British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.

(a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
either.

(b) Ever tried to drive to it? There's a couple of picturesque villages 
will have to go - or a lot of farmland bought to buid a brand new road 
(or three)

(c) The planes for East Midlands come in awful low...

Maybe it's an extreme bluff - after all, Brands never got it, in the 
end, last time Bernie took it away from Silverstone.


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On 2008-07-04, Dave Budd  wrote:
> British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.
>
> (a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
> longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
> then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
> either.
>
> (b) Ever tried to drive to it? There's a couple of picturesque villages 
> will have to go - or a lot of farmland bought to buid a brand new road 
> (or three)

After HMG coughed up a fortune to dual the A43 from the M10 to the M1.

>
> (c) The planes for East Midlands come in awful low...

Which makes it slippery.

> Maybe it's an extreme bluff - after all, Brands never got it, in the 
> end, last time Bernie took it away from Silverstone.

It would be cheaper, easier and more effective to get rid of Bernie.


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Dave Budd wrote:
> British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.
> 
> (a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
> longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
> then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
> either.
> 
> (b) Ever tried to drive to it? There's a couple of picturesque villages 
> will have to go - or a lot of farmland bought to buid a brand new road 
> (or three)
> 
> (c) The planes for East Midlands come in awful low...
> 
> Maybe it's an extreme bluff - after all, Brands never got it, in the 
> end, last time Bernie took it away from Silverstone.
> 
Plus the pit lane isn't wide enough or long enough and the garages are 
crappy as well.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:04:49 +0000, Huge wrote:

>> (c) The planes for East Midlands come in awful low...
> 
> Which makes it slippery.

Does it?

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In article , 
dave.budd@manchester.ac.ku says...
> British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.
> 
> (a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
> longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
> then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
> either.
> 

Personally I'm in favour of shifting it to the National Watersports 
centre in Nottingham. White water slalom in F1 cars might actually be 
worth watching.
 
-- 
eric
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

On 2008-07-04, Fevric J Glandules <fevric@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:04:49 +0000, Huge wrote:
>
>>> (c) The planes for East Midlands come in awful low...
>> 
>> Which makes it slippery.
>
> Does it?

Yes.


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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:16:20 +0000, Huge wrote:

> On 2008-07-04, Fevric J Glandules <fevric@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:04:49 +0000, Huge wrote:
>>
>>>> (c) The planes for East Midlands come in awful low...
>>> 
>>> Which makes it slippery.
>>
>> Does it?
> 
> Yes.

Unburnt jet fuel falling out of the sky?

Anyway, just what F1 needs.

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In uk.misc,  (Eric Jarvis) wrote in
::

>In article , 
>dave.budd@manchester.ac.ku says...
>> British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.
>> 
>> (a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
>> longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
>> then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
>> either.
>> 
>
>Personally I'm in favour of shifting it to the National Watersports 
>centre in Nottingham. White water slalom in F1 cars might actually be 
>worth watching.

Well, the Boscastle event with Transit vans was compelling viewing.
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to apologize for calling a fellow MP a liar.

On 2008-07-04, Fevric J Glandules <fevric@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:16:20 +0000, Huge wrote:
>
>> On 2008-07-04, Fevric J Glandules <fevric@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:04:49 +0000, Huge wrote:
>>>
>>>>> (c) The planes for East Midlands come in awful low...
>>>> 
>>>> Which makes it slippery.
>>>
>>> Does it?
>> 
>> Yes.
>
> Unburnt jet fuel falling out of the sky?

Precisely.

> Anyway, just what F1 needs.

Precisely. 


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In article , E-0C001302-3113-
E@cleopatra.co.uk says...
> In uk.misc,  (Eric Jarvis) wrote in
> ::
> 
> >In article , 
> >dave.budd@manchester.ac.ku says...
> >> British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.
> >> 
> >> (a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
> >> longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
> >> then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
> >> either.
> >
> >Personally I'm in favour of shifting it to the National Watersports 
> >centre in Nottingham. White water slalom in F1 cars might actually be 
> >worth watching.
> 
> Well, the Boscastle event with Transit vans was compelling viewing.
> 

I was going to suggest that Transit van racing would be more fun than F1, 
then I realised I'd seen the M25.

-- 
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"Jesus got it wrong,
the dumb have inherited the Earth"

In uk.misc,  (Eric Jarvis) wrote in
::

>In article , E-0C001302-3113-
>E@cleopatra.co.uk says...
>> In uk.misc,  (Eric Jarvis) wrote in
>> ::
>> 
>> >In article , 
>> >dave.budd@manchester.ac.ku says...
>> >> British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.
>> >> 
>> >> (a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
>> >> longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
>> >> then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
>> >> either.
>> >
>> >Personally I'm in favour of shifting it to the National Watersports 
>> >centre in Nottingham. White water slalom in F1 cars might actually be 
>> >worth watching.
>> 
>> Well, the Boscastle event with Transit vans was compelling viewing.
>> 
>
>I was going to suggest that Transit van racing would be more fun than F1, 
>then I realised I'd seen the M25.

As long as you can drive the famous Ford "Breadvan", which had a GT40
motor in the back.  I assume it was called that because it got hot
enough to bake bread in it.
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it sometimes chases them down dark alleys, hits them over the head, and
goes through their pockets. -- James Nicoll
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On 2008-07-05, Marc Wilson  wrote:
> In uk.misc,  (Eric Jarvis) wrote in
>::
>
>>In article , E-0C001302-3113-
>>E@cleopatra.co.uk says...
>>> In uk.misc,  (Eric Jarvis) wrote in
>>> ::
>>> 
>>> >In article , 
>>> >dave.budd@manchester.ac.ku says...
>>> >> British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.
>>> >> 
>>> >> (a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
>>> >> longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
>>> >> then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
>>> >> either.
>>> >
>>> >Personally I'm in favour of shifting it to the National Watersports 
>>> >centre in Nottingham. White water slalom in F1 cars might actually be 
>>> >worth watching.
>>> 
>>> Well, the Boscastle event with Transit vans was compelling viewing.
>>> 
>>
>>I was going to suggest that Transit van racing would be more fun than F1, 
>>then I realised I'd seen the M25.
>
> As long as you can drive the famous Ford "Breadvan", which had a GT40
> motor in the back.  I assume it was called that because it got hot
> enough to bake bread in it.

Ford have built a number of Transit Supervans;

http://www.carpages.co.uk/ford/ford_150mph_transit_supervan_3_17_07_04.asp

Or if you'd rather have something more "family orientated";

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDG4ZYTcWN0


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In article , 
ericjarvis@gmail.com says...
> In article , 
> dave.budd@manchester.ac.ku says...
> > British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.
> > 
> > (a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
> > longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
> > then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
> > either.
> > 
> 
> Personally I'm in favour of shifting it to the National Watersports 
> centre in Nottingham. White water slalom in F1 cars might actually be 
> worth watching.
>  
> 
I believe there is a class of powerboat with the designation "F1" m'lud.
One of the most dangerous sports on the planet.
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Dave Budd wrote:

> I believe there is a class of powerboat with the designation "F1" m'lud.
> One of the most dangerous sports on the planet.

Is that the one they run on a tight course with solid harbour walls to 
catch anyone who goes wide? Or something else...

In message , Willy Eckerslyke 
 writes
>Dave Budd wrote:
>
>> I believe there is a class of powerboat with the designation "F1" m'lud.
>> One of the most dangerous sports on the planet.
>
>Is that the one they run on a tight course with solid harbour walls to 
>catch anyone who goes wide? Or something else...


I used to live very close to Bristol docks, when they ran powerboat 
racing there the noise was absolutely phenomenal.



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On 2008-07-08, Dave Budd  wrote:
> In article , 
> ericjarvis@gmail.com says...
>> In article , 
>> dave.budd@manchester.ac.ku says...
>> > British Grand Prix will be at Donington for 10 years from 2010.
>> > 
>> > (a) Only way to make Donington suitable for F1 - it needs to be wider, 
>> > longer, with lots more run-off - is to ruin its current character. And 
>> > then the bikes won't go there anymore, and the touring cars might not 
>> > either.
>> > 
>> 
>> Personally I'm in favour of shifting it to the National Watersports 
>> centre in Nottingham. White water slalom in F1 cars might actually be 
>> worth watching.
>>  
>> 
> I believe there is a class of powerboat with the designation "F1" m'lud.
> One of the most dangerous sports on the planet.

Pah. F1 Powerboats are for wusses. What you want is "Unlimited hydroplane"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddVZrLapq5g

Yes, those *are* jet engines.

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On 2008-07-08, Willy Eckerslyke  wrote:
> Dave Budd wrote:
>
>> I believe there is a class of powerboat with the designation "F1" m'lud.
>> One of the most dangerous sports on the planet.
>
> Is that the one they run on a tight course with solid harbour walls to 
> catch anyone who goes wide? 

That's the one. They race in Bristol Docks, where there's not only big stone
walls, but the wash from the boats brings big baulks of water-soaked timber up
from the bottom....

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Huge wrote:

> Pah. F1 Powerboats are for wusses. What you want is "Unlimited hydroplane"

Yebbut they're out on open water, the real nutters race jet sprint boats 
on ditches just a few feet wide, making 90 degree turns at full speed 
with just inches to spare.

bof wrote:
> In message , Willy Eckerslyke 
>  writes
>> Dave Budd wrote:
>>
>>> I believe there is a class of powerboat with the designation "F1" m'lud.
>>> One of the most dangerous sports on the planet.
>>
>> Is that the one they run on a tight course with solid harbour walls to 
>> catch anyone who goes wide? Or something else...
> 
> I used to live very close to Bristol docks, when they ran powerboat 
> racing there the noise was absolutely phenomenal.

That's the one. Do they still do that, or have they all been killed?

In message , Willy Eckerslyke 
 writes
>bof wrote:
>> In message , Willy Eckerslyke 
>> writes
>>> Dave Budd wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe there is a class of powerboat with the designation "F1" m'lud.
>>>> One of the most dangerous sports on the planet.
>>>
>>> Is that the one they run on a tight course with solid harbour walls 
>>>to  catch anyone who goes wide? Or something else...
>>  I used to live very close to Bristol docks, when they ran powerboat 
>>racing there the noise was absolutely phenomenal.
>
>That's the one. Do they still do that, or have they all been killed?

Not sure, not lived there for years, ISTR there were regular fatalities 
though.

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