On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:27:49 -0800 (PST), "mart2306@hotmail.com"
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>On 31 Jan, 18:17, Mogga  wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:23:06 -0800 (PST), "mart2...@hotmail.com"
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>>  wrote:
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>> >> Any figures on part time work supported by benefits compared to full
>> >> time work not supported by benefits?
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>> >Well, many part time workers do get working tax credits. Are you
>> >including that as a benefit?
>> >And there will be some on incapacity benefit while working part time.
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>> >Martin  <><
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>> Yes, tax credits would count as a benefit. If you didn't get top up
>> credits you'd probably look for a second job. But these days it seems
>> the government is happy for there to be many part time workers who get
>> benefit.  I assume people who get it don't want to lose it and so
>> would avoid voting out the hand that feeds them.
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>About 7 million part-time workers. Though likely some at least will
>have sufficient numbers of part time jobs to make full time hours.
>Still, for those of us who cannot work full time for whatever reason,
>part time working keeps us off the dole.  :)
>
>Martin  <><

I'm thinking about the point at what someone is the same burden
financially on the state unemployed as employed but works for a
company...   
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On 1 Feb, 08:56, mogga  wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:27:49 -0800 (PST), "mart2...@hotmail.com"
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>  wrote:
> >On 31 Jan, 18:17, Mogga  wrote:
> >> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:23:06 -0800 (PST), "mart2...@hotmail.com"
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> >>  wrote:
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> >> >> Any figures on part time work supported by benefits compared to full
> >> >> time work not supported by benefits?
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> >> >Well, many part time workers do get working tax credits. Are you
> >> >including that as a benefit?
> >> >And there will be some on incapacity benefit while working part time.
>
> >> >Martin <><
>
> >> Yes, tax credits would count as a benefit. If you didn't get top up
> >> credits you'd probably look for a second job. But these days it seems
> >> the government is happy for there to be many part time workers who get
> >> benefit. I assume people who get it don't want to lose it and so
> >> would avoid voting out the hand that feeds them.
>
> >> --http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
> >> Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for 
> >> deliveryhttp://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
> >> Or get it delivered for free
>
> >About 7 million part-time workers. Though likely some at least will
> >have sufficient numbers of part time jobs to make full time hours.
> >Still, for those of us who cannot work full time for whatever reason,
> >part time working keeps us off the dole. :)
>
> >Martin <><
>
> I'm thinking about the point at what someone is the same burden
> financially on the state unemployed as employed but works for a
> company...
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Hmmmm.....thats a tougher one.
Some part-timers will be the highest earner in the household. Others
will also qualify for working tax credits.
Then there are disabled who will tend to get a lot more tax credits
and more likely to be part timers as well - plus state paying for some
adaptions the company makes.
Then there are those part-timers who bring the 2nd income into the
house - so perhaps don't qualify for state help at all.
Though part-timers will tend to cost the companies (and therefore the
state the companies are passing the payments on to) in employer NI.
Currently 12.8% of salary above £5225.

A tough one to work out, the point at which someone stops being a
burden on the state. Even in purely income terms.


A burden on the state, what the hell does that mean, we are the state, us, 
the people, the unemployed, the NMW workers, without us no fat cats would 
exist, greedy bastard politicians would not have anyone to rob, they would 
have to tax themselves.