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date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:24:26 -0800 (PST),    group: uk.gov.social-security        back       
Re: Jobcentre Plus New Deal   
On 11 Dec, 20:07, "Niteawk"  wrote:
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> >> "Robbie"  wrote in message
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> >>>>> YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! I'VE GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> >>>> And it wasnt from the JC i'll wager.
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> >>> Does it matter? You're supposed to say "well done" not find another
> >>> reason to be sarcastic about the JC!
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> >> It does matter, if she got that job through the JC then I will have to
> >> adjust my stats to read 0.000000001 Why am I supposed to say well done,
> >> is that in the rules? of course I wish her well, that goes without
> >> saying. I can get a job anytime I like in the charity sector. Plenty of
> >> jobs around if you dont mind working for nothing ;)
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> > What's the JC got to do with getting a job? It's up to you not any
> > organisation.
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> I wish it was up to me, the JC I go to insists that I do what they say, they
> wont allow me to train so I cant get the skills needed to earn a living wage
> nor will they provide the training that they say they are offering people.
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> > Answer me one question: when did you last work?
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> Recently I was working for charity, ordered to attend as per usual, failure
> to comply may result in loss of benefit, the usual threats. Not surprisingly
> employers were sceptical about this as a work history. Apparently anyone can
> work for charity.
> Great job though, you cant knock a system that gets people out to work for
> free, proleterian scum dont need money, flog the lot of them, bastards!- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Yes, great system that employs more people than the banking industry,
that gets more work done per pound spent than most companies (due to
volunteers) and mostly tries to tackle the problems that society
leaves behind.
Education for the poor, help for the needy, even help for the
unemployed - started by charities.
They can do what government departments and government employees
cannot. If both the funding and the workforce is there.

Every so often a government takes over the work - though its more
commonly the other way round.

Oh, and yes anyone can work for a charity. The trick is to stick it
out and learn some skills.
Pay isn't bad, working conditions can be odd and no job is guaranteed.

Martin  <><
date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:24:26 -0800 (PST)   author:   unknown

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