http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:

>
>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g

Ooh, nice one.

Which makes me wonder.  Now we have all this supposedly wonderful
digital technology, why is it apparently next to impossible to get
sound and vision in synch?

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Peter Ward  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
> 
> >
> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g
> 
> Ooh, nice one.
> 
> Which makes me wonder.  Now we have all this supposedly wonderful
> digital technology, why is it apparently next to impossible to get
> sound and vision in synch?

Because the on-line video channels insist on using CrappyFormats(tm)
such as Flash.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:09:10 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:

>Peter Ward  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g
>> 
>> Ooh, nice one.
>> 
>> Which makes me wonder.  Now we have all this supposedly wonderful
>> digital technology, why is it apparently next to impossible to get
>> sound and vision in synch?
>
>Because the on-line video channels insist on using CrappyFormats(tm)
>such as Flash.

But, I've had the same problem on my portable DVD player, and seen it
on my mate's telly now the signal is digital.  The DVD player can
sometimes be sorted after a few cycles of pausing or stopping
playback, then restarting it.

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Peter

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Here am I, brain the size of a planet, and I spend my time posting to Usenet!

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:34:53 +0100, Peter Ward wrote:

<snip>

> 
> But, I've had the same problem on my portable DVD player, and seen it
> on my mate's telly now the signal is digital.  The DVD player can
> sometimes be sorted after a few cycles of pausing or stopping
> playback, then restarting it.

I sometimes get that on digital TV. Switching to another channel, then back
again fixes it. The ability to pause TV makes the occasional problem
worthwhile.


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Hot Badger Deluxe  writes:

> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:34:53 +0100, Peter Ward wrote:
>
>> But, I've had the same problem on my portable DVD player, and seen it
>> on my mate's telly now the signal is digital.  The DVD player can
>> sometimes be sorted after a few cycles of pausing or stopping
>> playback, then restarting it.
>
> I sometimes get that on digital TV. Switching to another channel, then
> back again fixes it. The ability to pause TV makes the occasional
> problem worthwhile.

When I did some work, many years ago, on Hughs Satellite digital TV set
top box, this was a problem we were forever having: it's synchromisation
betwen the two signal streams: for whatever reason (and there are
several culprits) their buffers get our of sync, and there's no built-in
sync signals to allow resyncing by dropping underrun data, so it's more
or less dead reckoning to keep it all flowing nicely together.

-- 
move it or park it

In article ,
 Peter Ward  writes:
> But, I've had the same problem on my portable DVD player, and seen it
> on my mate's telly now the signal is digital.  The DVD player can
> sometimes be sorted after a few cycles of pausing or stopping
> playback, then restarting it.

Sometimes, digital TV audio/video synch has to be done by `Mark 1 eyeball'.
-- 
SAm.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:

>
>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g

Magic indeed - Dr. John:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4OVqVXvg_Q&feature=related

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All cats are, in a very real sense, in the kitchen meowing for food even when they appear to be somewhere else.

Peter Ward  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
> 
> >
> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g
> 
> Magic indeed - Dr. John:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4OVqVXvg_Q&feature=related

I've always thought Dr. J. was more about Voodoo than magic.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:45:57 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:

>Peter Ward  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g
>> 
>> Magic indeed - Dr. John:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4OVqVXvg_Q&feature=related
>
>I've always thought Dr. J. was more about Voodoo than magic.

Fine line, isn't it?

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Peter

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Homeopaths suffer from dilutions of grandeur.
- Artyw

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:10:52 +0100, Peter Ward wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:45:57 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
> 
>>Peter Ward  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g
>>> 
>>> Magic indeed - Dr. John:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4OVqVXvg_Q&feature=related
>>
>>I've always thought Dr. J. was more about Voodoo than magic.
> 
> Fine line, isn't it?

Chris Whitley - Dust Radio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRSJgx9cfU4

One hell of a guitarist.


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Cats have never forgotten this.

Peter Ward  wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:45:57 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
> 
> >Peter Ward  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g
> >> 
> >> Magic indeed - Dr. John:
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4OVqVXvg_Q&feature=related
> >
> >I've always thought Dr. J. was more about Voodoo than magic.
> 
> Fine line, isn't it?

And he's a long way on the Voodoo side of it.

Peter Ward  writes:

> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:45:57 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
>
>>Peter Ward  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g
>>> 
>>> Magic indeed - Dr. John:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4OVqVXvg_Q&feature=related
>>
>>I've always thought Dr. J. was more about Voodoo than magic.
>
> Fine line, isn't it?

If it involves chicken, or goat, it's voodoo.

-- 
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:24:33 +0100, August West 
wrote the following to uk.misc:

> Peter Ward  writes:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:45:57 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
>>
>>>Peter Ward  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:44 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >
>>>> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEdf7XsV5g
>>>> 
>>>> Magic indeed - Dr. John:
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4OVqVXvg_Q&feature=related
>>>
>>>I've always thought Dr. J. was more about Voodoo than magic.
>>
>> Fine line, isn't it?
>
> If it involves chicken, or goat, it's voodoo.

I could just murder a curry right now. Where *do* you get goat meat for
cooking? I think a trip to Chapeltown might be on the cards.

mh.
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:24:33 +0100, August West 
wrote this:

>If it involves chicken, or goat, it's voodoo.

Had my first taste of goat on Thursday afternoon at the Cheshire Ring
in Hyde, as part of a Caribbean curry.  It was on the bone & dead
tender.  Really stank the flat up that night.



-- 
Grk.
"One's made of plastic & is harmful to children,
 & the other carries your shopping."

In article , august@kororaa.com says...
>  
> If it involves chicken, or goat, it's voodoo.
> 

Or curry.

-- 
eric
All of us are in the gutter but some of us
are looking up women's skirts

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:03:27 +0100, Bing Trotsky wrote:

> In article , august@kororaa.com says...
>>  
>> If it involves chicken, or goat, it's voodoo.
>> 
> 
> Or curry.

Voodoo Curry - the less well known follow up to Voodoo Chile


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Hot Badger Deluxe  wrote:
>
>Chris Whitley - Dust Radio
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRSJgx9cfU4

Hmm, not the best sound reproduction there.  Great track though, he's
one of those folk whose music I keep meaning to buy, cos I miss it now
I've not got easy access to my mum and dad's CDs.

-- 
eleanor@the-blairs.co.uk                          http://lnr.livejournal.com/

On 30 Jul 2008 09:30:30 +0100 (BST), Eleanor Blair wrote:

> Hot Badger Deluxe  wrote:
>>
>>Chris Whitley - Dust Radio
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRSJgx9cfU4
> 
> Hmm, not the best sound reproduction there.  Great track though, he's
> one of those folk whose music I keep meaning to buy, cos I miss it now
> I've not got easy access to my mum and dad's CDs.

Living With The Law is a wonderful album. So sad that he died so young.


-- 
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one is constantly making exciting discoveries.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:25:08 +0100, Sam Nelson wrote:

>In article ,
> Peter Ward  writes:
>> But, I've had the same problem on my portable DVD player, and seen it
>> on my mate's telly now the signal is digital.  The DVD player can
>> sometimes be sorted after a few cycles of pausing or stopping
>> playback, then restarting it.
>
>Sometimes, digital TV audio/video synch has to be done by `Mark 1 eyeball'.

Huh?  The digital synch is entirely out of my hands, or eyes, as far
as I'm aware.

-- 

Peter

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email: home at peteward dot gotadsl dot co dot uk
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- N Jill Marsh

In message , August West 
 writes
>Hot Badger Deluxe  writes:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:34:53 +0100, Peter Ward wrote:
>>
>>> But, I've had the same problem on my portable DVD player, and seen it
>>> on my mate's telly now the signal is digital.  The DVD player can
>>> sometimes be sorted after a few cycles of pausing or stopping
>>> playback, then restarting it.
>>
>> I sometimes get that on digital TV. Switching to another channel, then
>> back again fixes it. The ability to pause TV makes the occasional
>> problem worthwhile.
>
>When I did some work, many years ago, on Hughs Satellite digital TV set
>top box, this was a problem we were forever having: it's synchromisation
>betwen the two signal streams: for whatever reason (and there are
>several culprits) their buffers get our of sync, and there's no built-in
>sync signals to allow resyncing by dropping underrun data, so it's more
>or less dead reckoning to keep it all flowing nicely together.

With an MPEG stream (as used in UK DTTV, Sky etc.), unless it's a faulty 
transmission which is rare, it's only dead reckoning and drift on a 
badly coded box that doesn't use the synchronising facilities in the 
stream (PCR, PTS and DTS).



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