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date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:16:07 +0100,    group: uk.misc        back       
testing testing 1 2 3   
This machine hasn't been switched on for a couple of years, I think...
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:16:07 +0100   author:   Dave

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
Dave  writes:

> This machine hasn't been switched on for a couple of years, I think...

uk.test, wazzok!

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date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:36:18 +0100   author:   August West

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, August West said:
> > This machine hasn't been switched on for a couple of years, I think...
> 
> uk.test, wazzok!

I didn't want a trace, I just wanted to see if it'd fall over... 

I want to put more memory in it now.
All I seem to have handy is a couple of 256MB modules, and the m'board 
only has 2 slots...
I feel a trip to MicroDirect coming on.
Want a new hard drive for _this_ machine anyway. How might one clone the 
existing disk to a new one _exactly_ - so I can then swap the 
master/slave stuff and boot from the new one?

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date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:13:23 +0100   author:   Carlton Miniott

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
Carlton Miniott  writes:

> Want a new hard drive for _this_ machine anyway. How might one clone the 
> existing disk to a new one _exactly_ - so I can then swap the 
> master/slave stuff and boot from the new one?

dd if=/dev/old of=/dev/new

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       ... And besides, anything could happen yet
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:17:38 +0100   author:   August West

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
August West  writes:

> Carlton Miniott  writes:
>
>> Want a new hard drive for _this_ machine anyway. How might one clone the 
>> existing disk to a new one _exactly_ - so I can then swap the 
>> master/slave stuff and boot from the new one?
>
> dd if=/dev/old of=/dev/new

Yeah, that's Linux: boot from a live disc. I don't think you can clone
drives that are non-quiescent in Windows.

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I'm broken. Please show this to someone who can fix me
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:21:36 +0100   author:   August West

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:21:36 +0100, August West wrote:

> August West  writes:
> 
>> Carlton Miniott  writes:
>>
>>> Want a new hard drive for _this_ machine anyway. How might one clone the 
>>> existing disk to a new one _exactly_ - so I can then swap the 
>>> master/slave stuff and boot from the new one?
>>
>> dd if=/dev/old of=/dev/new
> 
> Yeah, that's Linux: boot from a live disc. I don't think you can clone
> drives that are non-quiescent in Windows.

driveimage-xml

http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm

Also Ultimate Boot CD has a few cloning tools.

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com

Both free.


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they can think of, plus some that are beyond imagination.
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:35:04 +0100   author:   Hot Badger Deluxe

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
In article ,
August West   wrote:

>>> Want a new hard drive for _this_ machine anyway. How might one clone the 
>>> existing disk to a new one _exactly_ - so I can then swap the 
>>> master/slave stuff and boot from the new one?

>> dd if=/dev/old of=/dev/new

>Yeah, that's Linux: boot from a live disc. I don't think you can clone
>drives that are non-quiescent in Windows.

Stick a bootable Linux/BSD/Solaris/whatever CD in, then do the dd.

-- Richard
-- 
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.
date: 14 Aug 2008 15:40:49 GMT   author:   (Richard Tobin)

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, Hot Badger Deluxe 
said:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:21:36 +0100, August West wrote:
> 
> > August West  writes:
> > 
> >> Carlton Miniott  writes:
> >>
> >>> Want a new hard drive for _this_ machine anyway. How might one clone the 
> >>> existing disk to a new one _exactly_ - so I can then swap the 
> >>> master/slave stuff and boot from the new one?
> >>
> >> dd if=/dev/old of=/dev/new
> > 
> > Yeah, that's Linux: boot from a live disc. I don't think you can clone
> > drives that are non-quiescent in Windows.
> 
> driveimage-xml
> 
> http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm

Looks interesting.
> 
> Also Ultimate Boot CD has a few cloning tools.
> 
> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com
> 
> Both free.
> 
> 
> 
I've got the UBCD4W, but not the UBCD. Must check what it's got in that 
area.
I may have a Ubuntu disk about.
-- 
teh internets is populated by eggshells armed with hammers
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:47:30 +0100   author:   Carlton Miniott

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, Richard Tobin 
said:
> In article ,
> August West   wrote:
> 
> >>> Want a new hard drive for _this_ machine anyway. How might one clone the 
> >>> existing disk to a new one _exactly_ - so I can then swap the 
> >>> master/slave stuff and boot from the new one?
> 
> >> dd if=/dev/old of=/dev/new
> 
> >Yeah, that's Linux: boot from a live disc. I don't think you can clone
> >drives that are non-quiescent in Windows.
> 
> Stick a bootable Linux/BSD/Solaris/whatever CD in, then do the dd.
> 
> -- Richard
> 
How's it know what old and new are? Or am I supposed to type something 
else there? Do I need to mount the drives first? 
I really know very little about computers, you know.
-- 
teh internets is populated by eggshells armed with hammers
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:49:30 +0100   author:   Carlton Miniott

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
Carlton Miniott  writes:

> Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, Richard Tobin 
> said:
>> In article ,
>> August West   wrote:
>> 
>> >> dd if=/dev/old of=/dev/new
>> 
>> >Yeah, that's Linux: boot from a live disc. I don't think you can clone
>> >drives that are non-quiescent in Windows.
>> 
>> Stick a bootable Linux/BSD/Solaris/whatever CD in, then do the dd.
>> 
>> -- Richard
>> 
> How's it know what old and new are?

D'oh; you have to tell it. 

> Or am I supposed to type something else there? Do I need to mount the
> drives first? 

Old and new are placeholders for the real names. /dev/sdaX and /dev/sdbY
probably. X and Y are placeholders, too, for a number; fdisk will
supply.

> I really know very little about computers, you know.

Bloody pensioners!

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date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:09 +0100   author:   August West

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
Carlton Miniott  writes:

> Do I need to mount the drives first? 

No, absolutely not.

-- 
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date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:34 +0100   author:   August West

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:47:30 +0100, Carlton Miniott wrote:

<snip>

This place has a host of useful stuff:

http://lists.thedatalist.com/


-- 
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date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:59:36 +0100   author:   Hot Badger Deluxe

Re: testing testing 1 2 3   
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:34 +0100, August West wrote:

> Carlton Miniott  writes:
> 
>> Do I need to mount the drives first? 
> 
> No, absolutely not.

They'd get all sticky.


-- 
An anagram of Lembit Opik.
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:02:16 +0100   author:   Hot Badger Deluxe

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