if ur getting i.s w/disability premium & dla straight into your bank
acct., what happens if you become homeless? do they need an address?
they must want to be able to contact you. what do you do?

and what if you have to stay at ur friends house but he doesn't want
his address to go out?

john wrote:
> if ur getting i.s w/disability premium & dla straight into your bank
> acct., what happens if you become homeless? do they need an address?
> they must want to be able to contact you. what do you do?
> 
> and what if you have to stay at ur friends house but he doesn't want
> his address to go out?
> 

It's different rules for each benefit. And also it depends on whether 
you are "homeless" but can provide an address (eg if you are sleeping on 
a sofa at a friend's house) or whether you have "no fixed abode" (NFA) 
as your address, for example if you are on the streets or sleeping at a 
different address on a regular basis. It used to be that if you were NFA 
you didn't get any disability premiums with IS - I don't know if this is 
still the case. DLA may have their own rules, including they may want to 
know if your needs are now less - for example if you needed help getting 
up and down stairs to get to bed, to the toilet etc but that is no 
longer the case then you would expect your benefit to be reviewed. It 
will depend on why you are getting DLA.

If you are sleeping at a friend's then you should really give this 
address, however many people, for a variety of reasons don't want their 
address given out. You would need to discuss it with the IS people as if 
you are living permanently at another address, even if sleeping on the 
sofa, this should be given as your address. Of course, your friend may 
lose the single persons discount if living alone and paying council tax, 
or they may have their Housing or Council Tax Benefit reduced if they 
are on benefit and you are over 25, or they may really be a partner and 
you need to make a joint claim. The IS people will probably push you for 
an address, even if just for correspondence.

There are too many variables that you really need to speak to someone 
face to face. The Citizens Advice Bureau or the welfare rights section 
of your local council may be a place to start but even they may not know 
the answer.

-- 
Robbie

On 21 Aug, 13:13, Robbie  wrote:
> john wrote:
> > if ur getting i.s w/disability premium & dla straight into your bank
> > acct., what happens if you become homeless? do they need an address?
> > they must want to be able to contact you. what do you do?
>
> > and what if you have to stay at ur friends house but he doesn't want
> > his address to go out?
>
> It's different rules for each benefit. And also it depends on whether
> you are "homeless" but can provide an address (eg if you are sleeping on
> a sofa at a friend's house) or whether you have "no fixed abode" (NFA)
> as your address, for example if you are on the streets or sleeping at a
> different address on a regular basis. It used to be that if you were NFA
> you didn't get any disability premiums with IS - I don't know if this is
> still the case. DLA may have their own rules, including they may want to
> know if your needs are now less - for example if you needed help getting
> up and down stairs to get to bed, to the toilet etc but that is no
> longer the case then you would expect your benefit to be reviewed. It
> will depend on why you are getting DLA.
>
> If you are sleeping at a friend's then you should really give this
> address, however many people, for a variety of reasons don't want their
> address given out. You would need to discuss it with the IS people as if
> you are living permanently at another address, even if sleeping on the
> sofa, this should be given as your address. Of course, your friend may
> lose the single persons discount if living alone and paying council tax,
> or they may have their Housing or Council Tax Benefit reduced if they
> are on benefit and you are over 25, or they may really be a partner and
> you need to make a joint claim. The IS people will probably push you for
> an address, even if just for correspondence.
>
> There are too many variables that you really need to speak to someone
> face to face. The Citizens Advice Bureau or the welfare rights section
> of your local council may be a place to start but even they may not know
> the answer.
>
> --
> Robbie

Yes, homeless (rough sleepers) tend to get just basic benefit rather
than adding on the elements they should get on top.
One of the more common problems we come across at work. Not sure if
its national or just local issues.
Not uncommon to find no benefit paid for a while at all - some
homeless not being great with getting bank accounts.

Martin  <><

mart2306@hotmail.com wrote:
> On 21 Aug, 13:13, Robbie  wrote:
>> john wrote:
>>> if ur getting i.s w/disability premium & dla straight into your bank
>>> acct., what happens if you become homeless? do they need an address?
>>> they must want to be able to contact you. what do you do?
>>> and what if you have to stay at ur friends house but he doesn't want
>>> his address to go out?
>> It's different rules for each benefit. And also it depends on whether
>> you are "homeless" but can provide an address (eg if you are sleeping on
>> a sofa at a friend's house) or whether you have "no fixed abode" (NFA)
>> as your address, for example if you are on the streets or sleeping at a
>> different address on a regular basis. It used to be that if you were NFA
>> you didn't get any disability premiums with IS - I don't know if this is
>> still the case. DLA may have their own rules, including they may want to
>> know if your needs are now less - for example if you needed help getting
>> up and down stairs to get to bed, to the toilet etc but that is no
>> longer the case then you would expect your benefit to be reviewed. It
>> will depend on why you are getting DLA.
>>
>> If you are sleeping at a friend's then you should really give this
>> address, however many people, for a variety of reasons don't want their
>> address given out. You would need to discuss it with the IS people as if
>> you are living permanently at another address, even if sleeping on the
>> sofa, this should be given as your address. Of course, your friend may
>> lose the single persons discount if living alone and paying council tax,
>> or they may have their Housing or Council Tax Benefit reduced if they
>> are on benefit and you are over 25, or they may really be a partner and
>> you need to make a joint claim. The IS people will probably push you for
>> an address, even if just for correspondence.
>>
>> There are too many variables that you really need to speak to someone
>> face to face. The Citizens Advice Bureau or the welfare rights section
>> of your local council may be a place to start but even they may not know
>> the answer.
>>
>> --
>> Robbie
> 
> Yes, homeless (rough sleepers) tend to get just basic benefit rather
> than adding on the elements they should get on top.
> One of the more common problems we come across at work. Not sure if
> its national or just local issues.
> Not uncommon to find no benefit paid for a while at all - some
> homeless not being great with getting bank accounts.
> 
> Martin  <><

The history of additions to benefit for homeless people has been one in 
which they have received more or less none - prior to the introduction 
of Income Support and its use of Premiums to increase basic benefit, the 
Supplementary Benefit scheme had Additional Requirements (known as 
Exceptional Circumstances Additions up to 1980) but many were beyond the 
reach of homeless people due to the qualifying conditions laid down for 
receiving them so when Income Support was introduced, certain Premiums 
were intentionally removed from the entitlement of rough sleepers to 
formalise this.

This is why it is important that the original poster uses an address if 
possible, to ensure the Disability Premium remains in payment.
-- 
Robbie

That's terrible. Puts things in quite a bind then, as the landlord has
nicked the deposit, shafting things properly. What happens if you get
royal mail redirection to a postoffice, and just keep shtum? You don't
mean any harm by it, obviously, but you just don't want to get shafted
any further. Obviously you cancel the housing benefit though as you
don't want money you don't deserve, and a new person will move in &
pay council tax. What happens then?

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:13:10 +0100, Robbie 
wrote:

>john wrote:
>> if ur getting i.s w/disability premium & dla straight into your bank
>> acct., what happens if you become homeless? do they need an address?
>> they must want to be able to contact you. what do you do?
>> 
>> and what if you have to stay at ur friends house but he doesn't want
>> his address to go out?
>> 
>
>It's different rules for each benefit. And also it depends on whether 
>you are "homeless" but can provide an address (eg if you are sleeping on 
>a sofa at a friend's house) or whether you have "no fixed abode" (NFA) 
>as your address, for example if you are on the streets or sleeping at a 
>different address on a regular basis. It used to be that if you were NFA 
>you didn't get any disability premiums with IS - I don't know if this is 
>still the case. DLA may have their own rules, including they may want to 
>know if your needs are now less - for example if you needed help getting 
>up and down stairs to get to bed, to the toilet etc but that is no 
>longer the case then you would expect your benefit to be reviewed. It 
>will depend on why you are getting DLA.
>
>If you are sleeping at a friend's then you should really give this 
>address, however many people, for a variety of reasons don't want their 
>address given out. You would need to discuss it with the IS people as if 
>you are living permanently at another address, even if sleeping on the 
>sofa, this should be given as your address. Of course, your friend may 
>lose the single persons discount if living alone and paying council tax, 
>or they may have their Housing or Council Tax Benefit reduced if they 
>are on benefit and you are over 25, or they may really be a partner and 
>you need to make a joint claim. The IS people will probably push you for 
>an address, even if just for correspondence.
>
>There are too many variables that you really need to speak to someone 
>face to face. The Citizens Advice Bureau or the welfare rights section 
>of your local council may be a place to start but even they may not know 
>the answer.

john wrote:
> That's terrible. Puts things in quite a bind then, as the landlord has
> nicked the deposit, shafting things properly. What happens if you get
> royal mail redirection to a postoffice, and just keep shtum? You don't
> mean any harm by it, obviously, but you just don't want to get shafted
> any further. Obviously you cancel the housing benefit though as you
> don't want money you don't deserve, and a new person will move in &
> pay council tax. What happens then?
> 

The HB department will inform the DWP IS section that the property has 
been vacated and if you can't be contacted your IS will cease. I don't 
know the rules about DLA but at a guess the benefit would be suspended 
if you just "vanish".

I can't advise you to use Royal Mail redirect and to keep quiet as the 
outcome at some point will be you go to get your benefit and there's 
nothing in your account as it has been stopped. Also, legally, you have 
to inform the DWP of your whereabouts, or at least provide them with an 
address where you can be contacted, unless of course, you have no fixed 
abode but then you will have to be seen in the benefit office. By 
whereabouts I mean a current address or a care of address etc, not where 
you are at any given time!

-- 
Robbie