On 4 Dec, 21:57, "Niteawk"  wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>> Seems to be a fair bit of screw them on both sides. Plus a good
> >>>>>>>>> chunk
> >>>>>>>>> of trying to do the rigfht thing on each side too.
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> >>>>>>>> I dont think so, a very high percentage will be signing on for the
> >>>>>>>> first
> >>>>>>>> time ever. Plus a fair percentage will not be out of work for long,
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> cant say these people have a screw them attitude. Maybe you can,
> >>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>> proves what some of us have been saying, you tar everyone with the
> >>>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>>> brush.
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> >>>>>>> it does work both ways...
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> >>>>>> Oh no it does not, there is a big difference, you lot make the rules
> >>>>>> and call the tune, like I said before, its down to you and how you
> >>>>>> treat people.
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> >>>>> The staff don't make the rules. And as for "its down to you and how
> >>>>> you treat people" - how do you want to be treated when you eventually
> >>>>> find a job? I bet you wouldn't want to be treated like shite? Why
> >>>>> should DWP staff be treated any different? Or are the DWP staff fair
> >>>>> game?
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> >>>> Fair game when they deliver bullshit, there are no problems if you
> >>>> treat people fairly. As in life if you want respect you have to earn
> >>>> it, muck people about and suffer the consequences. You need to stop
> >>>> operating at idiot level, pretending to help people and then offering
> >>>> them dead end low paid jobs, people are not the fools you think they
> >>>> are.
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> >>> People turn up to do a job - whether it's working for the leccy board,
> >>> the Co-Op or the DWP. Do you think the DWP staff go home and plan the
> >>> next day? The staff work for the money - albeit it isn't much - then
> >>> they leave the office and go home.
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> >>> The only people that care are the claimants!
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> >> Ahh Mr Bond, at last you are making sense, thats why we dont need your ND
> >> muppets pretending to care. We can do it for ourselves so butt out
> >> anytime soon and let us get on with sorting our own lives out. I would be
> >> in work now if it wasnt for ND.
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> > What a load of bollocks! You'd be in work if you got your arse out of bed
> > and made the effort. What you wrote above is hilarious. How come you are
> > still on the dole while most of the population have managed to find work?
> > And why is the centre of your life the DWP? You're one of these people who
> > thinks he knows it all and does fuck all to better his life. And then
> > whinges about it all when life gets hard.
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> I dont like swearing but seeing as you are angry I will let it go this time
> :) No its true, if it wasnt for ND I would be in work by now, instead I must
> occupy my time to meet their criteria in order to qualify for JSA. I can
> only do what they tell me to do, if they left me alone then I would have to
> find a job myself, this I could do because I always tailor my own CV's to
> the job I am after, thats point 1, I now have the same stupid fucking CV for
> all jobs. Point 2, I have been sent to work in the voluntary sector for 4
> days a week, how the fuck am I going to find work while I am working for
> charity. Point 3, the jobs they make me apply for every friday are not
> suitable, plus there is about 40 of us in the same room all going for the
> same jobs. They are not fucking helping everytime I attend my ND interviews,
> on at least 3 occasions I was supposed to attend a job interviews, guess
> what, they clashed with my fucking pointless ND appointments. Was I going to
> waste money I did not have phoning them at the risk of losing JSA for not
> attending, or did I attend ND? think on mush, you lot do more harm than
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Tailoring the CV to the job?
Ummm....is that noticeable to the employer? Or is it just minor
changes to highlight particular areas?
Minor tailoring takes just minutes, major tailoring of a document can
take days. But never heard of someone doing it to their Cv before.

The same CV for all jobs is what most people have. The information on
the CV tends to not change much except with time. After all, you don't
suddenly change educational qualifications years later, neither do
previous employers change much (but can be added to). So not exactly
at a disadvantage if using your standard CV.

4 days a week in the voluntary sector? Is that with Steps to Work?
Seriously, the voluntary sector (actually its the third sector) does
have plenty of jobs. Its more common to find people wanting to work in
the third sector being placed for 4 days a week. Not heard of people
being placed against their will yet (thats coming in a few years with
the government plans for 16 year olds).
And 4 days is usually 28 - 30 hours, leaving at least 138 hours to do
other things.

Timescale is such that there isn't usually enough time to get CRB
checks done first, so in many charities the work that can be done is
limited for volunteers there on short term.
We get them making drinks (we all do that anyway), playing pool with
clients, helping run activities (but not on their own) or helping sort
clothing and food. Hardly gripping stuff, but hardly a risk to clients
either.

Martin  <><