On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:04:38 -0000, "Gazz"  wrote:


>
>didnt even tell her what our dog is crossed with, could be a toy poodle,
>strange how we managed fine in a motorhome with the dog for 7 months one 
>time, and the motorhome is about a quarter of the size of a static caravan.
>
>So seems we must look for 1 bed bungalows, or the ultra rate ground floor 
>flat with the garden to be allowed to go any further with a letting agent. 
>

Or seriously consider leaving the dog at your parents? [1]

Be aware of how stressful you'll find it (It is already causing you
stress I expect) finding somewhere.

[1] Once you've moved in are they going to count how often you have
the dog to visit? Can the dog never visit or is it just not allowed to
live there?

But I wouldn't want a dog in flat. It's fine until the dog can't wait
to get out through communal areas and you find yourself in trouble.
There's also more neighbours to annoy with the noise and you don't
want to fall out with your neighbours. And it doesn't matter if your
dog doesn't bark, they run round and make loads of noise on the floors
which will drive people mad. And when people get annoyed by the dog
they'll snitch you up.
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"mogga"  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:04:38 -0000, "Gazz"  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>didnt even tell her what our dog is crossed with, could be a toy poodle,
>>strange how we managed fine in a motorhome with the dog for 7 months one
>>time, and the motorhome is about a quarter of the size of a static 
>>caravan.
>>
>>So seems we must look for 1 bed bungalows, or the ultra rate ground floor
>>flat with the garden to be allowed to go any further with a letting agent.
>>
>
> Or seriously consider leaving the dog at your parents? [1]
>
> Be aware of how stressful you'll find it (It is already causing you
> stress I expect) finding somewhere.
>
> [1] Once you've moved in are they going to count how often you have
> the dog to visit? Can the dog never visit or is it just not allowed to
> live there?
>
> But I wouldn't want a dog in flat. It's fine until the dog can't wait
> to get out through communal areas and you find yourself in trouble.
> There's also more neighbours to annoy with the noise and you don't
> want to fall out with your neighbours. And it doesn't matter if your
> dog doesn't bark, they run round and make loads of noise on the floors
> which will drive people mad. And when people get annoyed by the dog
> they'll snitch you up.

Tried the housing associations here, they all have closed lists for the 
foreseable future (for some reason the hordes of polish 'scroungers' are 
taking priority over people who have lived here most of their lives.

The 'flat' we were looking at had no communal area's, basicaly if the car 
port area under it had a front wall, it would be classed as a house,

It's one of these 'over' flats between rows of houses, the others in the 
street are over the entrance to the car parking areas, this one had a wall 
at the back to make it a private parking area for the flat only,

So it has it's own entrance door etc.

I understand about the communal area's bit, and was looking for the flats 
that had private entrances specificaly for that,

But the letting agents said that we wouldent be considered for any flat 
ever, because we have a dog, and even if we left it with parents, we might 
try to sneak her into the flat once we're moved in,

i'm annoyed that this is them saying that, not the landlords who for all i 
know may be animal lovers and not have a problem with a dog in their 
property, but i can't find out because the letting agent wont ask.... i 
could understand if this agent did what all the others do... put no 
dogs/smokers/dss on all the listings, but these dont, they say they ask the 
individual landlords on each application,
just not for me tho.

Just got an e-mail from a landlady... woohoo,

i'd asked a letting agent in the next town up about a quarter house they had 
listed, if they'd take pets and dss etc,

landlady e-mailed me, current tennant has pets and is on dss, so no probs, 
tennant wants to move out, and will when there's a new tennant to move in, 
landlady is taking property on her self rather than using a letting agent.

gonna go and see the area this afternoon, and if it's ok, arange to view the 
place, will be saturday mornin, so i'll be lookin at our possible first 
place to live on my bifday, but i haddnt got owt else planned.

now for the Q's

owt i should be aware of when renting directly from a landlord?? i know i'll 
not have to pay any agents 'arangement' fees etc, i gather it'll be better 
as i can comunicate directly with the owner, rather than having the hassle 
i've had with a letting agent just getting them to ask a question to the 
landlord of a place we were interested in.

The place is in newark, so is a different county council area, (i'm in skdc 
at the mo, newark is in notts and something council)

Is there likely to be a problem with that? i havent claimed HB before, so i 
gather i just hand in the HB claim form to the newark council offices rather 
than the Grantham one i got it from (this is the standard HB calim form you 
get in benefits claim packs)

pre-tennancy agremment, again do i use the form i have already and hand it 
into newark council, or am i best going to see the councli there for a new 
form incase it's different.

My IS claim, do i have to change that to newark council area? or will it be 
done automaticaly when/if i move to a new town? am i likely to have to go 
through the assesments all over again for moving to a different council 
area?

i had one 2 years ago, and havent had owt since, guess i'm decreped enough 
to not be considered a risk to be likely to defraud them,

i know i'll have to move doctors, dentists, vets etc, owt else i should be 
aware of.

sorry if these are daft Q's, and i'm only possibly moving 11 miles up the 
road, but this is all new to me.

"Gazz"  wrote in message 
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> Just got an e-mail from a landlady... woohoo,
>
> i'd asked a letting agent in the next town up about a quarter house they 
> had listed, if they'd take pets and dss etc,
>
> landlady e-mailed me, current tennant has pets and is on dss, so no probs, 
> tennant wants to move out, and will when there's a new tennant to move in, 
> landlady is taking property on her self rather than using a letting agent.
>
> gonna go and see the area this afternoon, and if it's ok, arange to view 
> the place, will be saturday mornin, so i'll be lookin at our possible 
> first place to live on my bifday, but i haddnt got owt else planned.
>
> now for the Q's
>
> owt i should be aware of when renting directly from a landlord?? i know 
> i'll not have to pay any agents 'arangement' fees etc, i gather it'll be 
> better as i can comunicate directly with the owner, rather than having the 
> hassle i've had with a letting agent just getting them to ask a question 
> to the landlord of a place we were interested in.

Make sure you get a tenancy agreement signed by the LL and thats it.



>
> The place is in newark, so is a different county council area, (i'm in 
> skdc at the mo, newark is in notts and something council)

Shouldnt be a problem, but you never know with benefits.

>
> Is there likely to be a problem with that? i havent claimed HB before, so 
> i gather i just hand in the HB claim form to the newark council offices 
> rather than the Grantham one i got it from (this is the standard HB calim 
> form you get in benefits claim packs)

Yes, give the HB form to the local council office.



>
> pre-tennancy agremment, again do i use the form i have already and hand it 
> into newark council, or am i best going to see the councli there for a new 
> form incase it's different.

You better see the council for the area you will be living in.


>
> My IS claim, do i have to change that to newark council area? or will it 
> be done automaticaly when/if i move to a new town? am i likely to have to 
> go through the assesments all over again for moving to a different council 
> area?

I assume it will be transferred, shouldnt be too difficult for them to do 
that.


>
> i had one 2 years ago, and havent had owt since, guess i'm decreped enough 
> to not be considered a risk to be likely to defraud them,
>
> i know i'll have to move doctors, dentists, vets etc, owt else i should be 
> aware of.


Tell the milkman, post office to forward mail, utility companies, DVLA, 
police if you are under curfew, probation officer etc etc.

>
> sorry if these are daft Q's, and i'm only possibly moving 11 miles up the 
> road, but this is all new to me.
>

You will need to take meter readings, do an inventory of everything in the 
house, check that all appliances are in good working order and clean, 
washing machine, fridge, cooker, if supplied taps, toilet etc, leaks under 
sink for eg. Any marks or damage to walls, fixtures and fittings, note them 
down, its best if you have a camera to take pictures, condition of floor 
coverings such as carpet, paint work if its faded or peeling, you need to 
make a note of everything and attach it to the TA before you sign the dotted 
line, all this must be done with the landlord present, so you wont end up 
losing your deposit, if there is one.

On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:13:42 -0000, "Gazz"  wrote:

>Just got an e-mail from a landlady... woohoo,
>
>i'd asked a letting agent in the next town up about a quarter house they had 
>listed, if they'd take pets and dss etc,
>
>landlady e-mailed me, current tennant has pets and is on dss, so no probs, 
>tennant wants to move out, and will when there's a new tennant to move in, 
>landlady is taking property on her self rather than using a letting agent.
>
>gonna go and see the area this afternoon, and if it's ok, arange to view the 
>place, will be saturday mornin, so i'll be lookin at our possible first 
>place to live on my bifday, but i haddnt got owt else planned.
>
>now for the Q's

Get a tenancy agreement.
Read about deposit schemes
http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-7507.cfm


>
>owt i should be aware of when renting directly from a landlord?? i know i'll 
>not have to pay any agents 'arangement' fees etc, i gather it'll be better 
>as i can comunicate directly with the owner, rather than having the hassle 
>i've had with a letting agent just getting them to ask a question to the 
>landlord of a place we were interested in.
>
>The place is in newark, so is a different county council area, (i'm in skdc 
>at the mo, newark is in notts and something council)
>
>Is there likely to be a problem with that? i havent claimed HB before, so i 
>gather i just hand in the HB claim form to the newark council offices rather 
>than the Grantham one i got it from (this is the standard HB calim form you 
>get in benefits claim packs)
>
>pre-tennancy agremment, again do i use the form i have already and hand it 
>into newark council, or am i best going to see the councli there for a new 
>form incase it's different.
>
>My IS claim, do i have to change that to newark council area? or will it be 
>done automaticaly when/if i move to a new town? am i likely to have to go 
>through the assesments all over again for moving to a different council 
>area?
>
>i had one 2 years ago, and havent had owt since, guess i'm decreped enough 
>to not be considered a risk to be likely to defraud them,
>
>i know i'll have to move doctors, dentists, vets etc, owt else i should be 
>aware of.

Don't tell your dentist you're moving until you've found a new one for
def. 

>
>sorry if these are daft Q's, and i'm only possibly moving 11 miles up the 
>road, but this is all new to me. 
>

Have you ever had electric and gas and telephone in your own names
before? You might be asked to pay a deposit or go on a horrid meter.
Avoid the card meters if possible.

Don't forget the tv licence. Water rates. 
All good to get going immediately - especially the TV licence else
they'll fine you. 

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mogga wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:13:42 -0000, "Gazz"  wrote:
> 
>> Just got an e-mail from a landlady... woohoo,
>>
>> i'd asked a letting agent in the next town up about a quarter house they had 
>> listed, if they'd take pets and dss etc,
>>
>> landlady e-mailed me, current tennant has pets and is on dss, so no probs, 
>> tennant wants to move out, and will when there's a new tennant to move in, 
>> landlady is taking property on her self rather than using a letting agent.
>>
>> gonna go and see the area this afternoon, and if it's ok, arange to view the 
>> place, will be saturday mornin, so i'll be lookin at our possible first 
>> place to live on my bifday, but i haddnt got owt else planned.
>>
>> now for the Q's
> 
> Get a tenancy agreement.
> Read about deposit schemes
> http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-7507.cfm
> 
> 
>> owt i should be aware of when renting directly from a landlord?? i know i'll 
>> not have to pay any agents 'arangement' fees etc, i gather it'll be better 
>> as i can comunicate directly with the owner, rather than having the hassle 
>> i've had with a letting agent just getting them to ask a question to the 
>> landlord of a place we were interested in.
>>
>> The place is in newark, so is a different county council area, (i'm in skdc 
>> at the mo, newark is in notts and something council)
>>
>> Is there likely to be a problem with that? i havent claimed HB before, so i 
>> gather i just hand in the HB claim form to the newark council offices rather 
>> than the Grantham one i got it from (this is the standard HB calim form you 
>> get in benefits claim packs)
>>
>> pre-tennancy agremment, again do i use the form i have already and hand it 
>> into newark council, or am i best going to see the councli there for a new 
>> form incase it's different.
>>
>> My IS claim, do i have to change that to newark council area? or will it be 
>> done automaticaly when/if i move to a new town? am i likely to have to go 
>> through the assesments all over again for moving to a different council 
>> area?
>>
>> i had one 2 years ago, and havent had owt since, guess i'm decreped enough 
>> to not be considered a risk to be likely to defraud them,
>>
>> i know i'll have to move doctors, dentists, vets etc, owt else i should be 
>> aware of.
> 
> Don't tell your dentist you're moving until you've found a new one for
> def. 

is it necessary to look for a new dentist? Unlike a GP who can insist 
someone lives local if they want to be registered I've never heard of a 
dentist imposing such a restriction.

My last dentist was 10 miles away from where I live, but close to where 
I worked. Luckily I now have a dentist close to home but the dentist I 
was with never once made an issue of my home address.

> 
>> sorry if these are daft Q's, and i'm only possibly moving 11 miles up the 
>> road, but this is all new to me. 
>>
> 
> Have you ever had electric and gas and telephone in your own names
> before? You might be asked to pay a deposit or go on a horrid meter.
> Avoid the card meters if possible.
> 
> Don't forget the tv licence. Water rates. 
> All good to get going immediately - especially the TV licence else
> they'll fine you. 
> 


If the original poster is worried about the cost of forking out for a TV 
licence in one go there's the weekly or monthly cash payment schemes 
that allow a person to pay for the licence over 6 months initially then 
over a year subsequently (the licence is paid for 6 months in advance 
and 6 months in arrears, except that first which is 6 months in advance).

-- 
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:08:01 +0000, Robbie 
wrote:

>> Don't tell your dentist you're moving until you've found a new one for
>> def. 
>
>is it necessary to look for a new dentist? Unlike a GP who can insist 
>someone lives local if they want to be registered I've never heard of a 
>dentist imposing such a restriction.
>
>My last dentist was 10 miles away from where I live, but close to where 
>I worked. Luckily I now have a dentist close to home but the dentist I 
>was with never once made an issue of my home address.


Quite. In some areas dentists are very hard to find so it's probably
best to find one first if you want to move.


>
>> 
>>> sorry if these are daft Q's, and i'm only possibly moving 11 miles up the 
>>> road, but this is all new to me. 
>>>
>> 
>> Have you ever had electric and gas and telephone in your own names
>> before? You might be asked to pay a deposit or go on a horrid meter.
>> Avoid the card meters if possible.
>> 
>> Don't forget the tv licence. Water rates. 
>> All good to get going immediately - especially the TV licence else
>> they'll fine you. 
>> 
>
>
>If the original poster is worried about the cost of forking out for a TV 
>licence in one go there's the weekly or monthly cash payment schemes 
>that allow a person to pay for the licence over 6 months initially then 
>over a year subsequently (the licence is paid for 6 months in advance 
>and 6 months in arrears, except that first which is 6 months in advance).
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Well that's buggered today up (my bifday too)

Was all set up to go and view the property today at 11, had been in the area 
last night, was quiet, liked the area, liked the place from the outside, had 
got all the paperwork to move to a new area on me,

gets a phone call this morning from the landlady to tell me the person she 
showed round yesterday has taken it.

Bugger, now i'm back to square 1,

On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:56:26 -0000, "Gazz"  wrote:

>Well that's buggered today up (my bifday too)
>
>Was all set up to go and view the property today at 11, had been in the area 
>last night, was quiet, liked the area, liked the place from the outside, had 
>got all the paperwork to move to a new area on me,
>
>gets a phone call this morning from the landlady to tell me the person she 
>showed round yesterday has taken it.
>
>Bugger, now i'm back to square 1, 
>

Ah bad luck. I remember my time looking for a flat many years ago when
getting the paper the minute it came out and ringing the ads
immediately often got a response of it's gone already.
I think in the end one landlord had several flats in the area and
failing to be quick enough for one landed me a much nicer one. 

Is it the only flat she's got?
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