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date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:56:35 -0800 (PST),    group: uk.gov.social-security        back       
Re: Jobcentre Plus New Deal   
On 4 Dec, 22:38, "mart2...@hotmail.com"  wrote:
> On 4 Dec, 22:08, melanie.fullw...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
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> > On 4 Dec, 21:33, Robbie  wrote:
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> > > Niteawk wrote:
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> > > > "Robbie"  wrote in message
> > > >news:5rlp78F12bnvfU1@mid.individual.net...
> > > >> Niteawk wrote:
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> > > >>> "Robbie"  wrote in message
> > > >>>news:5rln4lF14uh77U1@mid.individual.net...
> > > >>>> Niteawk wrote:
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> > > >>>>> "Robbie"  wrote in message
> > > >>>>>news:5rlfmkF151r30U2@mid.individual.net...
> > > >>>>>> Niteawk wrote:
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> > > >>>>>>>  wrote in message >
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> > > >>>>>>>> Seems to be a fair bit of screw them on both sides.Plusa good
> > > >>>>>>>> chunk
> > > >>>>>>>> of trying to do the rigfht thing on each side too.
>
> > > >>>>>>> I dont think so, a very high percentage will be signing on for
> > > >>>>>>> the first
> > > >>>>>>> time ever.Plusa fair percentage will not be out of work for
> > > >>>>>>> long, you
> > > >>>>>>> cant say these people have a screw them attitude. Maybe you can,
> > > >>>>>>> this
> > > >>>>>>> proves what some of us have been saying, you tar everyone with
> > > >>>>>>> the same
> > > >>>>>>> brush.
>
> > > >>>>>> it does work both ways...
>
> > > >>>>> Oh no it does not, there is a big difference, you lot make the
> > > >>>>> rules and call the tune, like I said before, its down to you and
> > > >>>>> how you treat people.
>
> > > >>>> The staff don't make the rules. And as for "its down to you and how
> > > >>>> you treat people" - how do you want to be treated when you
> > > >>>> eventually find a job? I bet you wouldn't want to be treated like
> > > >>>> shite? Why should DWP staff be treated any different? Or are the DWP
> > > >>>> staff fair game?
> > > >>>> --
>
> > > >>> Fair game when they deliver bullshit, there are no problems if you
> > > >>> treat people fairly. As in life if you want respect you have to earn
> > > >>> it, muck people about and suffer the consequences. You need to stop
> > > >>> operating at idiot level, pretending to help people and then offering
> > > >>> them dead end low paid jobs, people are not the fools you think they
> > > >>> are.
>
> > > >> People turn up to do a job - whether it's working for the leccy board,
> > > >> the Co-Op or the DWP. Do you think the DWP staff go home and plan the
> > > >> next day? The staff work for the money - albeit it isn't much - then
> > > >> they leave the office and go home.
>
> > > >> The only people that care are the claimants!
>
> > > > Ahh Mr Bond, at last you are making sense, thats why we dont need your
> > > > ND muppets pretending to care. We can do it for ourselves so butt out
> > > > anytime soon and let us get on with sorting our own lives out. I would
> > > > be in work now if it wasnt for ND.
>
> > > What a load of bollocks! You'd be in work if you got your arse out of
> > > bed and made the effort. What you wrote above is hilarious. How come you
> > > are still on the dole while most of the population have managed to find
> > > work? And why is the centre of your life the DWP? You're one of these
> > > people who thinks he knows it all and does fuck all to better his life.
> > > And then whinges about it all when life gets hard.
>
> > > --
> > > Robbie- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > The DWP has become the centre of our lives because we have been forced
> > to live on DWP benefits for a period of time. Not by choice you
> > understand - I'm certainly NOT a lazy arse. I work very hard. The
> >Jobcentreinundate me with letters and phone calls - reminding me of
> > appointments, giving me unsuitable job details, threatening me with
> > benefit withdrawl if I don't comply! I feel cornered. They tell me I
> > must be prepared to travel for 90 minutes to work, which is a bit
> > silly, bearing in mind I use buses. I need to be closer to home as I
> > am a Carer. I've just been told today that they will stop my benefit
> > if I don't attend another useless 13 week course starting in January.
> > Lets hope I'm fixed up by then to save me the indignaty. I have a few
> > interviews - in my chosen field and local area I might add - so things
> > are looking up!- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> 90 minutes with buses, including change if necessary, is presumably
> the standard answer. Not necessarily for carers.
>
> Is there a local carers group in your area? The local council for
> voluntary service (CVS) in the phone book might know, or sometimes the
> local church of england diocese will know (Derbyshire one is pretty
> good if you are in their area).
> A carer group may have come across this situation before and be able
> to help with advice (including what to quote if necessary).
>
> Martin  <><- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Yeah there is.I think I might just do that actually. Thanks.
date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:56:35 -0800 (PST)   author:   unknown

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