My son is claiming unemployment benefit, he is 20 years old. He lives 
with me his father. In the light of recent developments of an MP 
paying his son for doing nothing (I just deleted a word beginning with 
f and followed by all) can I demand that he becomes my lodger and pays 
say £70 a week - so he would have to claim rent allowance from the 
DHHS?

Is anyone legally obliged to support someone after the age of 18?

"citizen142"  wrote in message 
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> My son is claiming unemployment benefit, he is 20 years old. He lives
> with me his father. In the light of recent developments of an MP
> paying his son for doing nothing (I just deleted a word beginning with
> f and followed by all) can I demand that he becomes my lodger and pays
> say £70 a week - so he would have to claim rent allowance from the
> DHHS?
>
> Is anyone legally obliged to support someone after the age of 18?
>


Yes, draw up a tenancy agreement and you can charge him, nobody lives rent 
free these days unless they are MP's, did you know that they can claim a 
house / second residence by simply asking, and they get to keep it when they 
leave office, thats on top of obscene expenses and earnings and the highest 
pension pay out in the land.

Niteawk wrote:
> 
> "citizen142"  wrote in message 
> news:pctoj.1376$OK.202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>> My son is claiming unemployment benefit, he is 20 years old. He lives
>> with me his father. In the light of recent developments of an MP
>> paying his son for doing nothing (I just deleted a word beginning with
>> f and followed by all) can I demand that he becomes my lodger and pays
>> say £70 a week - so he would have to claim rent allowance from the
>> DHHS?
>>
>> Is anyone legally obliged to support someone after the age of 18?
>>
> 
> 
> Yes, draw up a tenancy agreement and you can charge him, nobody lives 
> rent free these days unless they are MP's, did you know that they can 
> claim a house / second residence by simply asking, and they get to keep 
> it when they leave office, thats on top of obscene expenses and earnings 
> and the highest pension pay out in the land.

Load of bollocks as usual Niteawk.

You can't claim Housing Benefit if you live in the same house as a 
relative. I hope people never rely on you to get answers for advice. You 
really don't have a clue. As per normal.

To the original poster, you can be responsible for the upkeep of a 
"child" until they turn 25. It's normally for someone who goes into 
higher education (i.e. undertakes a degree or similar).

-- 
Robbie

"Robbie"  wrote in message 
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> Niteawk wrote:
>>
>> "citizen142"  wrote in message 
>> news:pctoj.1376$OK.202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>>> My son is claiming unemployment benefit, he is 20 years old. He lives
>>> with me his father. In the light of recent developments of an MP
>>> paying his son for doing nothing (I just deleted a word beginning with
>>> f and followed by all) can I demand that he becomes my lodger and pays
>>> say £70 a week - so he would have to claim rent allowance from the
>>> DHHS?
>>>
>>> Is anyone legally obliged to support someone after the age of 18?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, draw up a tenancy agreement and you can charge him, nobody lives 
>> rent free these days unless they are MP's, did you know that they can 
>> claim a house / second residence by simply asking, and they get to keep 
>> it when they leave office, thats on top of obscene expenses and earnings 
>> and the highest pension pay out in the land.
>
> Load of bollocks as usual Niteawk.
>
> You can't claim Housing Benefit if you live in the same house as a 
> relative. I hope people never rely on you to get answers for advice. You 
> really don't have a clue. As per normal.
>

But you can claim HB if you rent from a relative as long as its not in the 
same hoose mon.
They have changed the rules again, have they? All he has to do then is get a 
mate to say he is renting a room at his house and bobs your uncle.

Niteawk wrote:
> 
> "Robbie"  wrote in message 
> news:60f9ljF1q19rnU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>
>>> "citizen142"  wrote in message 
>>> news:pctoj.1376$OK.202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> My son is claiming unemployment benefit, he is 20 years old. He lives
>>>> with me his father. In the light of recent developments of an MP
>>>> paying his son for doing nothing (I just deleted a word beginning with
>>>> f and followed by all) can I demand that he becomes my lodger and pays
>>>> say £70 a week - so he would have to claim rent allowance from the
>>>> DHHS?
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone legally obliged to support someone after the age of 18?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, draw up a tenancy agreement and you can charge him, nobody lives 
>>> rent free these days unless they are MP's, did you know that they can 
>>> claim a house / second residence by simply asking, and they get to 
>>> keep it when they leave office, thats on top of obscene expenses and 
>>> earnings and the highest pension pay out in the land.
>>
>> Load of bollocks as usual Niteawk.
>>
>> You can't claim Housing Benefit if you live in the same house as a 
>> relative. I hope people never rely on you to get answers for advice. 
>> You really don't have a clue. As per normal.
>>
> 
> But you can claim HB if you rent from a relative as long as its not in 
> the same hoose mon.
> They have changed the rules again, have they? All he has to do then is 
> get a mate to say he is renting a room at his house and bobs your uncle.

What has the latter got to do with the original question. He lives AT 
HOME with his father. Not somewhere else.

And when you get a mate to say he is renting you a room - assuming that 
is the case and it's not a contrived tenancy - the the house is checked 
out by the HB section for ownership. Not that this is relevant in this case.

-- 
Robbie

Niteawk wrote:
> 
> "Robbie"  wrote in message 
> news:60f9ljF1q19rnU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>
>>> "citizen142"  wrote in message 
>>> news:pctoj.1376$OK.202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> My son is claiming unemployment benefit, he is 20 years old. He lives
>>>> with me his father. In the light of recent developments of an MP
>>>> paying his son for doing nothing (I just deleted a word beginning with
>>>> f and followed by all) can I demand that he becomes my lodger and pays
>>>> say £70 a week - so he would have to claim rent allowance from the
>>>> DHHS?
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone legally obliged to support someone after the age of 18?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, draw up a tenancy agreement and you can charge him, nobody lives 
>>> rent free these days unless they are MP's, did you know that they can 
>>> claim a house / second residence by simply asking, and they get to 
>>> keep it when they leave office, thats on top of obscene expenses and 
>>> earnings and the highest pension pay out in the land.
>>
>> Load of bollocks as usual Niteawk.
>>
>> You can't claim Housing Benefit if you live in the same house as a 
>> relative. I hope people never rely on you to get answers for advice. 
>> You really don't have a clue. As per normal.
>>
> 
> But you can claim HB if you rent from a relative as long as its not in 
> the same hoose mon.
> They have changed the rules again, have they? All he has to do then is 
> get a mate to say he is renting a room at his house and bobs your uncle.

That reg came in in 1987.

On 1 Feb, 09:04, "Niteawk"  wrote:
> "Robbie"  wrote in message
>
> news:60f9ljF1q19rnU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Niteawk wrote:
>
> >> "citizen142"  wrote in message
> >>news:pctoj.1376$OK.202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> >>> My son is claiming unemployment benefit, he is 20 years old. He lives
> >>> with me his father. In the light of recent developments of an MP
> >>> paying his son for doing nothing (I just deleted a word beginning with> >>> f and followed by all) can I demand that he becomes my lodger and pays> >>> say £70 a week - so he would have to claim rent allowance from the
> >>> DHHS?
>
> >>> Is anyone legally obliged to support someone after the age of 18?
>
> >> Yes, draw up a tenancy agreement and you can charge him, nobody lives
> >> rent free these days unless they are MP's, did you know that they can
> >> claim a house / second residence by simply asking, and they get to keep> >> it when they leave office, thats on top of obscene expenses and earnings
> >> and the highest pension pay out in the land.
>
> > Load of bollocks as usual Niteawk.
>
> > You can't claim Housing Benefit if you live in the same house as a
> > relative. I hope people never rely on you to get answers for advice. You> > really don't have a clue. As per normal.
>
> But you can claim HB if you rent from a relative as long as its not in the> same hoose mon.
> They have changed the rules again, have they? All he has to do then is get a
> mate to say he is renting a room at his house and bobs your uncle.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh dear niteawk - not a clue and then to try and cover your gaffe you
go off topic and advocate a clumsy fraud which could easily be
discovered leading to prosecution & fines.

I would suggest the OP runs for parliament then employs their son and
niteawk as researchers and kill two birds with one stone.

Mike

On 31 Jan, 23:53, "citizen142"  wrote:
> My son is claiming unemployment benefit, he is 20 years old. He lives
> with me his father. In the light of recent developments of an MP
> paying his son for doing nothing (I just deleted a word beginning with
> f and followed by all) can I demand that he becomes my lodger and pays
> say £70 a week - so he would have to claim rent allowance from the
> DHHS?
>
> Is anyone legally obliged to support someone after the age of 18?

At 20 and claiming in his own right you have no legal duty to support
your him.  Some might say you have a moral duty however that very much
depends on whet your son is doing, trying to do, his contribution to
the household and your circumstances.  If he's a stroppy miserable git
who never pulls his weight with the housework and hoovers up food you
can ill afford you have no moral duty to support him at all!

You have two choices in the present circumstances - subsidise him by
charging minimal/no board or kick him out.  Alternatively he could get
a job, Niteawk will no doubt dismiss this as a pie-in-the-sky idea on
a par with honest value for money politicians and transporter beams.

Mike