ago) 
pointing to a church and saying: "That's where Huey Long worshipped 
every............election time".
Graham

On Jan 30, 9:03 am, "graham"  wrote:
> "Ken"  wrote in message
>
> news:2333038f-3820-4380-a864-36904ec41311@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 30, 6:34 am, TT  wrote:
>
> > > That's because you don't have a shit load of poorly educated in-bred
> > > brainwashed oafs over there..K
>
> > Hey...that's enough Bush bashing...Hah
>
> LOL@that!
> I find it rather interesting than none of the Republican candidates
> even dare mention GWB in their campaigning.
> He's the worst president we've ever had during my lifetime, has even
> further soiled our rather piss poor reputation with the rest of the
> World.
> A perfect example of what an religious ideologue will do when given
> near absolute power....Arrogance and Incompetence
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Do you *really* think he's religious?  I get the impression that it's all
> for show and am reminded of a New Orleans tourguide (many years ago)
> pointing to a church and saying: "That's where Huey Long worshipped
> every............election time".
> Graham

I don't believe anything that nitwit has saz.
He embraced the religious right to get his ass elected.......and they
fell for it, hook, line and anchor

The message

from Ken  contains these words:

> I don't believe anything that nitwit has saz.
> He embraced the religious right to get his ass elected.......and they
> fell for it, hook, line and anchor

Not really surprising because to believe all that rubbish in the first
place requires that they are both very dim and gullible!

-- 
**********
David W-G
**********

On Jan 30, 10:31 am, David Wynne-Griffiths 
wrote:

> Not really surprising because to believe all that rubbish in the first
> place requires that they are both very dim and gullible!
>
> --
> **********
> David W-G
> **********

So true..
Have you ever had the misfortune to listen to Pat (I talk to Dog)
Robertson on TBN?
(Trinity Broadcasting Network)
No better example of a dried up old prune of a religious fuckwit was
never born, except maybe for Benny Hinn, Jim Baker, Joyce Meyers, Oral
Roberts, Robert Tilton, Tammy Fay, Kenneth Copeland all participating
in the same "Fleecing The Flock"

graham wrote:

>> I find it rather interesting than none of the Republican candidates
>> even dare mention GWB in their campaigning.
>
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
> Do you *really* think he's religious?  I get the impression that it's all 
> for show ...

If the reports that bible reading sessions in the Whitehouse were 
compulsory, then yes.

regards, Ian