On 4 Dec, 19:45, melanie.fullw...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> On 4 Dec, 18:57, "Niteawk"  wrote:
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> > "Robbie"  wrote in message
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> > > Niteawk wrote:
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> > >> "Robbie"  wrote in message
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> > >>> I realise what you mean - most people I saw were polite but not all
> > >>> staff are bad though. You have to admit that there is a "us versus them"
> > >>> mentality though - and that works both ways, sadly.
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> > >> The us v them mentality is created by the DWP, even the clowns that run
> > >>newdealcourses have the same developed the same attitude from dealing
> > >> with the JC on a daily basis. The unemployed do not hold meetings every
> > >> other day to to whip up hatred against JC/ND staff, most of them do not
> > >> know each other, OTOH thats exactly what the JC/ND staff do, hold
> > >> meetings to express their contempt for the unemployed.
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> > > How do you know that staff hold these meeting (which they don't) and if
> > > they did what it is they talk about? I can tell you the staff have more
> > > interesting things to talk about - like paying the rent or the mortgage or
> > > where they will go after work or how their relationship is going. I can
> > > assure you the staff don't go into work thinking "how can I shaft an
> > > unemployed person today". After all, most of the staff were unemployed at
> > > one time.
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> > Fucking hell, shows what you know. I know they hold meetings at least 3
> > times a week at my JC because they dont open until 9.30 some mornings. I
> > have also had this confirmed by my ND adviser who is fond of making
> > appointments for me anywhere in between opening and closing time.
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> > >> At the end of the day you are dealing with individuals who have todeal
> > >> with office staff that are all of the same mind set which is screw them.
> > >> So how the hell can you say it works both ways?
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> > > You missed the point I was making. Which was, some of the staff have the
> > > "us versus them" mentality. Which is wrong, of course. But they aren't
> > > ogres - as much as you would love to see them as being like that. They
> > > have a wife and kids too.
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> > Ogres? WTF! Speaking for myself and through personal experience, I have
> > found some of them are positively evil and will go out of their way to make
> > life as difficult as possible for you. Which is crazy when you consider that
> > these people were total strangers to me in the beginning and left me
> > wondering why they would try to fuck me up when I dont even know them
> > personally. I wish they would see that I am just a number and move on and
> > try to remember its not their money, they pretend that they are concerned
> > that I am out of work when the truth is they really dont give a fuck, so why
> > the pretence. Then they offer me a minimum wage temp vacancy which I am
> > forced to apply for. I dont need this bullshit from two faced cunts like
> > them. Lets have the training you bastards claim to offer so I can get a real
> > job if you are really that concerned about helping me, training as
> > advertised on direct.gov.uk Oh no we cant do that, well then dont tell
> > people like me there are opportunities like this available, fuck off and
> > leave me alone until you are ready to deliver as promised. Rant mode off ;)
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> > OK I will grant you that there are some that are not all bad and 1 or 2 of
> > them I would describe as nice, but the rest of them are a total pain, the
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> Couldn't have put it better my self - though might have omitted the
> swearing. I'll let you off - coz you're angry! I never want to go
> through this again if I can help it. I'm fed up. They have such low
> regard for you as well. Like you mentioned; suggesting unskilled work.
> I know someone has to do it but I've trained sooooo hard for a
> specific career. I feel totally insulted when they suggest such jobs.
> I want to do something worthwhile and I'm trying really hard. I
> haven't got words to express how annoyed I am after coming back from
> the Jobcentre today, and I'm never rude back either. I feel like they
> hate me. If they read this forum they'll hate us all!- Hide quoted text -
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Have you thought that their work is also unskilled work.......?

Martin  <><