On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:29:32 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
 wrote:

>This music gives me tremendous pleasure.

And long may it continue to do so, if that's what you like.

>It causes no-one else any harm. 

Probably not.

>In what way is it deserving of your comment?

I think it's crap.
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JAF wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:29:32 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
>  wrote:
>
>> This music gives me tremendous pleasure.
>
> And long may it continue to do so, if that's what you like.
>
>> It causes no-one else any harm.
>
> Probably not.
>
>> In what way is it deserving of your comment?
>
> I think it's crap.

LOL

On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:38:06 +0100, JAF
 wrote this:

>>In what way is it deserving of your comment?
>
>I think it's crap.

Fine, but referring to naked emperors is condescending crap.  You're
insinuating that people are only pretending to like it, which is just
blockheaded.



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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:11:55 +0100, Hypodeemic Nerdle wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:38:06 +0100, JAF
>  wrote this:
> 
>>>In what way is it deserving of your comment?
>>
>>I think it's crap.
> 
> Fine, but referring to naked emperors is condescending crap.  You're
> insinuating that people are only pretending to like it, which is just
> blockheaded.

YES!!!

PS: Get a Crackle Box. You know you want to...


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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:22:59 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
 wrote this:

>PS: Get a Crackle Box. You know you want to...

Absofrickinlutely.  I'm after one of these too:
http://www.nevadamusic.co.uk/Keyboards_Pianos/Starter/sc1141/p6216.aspx
Pete Nolan (Magik Markers/Spectre Folk) played one at Dulcimer in
Chorlton about three weeks ago.  Wonder what it'd be like through
distortion & wah pedals?




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Grk!

On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:11:55 +0100, Hypodeemic Nerdle
<grk@ku.gro.assednacni> wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:38:06 +0100, JAF
> wrote this:
>
>>>In what way is it deserving of your comment?
>>
>>I think it's crap.
>
>Fine, but referring to naked emperors is condescending crap. 

> You're
>insinuating that people are only pretending to like it, which is just
>blockheaded.

If that's how some take it, fine.  I'm not bothered.  Am I bothered?
There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
to be part of the clique.
I'm not, I think it's crap.

But it's not important crap.

All those who want to listen to it, like it or not, go ahead, listen to it.
I won't.
Because I think it's pretentious crap.

Each to his own.



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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:18:25 +0100, JAF
 wrote this:

>There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
>to be part of the clique.

Why do you say "many"?




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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:18:25 +0100, JAF wrote:

> There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
> to be part of the clique.

Really? Based on what?

I can see where this is going. And I wish I couldn't.


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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:34:01 +0100, August West wrote:

> JAF  writes:
> 
>> There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
>> to be part of the clique.
> 
> Why is there such a high probability? Becasue you don't like it, you
> don't think others truly can? Yet aren't you the one who recently
> dismissed Buddhism as solipsism?

Indeed. I'm truly disappointed. 


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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:24:13 +0100, Hypodeemic Nerdle
<grk@ku.gro.assednacni> wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:18:25 +0100, JAF
> wrote this:
>
>>There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
>>to be part of the clique.
>
>Why do you say "many"?

Because it would be wrong to say 'all', and 'some' might not be enough.
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:32:16 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
 wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:18:25 +0100, JAF wrote:
>
>> There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
>> to be part of the clique.
>
>Really? Based on what?
>
RL.


>I can see where this is going. And I wish I couldn't.

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     Sapere Aude

On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:34:01 +0100, August West  wrote:

>JAF  writes:
>
>> There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
>> to be part of the clique.
>
>Why is there such a high probability? Becasue you don't like it, you
>don't think others truly can?

Because it's what happens, from Kylie to Beethoven, Schopenhauer to Chopin.

> Yet aren't you the one who recently
>dismissed Buddhism as solipsism?

Erm, not exactly.
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:46:18 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
 wrote:

>Indeed. I'm truly disappointed. 

Oh, no.  I'll never sleep now.
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:15:45 +0100, JAF wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:34:01 +0100, August West  wrote:
> 
>>JAF  writes:
>>
>>> There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
>>> to be part of the clique.
>>
>>Why is there such a high probability? Becasue you don't like it, you
>>don't think others truly can?
> 
> Because it's what happens, 

So that's a NO then.

 
>> Yet aren't you the one who recently
>>dismissed Buddhism as solipsism?
> 
> Erm, not exactly.

In what way?


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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:30:45 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
 wrote:

>>>Why is there such a high probability? Becasue you don't like it, you
>>>don't think others truly can?
>> 
>> Because it's what happens, 
>
>So that's a NO then.
>
No, in the sense that 'because I don't like it, [I] don't think others truly
can' is incorrect.
There'll always be someone who goes along with the crowd, in every field of
human endeavour.

>>> Yet aren't you the one who recently
>>>dismissed Buddhism as solipsism?
>> 
>> Erm, not exactly.
>
>In what way?
>
In the way that I didn't exactly dismiss buddhism as solipsism.
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:56:59 +0100, JAF wrote:

> There'll always be someone who goes along with the crowd, in every field of
> human endeavour.

So who are this "crowd" who are into Supersilent? I've been into difficult
music since the mid 70's. I've never met them.


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they can think of, plus some that are beyond imagination.

JAF wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:11:55 +0100, Hypodeemic Nerdle
> <grk@ku.gro.assednacni> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:38:06 +0100, JAF
>>  wrote this:
>>
>>>> In what way is it deserving of your comment?
>>> I think it's crap.
>> Fine, but referring to naked emperors is condescending crap. 
> 
>> You're
>> insinuating that people are only pretending to like it, which is just
>> blockheaded.
> 
> If that's how some take it, fine.  I'm not bothered.  Am I bothered?
> There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
> to be part of the clique.

I've been pretending to like certain types of music for years, but 
somehow no-one has noticed, and my clique kit hasn't turned up - perhaps 
I've been wasting my time and stop pretending to like it!

JAF wrote:
> Because it's what happens, from Kylie to Beethoven, Schopenhauer to Chopin.

Stockhausen? Schoenberg?  Unless this is some sort of Sesame Street "one 
of these things is different" games.  (I'm aware that there's a problem 
with logical positivists pretending to be into metaphysics purely for 
the street cred).

On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:04:52 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
 wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:56:59 +0100, JAF wrote:
>
>> There'll always be someone who goes along with the crowd, in every field of
>> human endeavour.
>
>So who are this "crowd" who are into Supersilent? I've been into difficult
>music since the mid 70's. I've never met them.


Three's a crowd.
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     Sapere Aude

On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:15:45 +0100, JAF
 wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:34:01 +0100, August West  wrote:
>
>>JAF  writes:
>>
>>> There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like it,
>>> to be part of the clique.
>>
>>Why is there such a high probability? Becasue you don't like it, you
>>don't think others truly can?
>
>Because it's what happens, from Kylie to Beethoven, Schopenhauer to Chopin.

The Schopenhauer clique is especially small ;-)

Come to think of it though, while I don't doubt that Hot Badger really
does like that clip he posted, I think anyone who listens to Chopin
and doesn't like it at all is probably lying.

-- 
TF

On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:21:56 +0100, JAF wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:04:52 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
>  wrote:
> 
>>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:56:59 +0100, JAF wrote:
>>
>>> There'll always be someone who goes along with the crowd, in every field of
>>> human endeavour.
>>
>>So who are this "crowd" who are into Supersilent? I've been into difficult
>>music since the mid 70's. I've never met them.
> 
> 
> Three's a crowd.

That's beyond pathetic.


-- 
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:50:25 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
 wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:21:56 +0100, JAF wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:04:52 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:56:59 +0100, JAF wrote:
>>>
>>>> There'll always be someone who goes along with the crowd, in every field of
>>>> human endeavour.
>>>
>>>So who are this "crowd" who are into Supersilent? I've been into difficult
>>>music since the mid 70's. I've never met them.
>> 
>> 
>> Three's a crowd.
>
>That's beyond pathetic.

I want to say, 'and your mindless literalism isn't?'

But I'd rather leave it at
 
Suit yourself.

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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:22:02 +0100, Trash Folder <trash@can.org.invalid>
wrote:

>>Because it's what happens, from Kylie to Beethoven, Schopenhauer to Chopin.
>
>The Schopenhauer clique is especially small ;-)

Indeedy-doody, vanishingly so.

I've no idea where that slipped in from.

I very nearly burned my dinner, you know, just got to it in the nick of
time.
.
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In uk.misc,  (Steve Firth) wrote in
<1ijm7cm.kterci1evorumN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>::

>Hot Badger Deluxe  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:18:25 +0100, JAF wrote:
>> 
>> > There's a fairly high probability that many are only pretending to like
>> > it, to be part of the clique.
>> 
>> Really? Based on what?
>> 
>> I can see where this is going. And I wish I couldn't.
>
>Do you not ever look back through your record collection and think "Why
>the Fuck did I buy that?" 

Yes.

>then realise that the particular purchase was
>due to peer pressure, and the belief that XXX was 'cool'? I have.

No.  Because, essentially, I don't give a shit.  For similar reasons,
I've never smoked.

>Indeed, like many, for much of what I listened to in the 70s I tend to
>wonder if someone was slipping mind altering drugs into my tea.

*shrug*.  Your tastes change.  I grew out of Andy-Pandy somewhere along
the way as well.
>
>Life's a lot more pleasant since I started listening to stuff I like
>rather than stuff I thought would expand my musical horizons or teach me
>something I didn't know or "intellectually challenge" me.
>
>If you like someone beating a sheep to death with a Mongolian nose flute
>while chain-sawing a Morris Minor into its component pieces then good on
>you. Bear in mind though that if you're playing it in the next apartment
>to mine I might just pop around and add a staccato accompaniment with a
>sawn off shotgun.
>
>And you certainly can't deny the influence of the clique, and peer
>pressure, in the the listening choices of young males in particular, can
>you?

A lot of people lack the moral fibre to truly not give a shit.
-- 
Marc

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